Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/12/2014, 1:15 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: That said, right-clicking on an existing and active breakpoint *does* put up the expected popup, the one that gives you debugging options. So I don't see any problems here. I take that back, I didn't test far enough. The popup appears and the dialo

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/2014, 11:46 PM, Terry Judd wrote: For greater control over app versions I put all the ones I use in my Dock and launch them explicitly from there. I¹m sure you¹re not alone there. I have six versions of LC in my dock that I use for different projects and for testing. I have many more t

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/2014, 7:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The second one ('98) was one that could benefit from others here who've used the debugger more than I have (Jacque, that means you ). I'm not sure if it's a bug or merely needs more explanation in the docs. For reference: http://quality.runrev.com/

Re: New SQLite binary option

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Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 12/11/14 07:46, Terry Judd wrote: For greater control over app versions I put all the ones I use in my Dock and launch them explicitly from there. I¹m sure you¹re not alone there. I have six versions of LC in my dock that I use for different projects and for testing. I have many more than tha

Re: hair-pulling frustration

>For greater control over app versions I put all the ones I use in my >Dock and launch them explicitly from there. I¹m sure you¹re not alone there. I have six versions of LC in my dock that I use for different projects and for testing. I have many more than that in my Applications folder. Terry..

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Dr. Hawkins wrote: To start with, Peter Hayworth filed *Bug 10511* in 2006 . . . but wee discuss this every three or fourt months on this list. I recall only vague descriptions with no clear outcome, and that amazingly long bug report evidenc

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Dr. Hawkins wrote: Now, to make matters worse, it appears that I've been using 7.0.0, not 7.0.1-RC-1 for an unknown period of time--it has managed to set itself as the default version more than once on this machine. If that's on a Mac, I don't believe there's anything a developer can do - tha

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> The first one ('97) was especially interesting because in all the years >>> I'd been using LC I'd never used that particular feature. The >>> description >>

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > OK, I'll try with and without multiple statements in both versions. > Now, to make matters worse, it appears that I've been using 7.0.0, not 7.0.1-RC-1 for an unknown period of time--it has managed to set itself as the default version more

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The first one ('97) was especially interesting because in all the years I'd been using LC I'd never used that particular feature. The description of that feature on p68 of the User Guide does seem to match your expectat

LiveCode vector screenshots

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Re: New SQLite binary option

By way of an update on this, the length of the data I supply to the UPDATE statement is around 2.5 million characters. When I read it back in again, it's 244 characters. Obviously there's some severe truncation going on! Question is - is it LC or SQLite? Everything I read on the web says that S

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Mark Talluto wrote: Thanks for taking this on. These are stopping us from using 7 either in shipping applications and in some cases development: Move command renders graphics improperly when screen has been recently locked http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13961 Player object shoul

Re: hair-pulling frustration

OK, I'll try with and without multiple statements in both versions. I do want to double check that you're not trying to access an SQLite database over a network because you WILL have major problems if you are :-) Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > On 12/11/2014 11:00 am, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: > > >LiveCode's developer previews simply execue (nightly snapshot that > >executed), the RC are alpha quality, the 5.5 series are late beta, and the > >6.x and 7.x releases are early beta. > > I th

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Any other specific issues you feel are show-stoppers may well be worth >>> looking into, and I'd be happy to help if I can. But to do that I'd need >>> t

New SQLite binary option

Has anyone used the new "binary" parameter to revOpenDatabase when opening an sqlite database? It's supposed to store binary data into BLOB columns unchanged - apparently Livecode used to store BLOB's in a proprietary format. Here's what I'm doing: revOpendatabase("sqlite",,"binary") database

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 12/11/2014 11:00 am, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: >LiveCode's developer previews simply execue (nightly snapshot that >executed), the RC are alpha quality, the 5.5 series are late beta, and the >6.x and 7.x releases are early beta. I think that¹s a bit harsh. There are problems with every version but

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Nov 11, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > There was a recent comment about shadowed name warnings in the Facebook group > recently, but that seemed related to turning on the feature to warn about > those (Prefs -> Script Editor -> Strict Compilation Mode). The person who > noted th

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Nov 11, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Any other specific issues you feel are show-stoppers may well be worth > looking into, and I'd be happy to help if I can. But to do that I'd need to > know what they are. Hi Richard, Thanks for taking this on. These are stopping us from u

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Any other specific issues you feel are show-stoppers may well be worth looking into, and I'd be happy to help if I can. But to do that I'd need to know what they are. That the IDE doesn't work? I'll run a search

