Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread Fraser Gordon via use-livecode
On 12/12/2017 17:45, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > If you set tab stops for a field, Is there a way to set the alignment for one > stop/column? > e.g. have all the numbers in the final column on the right align vertically > to the decimal point or left?? Yup - https://livec

Re: fontNames

2017-02-03 Thread Fraser Gordon via use-livecode
On 2017-02-03 21:03, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote: I'm currently fiddling around with fonts. I see that the list returned by 'the fontNames' contains some 'placeholder' values, namely these: (Default) (Menu) (Message) (Styled Text) (System) (Text) (Tooltip) Is there

Re: Xcode 8 / iOS 10 support coming in 8.1.1

2016-09-08 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 08/09/2016 17:37, Roger Eller wrote: > What I meant to ask is, which specific NEW Android 7.0 features > aresupported in LC? Where is the latest list of mobile features that > wouldshow LiveCodes commitment for keeping parity between supported > mobileplatforms? > ~Roger The reason more work see

Re: Backwards compatibility or sanity? help

2016-08-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/08/2016 15:26, hh wrote: > Ali, > probably it's about time that you give at RTL-lesson/blog/tutorial? > Would be very appreciated. > >> Ali wrote: >> the number of items in 'ab' is not an invariant of its read order, >> unless you reverse the characters in the delimiter too. >> When the item

Re: using windows playback via livecode 8

2016-08-17 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 16 Aug 2016, at 21:09, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Yesterday I got a tech support question from a Surface Pro 3 user. Our LC > standalone (built in LC 7.1.4) wouldn't even launch. I suspect it's because > the Surface is running in 64-bit. The Windows build of LiveCode is 32-bit but that doesn’

Re: SSL Help

2016-08-15 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 15/08/16 18:32, Dan Friedman wrote: Lastly, it works fine in LC 8 (but for a verity of reasons, I can't use LC 8) What is it that is causing you problems in LiveCode 8? Other than that, why not use a newer version of LiveCode 7? 7.0.1 is nearly 2 years old and there have been a huge numbe

Re: No data in application browser in 8.0.2

2016-08-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12/08/2016 17:18, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > Yes, but it doesn't work at the moment. > > It opens, and displays nothing. > > And I'll point out again, until 8 works properly, 7 shouldn't be EOL . . . If there isn't a bug in the bug database, then we don't know about it, which means that it can't be f

Re: Probs related to the LC 8 dictionary on 64 bit Linux

2016-06-15 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 15/06/16 22:12, Richmond wrote: Sorry; that title is a bit of a mouthful. Ideally (there's another semantically dubious word) the dictionary should be properly accessible in Livecode 8.x on Linux 64 bit; but it's not, and will probably take a while to sort that out. 3 days ago my operatin

Re: LC 8 Random crash with QT set the filename of player on OS X

2016-06-06 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 6 Jun 2016, at 10:08, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > I filed a bug report, but I could reproduce it only in my complex live stack > and not in a test stack with a handy recipe. > It is LC 8.0 and yes it is QT. I know about all the QT hassles and have > waited for years for a solution from Edinb

Re: Cubist's first bug report

2016-06-05 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 05/06/16 23:06, Jerry Jensen wrote: I just spent a few minutes in the 8.0.1 dictionary and did not find it. That thing is useless! Maybe its because I’m new to 8, but where is “any" documented? How in the world does one find it? .Jerry https://livecode.com/resources/api/#livecode_script/an

Re: OT Livecode and Intego Virus Barrier

2016-05-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 27/05/16 02:39, Lyn Teyla wrote: 2. The method used by LiveCode to write to LiveCodeToolsLog.txt (presumably multiple times) might not be ideal. Could be a "write to file" vs "put into url" issue. Better yet, perhaps the writing to this log file should not be performed by default, unless a

Re: Unicode display engine.

2016-05-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/05/16 09:05, RM wrote: I don't know how the Unicode display engine in Livecode 7.0 and upwards works. LiveCode doesn't include a Unicode display engine - it takes the steam of characters, breaks it down into words and then asks the operating system's display engine to render those words

Re: IPv6 for iOS??

2016-05-09 Thread Fraser Gordon
Now that the weekend is over, I’ve had a chance to look at IPv6 support for iOS. The good news is that if you are using the URL syntax to access HTTP or HTTPS URLs, IPv6 support already exists. For example, see the screenshot here: http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/ios_ipv6.png (the http://ip

Re: Death of the Application Browser

2015-11-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26/11/15 20:24, Richmond wrote: Aah, so the team isn't going to bother to listen to the Community because it wants to do other things; so it is chucking the Application Browser out to grass. I'm not sure I follow. The application browser isn't going anywhere. If it works for you already, wh

Re: Further regression of the Pirate Code Dots

2015-10-03 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 03/10/15 17:52, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I have always had to force an answer, and then a breakpoint, if I wanted execution to break on startup. Unacceptable, a sloppy and longstanding bug on live code's part, but I learned to live with it. I have some editor windows that are opened during program

Re: non-breaking spaces in fields?

2015-09-25 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 25 Sep 2015, at 08:02, Kay C Lan wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Ralph DiMola > wrote: > >> The LC field object has always(since LC 5 anyway) respected non-breaking >> spaces (ascii 160). > > > I'm not seeing that on OS X 10.9.5 and LC 7.1rc2 > > With numToChar(160) I get a vis

Re: HTML5 "get URL"

2015-09-03 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 3 Sep 2015, at 10:02, Rolf Kocherhans wrote: > I am experimenting with the „get URL“ command on a HTML5 WebApp. > > I can’t get it to work at all :-( > > The get URL command can be used in 3 ways with file - ftp or > http urls, I guess the HTML5 get URL command is not used > for ftp or http

Re: HTML5 test

2015-09-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Sep 2015, at 07:18, Warren Samples wrote: > On 09/01/2015 11:36 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: >> On Ubuntu Linux, works fine Firefox >> >> Chrome and Opera shows this message: >> Exception thrown, see JavaScript console > > > It works here in Opera 31.0 and Chrome 44.0 (also works in Chrom

Re: How saucy is Open Source

2015-09-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Sep 2015, at 10:03, Richmond wrote: > Would it be permissible to sell a book with a CD strapped to its back > containing > community versions of LiveCode? Yes, that is allowed. As the Community engine is GPL’ed, you’d have to include an offer to supply the source code for the engine, but

Re: HTML5 test

2015-09-01 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 1 Sep 2015, at 15:23, Colin Holgate wrote: > Same color error in Safari, Chrome, Firefox on Mac, Chrome and Firefox under > Windows 10, and Safari on iPad. Edge and IE 11 give Javascript errors when > trying to load the page. Thanks for the info. Consistently-wrong beats randomly-wrong any

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-09-01 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 1 Sep 2015, at 15:14, Rolf Kocherhans wrote: > Does “get URL“ work from everywhere or only on a Server when I am > hosting the LCWebApp ? > >> Am 31.08.2015 um 18:55 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com: >> >> - no networking except ?get url? > > I am asking this because I could n

Re: HTML5 test

2015-09-01 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 1 Sep 2015, at 14:44, BNig wrote: > Colin Holgate-3 wrote >> Run the stack in LiveCode, do the colors look exactly the same as when you >> look at the HTML5 one in Safari? >> >> It could be that the color errors only affect bitmaps. > > I ran the stack and the browser version of the stack s

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 31/08/2015 16:57, Colin Holgate wrote: > Did you know that button is disabled? It is disabled by design in commercial engines as we don't have everything ready for commercial deployment yet - for now, only Community edition will deploy to HTML5. The stack file is unprotected and easily download

Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP4. Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks before testing them. This release contains an alpha release of HTML5 standalone deployment*. (*and also a fix for iOS device deployment. A

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26 Aug 2015, at 15:57, Paul Richards wrote: > Downloads for this version have gone live.. > > I'm sure LC will follow up with an official announcement and changelog shortly > > Paul :) Apparently, I don’t type the release email quickly enough ;) Fraser _

Release: LiveCode 8.0 DP 3

2015-08-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 3. Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks before testing them. ***Known Issues***: - iOS device builds are currently broken. However it is still possible to test iOS apps in th

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-18 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 18 Aug 2015, at 13:33, Richmond wrote: > > If Kevin made me IDE Czar […] I, for one, welcome our new IDE overlord ;) Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage you

Re: RELEASE: 7.1.0-RC-1

2015-08-14 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear List Members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.1.0 RC 1. *Warning, this is a development release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* New Features and changes: - Mobile s

Re: Coding in Livecode in the browser (with Emscripten)

2015-07-17 Thread Fraser Gordon
That’s exactly what we’re doing — the LiveCode engine is compiled into JavaScript using Emscripten. Like those other languages, we’re not converting LiveCode Script to JavaScript directly; it is the engine that runs those languages that has been compiled to JavaScript. Fraser On 17 Jul 2015,

Release 6.7.5 RC 2 / 7.0.5 RC 2

2015-05-04 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear List Members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.5 RC 2 and 7.0.5 RC 2. This release is a maintenance release which contains bug fixes for both versions. The list of bugs fixed can be found in the Release Notes. *Getting the Release* To get the release please select "ch