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Hi Richard, on Tue, 11 Nov 2014 Richard Gaskin wrote: [snip] > On the other issues, can you share the > bug report numbers so we can follow them? Does exist an automatic way to post every new bug report in this mail list? Could bugzilla do this? In this way, every bug will be noticed and revie

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Folks: Just to chime in on this. I’ve been using version 7.0 for a couple of months. No problems. I’m not using many of the new features like unicode, but have found the IDE working fine for my purposes, so far. The slowdown in some operations has affected me, though. Picking out a byte from a l

LiveCode Course on Udemy

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Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Any other specific issues you feel are show-stoppers may well be worth > looking into, and I'd be happy to help if I can. But to do that I'd need > to know what they are. > That the IDE doesn't work? I filed those bugs, but can anyone re

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'd like to raise these concerns with Ben and Kevin at my next meeting. It would be very helpful if you could point me to the bug reports that describe these issues. That's the problem. These are at a level that never

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Richmond wrote: > Obviously Dr Hawkins is not over-enamoured of the Open Source theory: > LiveCode is paid for in a different way [the "I'll scratch your back if > you'll scratch mine" way] than the 'standard' commercial way [I pay you, > and you do ALL the work]

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ourselves to test our >> work with pre-release versions. >> >> >> Two problems, though: >> 1) One can *

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > I rarely, if ever, try to execute multiple SQL statements in one > revDatabasexxx so haven't seen that particular problem. Could you give an > example? I'd like to check it out as I don't want to get hit by the same > bug. > I routinely exe

Re: 7.0.1-RC1 selectively not obeying "open card in script?

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I just ran into this. If a variable contains “card foo” then the command > open card foo resolves to open card card foo. You can see the problem. > There is no card named card foo. Just foo. > > Is this the problem you are seeing? > Yes, it i

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Richmond wrote: Obviously Dr Hawkins is not over-enamoured of the Open Source theory: LiveCode is paid for in a different way [the "I'll scratch your back if you'll scratch mine" way] than the 'standard' commercial way [I pay you, and you do ALL the work]. I think you and I may be a rare breed

Re: hair-pulling frustration

The student example Your comment is interesting BUT; Instructors need to test the curricula before, during and after the instruction. The question is, is it the instruction, the testing or the student having the problem. It all comes back to the testing. The teacher who does not test the instruc

Re: 7.0.1-RC1 selectively not obeying "open card in script?

I just ran into this. If a variable contains “card foo” then the command open card foo resolves to open card card foo. You can see the problem. There is no card named card foo. Just foo. Is this the problem you are seeing? Bob S > On Nov 8, 2014, at 13:29 , Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > On Wed,

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/2014, 3:23 PM, Richmond wrote: Several times I have stated that in my opinion RunRev are being swept along into a sort of feature bloat which prevents them from sorting out little 'niggles' in existing features. I se no reason to change that opinion. Suppose while teaching English, you

Re: hair-pulling frustration

J. Landman Gay wrote: What usually stops me is the need to create a separate, stripped-down stack to demonstrate a more complicated bug. I completely understand the need for this, especially in my case where the original stack is huge and complex, and I wouldn't expect RR to plow through all tha

Re: R: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/14 23:34, Richard Gaskin wrote: Being in touch with them fairly regularly, I can say with confidence that it's not like they're all sitting at the beach drinking Mai Tais. Heck, it's Edinburgh - is it even sunny enough to go to the beach? :) While I know they are not at the be

R: hair-pulling frustration

Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ourselves to test our work with pre-release versions. Two problems, though: 1) One can *either* stay with 5.5, *or* use any of the new features. Without maintaining

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/2014, 3:16 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So while we can't be expected to test everything, if we only test our own apps with new builds that's usually all we need for our own work. Collectively, if we call just ensured that new features get implemented in ways we need, we'll all have what we

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/14 23:16, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: On 11/11/14 21:55, Richard Gaskin wrote: I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ourselves to test our work with pre-release versions. That is, of course, very true. Another idea that might not be bad, is to slow down the r

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/14 22:59, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I really can't give up any significant portion of my coding time to do livecode's work for them; these are things that are so basic that they never should have seen a release to the public. I'm afraid, Richard Gaskin et al, the above is going to be a fa

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Richmond wrote: On 11/11/14 21:55, Richard Gaskin wrote: I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ourselves to test our work with pre-release versions. That is, of course, very true. Another idea that might not be bad, is to slow down the releases so there is more time for testing.

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > The SQLite issue may be more related to the new SQLite code base than with > LiveCode. I can't say specifically - Mr. Haworth, what do you find with > that? Just asked for an example and will check it out. Pete lcSQL Software

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > In addition to the others I've mentioned here an in other recent posts, the > recompile of sqlite is not quite compatible with the old, and behaves > differently. For example, a semicolon at the end of an entry without > begin/end transactio

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: > >> OK, I'll stop venting, but the amount of time I'm losing to bugs that >> never >> should have seen a public preview is getting increasingly frustrating. >> > > I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ours

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Hi Dr. Hawkins, The whole computer industry is changing too rapidly now. Their is no such thing as “stable” as a result. What everyone wants is a “stable” OS, a “stable” language, a “stable” database, and stable hardware platforms to go with it all. If we had all of that, we’d already have a s

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/14 21:55, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dr. Hawkins wrote: OK, I'll stop venting, but the amount of time I'm losing to bugs that never should have seen a public preview is getting increasingly frustrating. I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ourselves to test our work with pr

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Dr. Hawkins wrote: OK, I'll stop venting, but the amount of time I'm losing to bugs that never should have seen a public preview is getting increasingly frustrating. I agree, which is why it benefits no one more than ourselves to test our work with pre-release versions. The SQLite issue may

Re: Livecode Server on Dreamhost fails in Ubuntu upgrade

Warren Samples wrote: On 11/11/2014 12:42 PM, Phil Davis wrote: One thing I noticed is that script execution speed seems to have gotten dreadfully slow in 64-bit 7.0 - roughly 6x slower. I have a simple script that repeats 5000 times, adding to a counter and populating and sorting a list with

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/11/14 21:25, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I can't help but wonder what it would take to get runrev to follow normal practice and actually get something to alpha level before calling it a "developer preview", beta by a "release candidate" (ok, that still wouldn't be normal), and working rather than ea

hair-pulling frustration

I can't help but wonder what it would take to get runrev to follow normal practice and actually get something to alpha level before calling it a "developer preview", beta by a "release candidate" (ok, that still wouldn't be normal), and working rather than early beta before release. If I sold some

Re: Livecode Server on Dreamhost fails in Ubuntu upgrade

On 11/11/2014 12:42 PM, Phil Davis wrote: One thing I noticed is that script execution speed seems to have gotten dreadfully slow in 64-bit 7.0 - roughly 6x slower. I have a simple script that repeats 5000 times, adding to a counter and populating and sorting a list with seven items. It takes

replacing screen shot in iTunes connect

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Re: test

Received. On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > No posts here since last night; unusual, so just making sure the system > isn't down. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > _

Re: Livecode Server on Dreamhost fails in Ubuntu upgrade

One thing I noticed is that script execution speed seems to have gotten dreadfully slow in 64-bit 7.0 - roughly 6x slower. I ran "door-to-door" timings from a desktop stack against the same script on two different servers, the DH server running 7.0.0 and the on-rev server running 6.1.0. While o

speed and shortening the long id

It is my understanding that reference to id is faster than name. However, if i get the long id of something, I can get field id 1 of group id 2 of group id 3 of card id 4 of stack "theSubStack" of stack "/some/really/long/filename" If I take word 1 to 3 of theLongId && word -6 to -4 of theLo

test

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Re: BBEdit Language Module for LiveCode

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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

Question 1: The & only works for Windows, where menus can be triggered with the keyboard. The character after the & will be the one to trigger, and it'll be shown underlined. You can choose any char in a word, it doesn't need to be the first one, and the premade ones are chosen as per Windows hu

Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

I'm using LC 7.0.1. Looking at both the LC User Guide and the Dictionary, I find that I don’t exactly understand the way you put keyboard shortcuts into menus and get them to activate, especially on Windows. I note for example: 1. The ‘&’ character is always present in a menu item which is also

Re: Can I produce a Google map showing SEVERAL address?

Hi Jim, What platform are you developing for? I didn’t find the old one that I used to use, but a quick internet search showed: http://www.click2map.com/ I’m sure there are others which might even be better. If you need to manipulate things from within LiveCode the

Re: Can I produce a Google map showing SEVERAL address?

Thanks Rick. Do you find one that you could launch from within LiveCode? I would like to incorporate the search in a LiveCode app. Jim > From: Rick Harrison > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Can I produce a Google map showing SEVERAL address? > Message-ID: <48fe7ced-95bc-49dd-bb72-8ca1

Re: which shared hosting providers offer LiveCode pre-installed?

Hi all (and thanks Ethan for the offer) I actually have a lifetime deal with on-rev and was asking so that I can make suggestions to clients... Someone on this list (or forum?) mentioned hostm.com a few days ago and I checked them out and what they offer looks pretty good. I emailed them asking w