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: > Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the > moment? Just for you Richmond: http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86 The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a b

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:53, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: > Fraser, > > It was my „My livecode“ folder, i think the plugins. I renamed it and i was > able to successfully start LC 8. Thanks for tracking that down. We’ll investigate why that might be happening. Could you either submit a bugzil

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: > Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the > moment? If you’re able to build LiveCode for Linux normally, it should work. You might have to do an initial step of make bootstrap before “make all” to ensure that th

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
Hi Matthias, On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: > Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes > immediately after showing the LC ide. > > Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences? > > Matthias What platform are you running on? Does i

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:30, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Looks like there’s no commercial edition available. Is this community-only > for now? For the initial DP releases, yes. There are a few more things to get sorted out with regards to commercial widgets before providing commercial builds. As R

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:23, Richmond wrote: > On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote: >> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: >> >>> Sorry, but where is the download location? >> My bad. >> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ >> >

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:25, Colin Holgate wrote: > i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the two > run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls. > Hi Colin, We’ve noticed that issue a couple of times but haven’t been able to track down the cause yet. It onl

Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: > Sorry, but where is the download location? My bad. http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing

Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear list members, *** Warning: this is an alpha release *** We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 1. This release brings a number of new features to the LiveCode platform: - A new language (LiveCode Builder) for extending LiveCode with new widgets and engine-level commands

Re: 64-bit

2015-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2015, at 13:41, Alain Vezina wrote: > > If I am right, LC 7.0.3 it’s a 64-bit standalone maker. > Does it contain also a 32-bit? If not, can we run a 64-bit app on an iPad of > first generation (iOS 5.1.1) ? The standalones produced for iOS should have both 32-bit and 64-bit “slices

Re: LiveCode 7.0.3: a new meme

2015-02-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 27 Feb 2015, at 16:48, Klaus major-k wrote: > >> Am 27.02.2015 um 17:21 schrieb BNig : >> >> it works beautifully and is called: >> from the dictionary 7.x.x >> tabAlign > > ah, OK, thanks, looks like this is missing in the 6.7.3 dictionary!? :-( > Is it also missing in that engine? The f

Re: Garbage Collection

2015-02-22 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 22/02/2015 11:48, Terence Heaford wrote: > How does this impact LiveCode? > > http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/15/02/20/apple-says-mac-app-makers-must-transition-to-arc-memory-management-by-may > >

Re: HTML muddle

2015-02-18 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 18 Feb 2015, at 18:08, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Know the engine. > Trust the engine. > Use the engine. The engine is your friend. All hail the mighty engine. I think Nietzsche may have been right… when you gaze too long into the engine, the engine also gazes into you. Fraser

Re: 32 and 64 bit in LiveCode

2015-01-28 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 28 Jan 2015, at 15:24, Alain Vezina wrote: > I am wondering when LiveCode will include the 64-bit support for iOS. 64-bit/32-bit universal iOS 8.1 engines have been added in 6.7.2 and 7.0.2 (both are currently at the RC stage). Regards, Fraser ___

Re: Unicode

2015-01-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26 Jan 2015, at 02:15, Peter Haworth wrote: > Thanks Peter. If that's the case, I'm not seeing much in the way of a > coding advantage over pre 7.0. Sounds like using textEncode/textDecode > instaed of uniencode/unidecode? Assuming you have UTF-8 encoded data from a source outside LiveCode

7.0.1 Windows Community Installer

2015-01-05 Thread Fraser Gordon
The 7.0.1 Community installer for Windows has now been re-uploaded. Looks like something went wrong during the original upload process. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, uns

Re: Standalone on Raspberry Pi

2015-01-04 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 03/01/2015 23:46, Peter W A Wood wrote: > Hi Kenji > > As I understand the Linux option in the Standalone Settings creates a > standalone for an Intel-based computer. At the moment, there isn’t an option > to create a standalone for an ARM-based computer. What version and edition are you usi

Re: 64 bit Linux standalones?

2014-11-14 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 14 Nov 2014, at 16:48, Richmond wrote: > As, currently, I am running 32 bit Linux I have what may seem a slightly > goofy question: > > Does the standalone builder in the 64 bit version of LiveCode 7 offer the > choice of building > standalones for 64-bit and/or 32-bit distros? It should.

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 30 Oct 2014, at 18:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > 2. StyledText array > Pages 16-18 of the v5.5.4 Release Notes: > > > Anyone here use this? Is it faster than doing equivalent operations on > htmlText? While the style

Re: RELEASE 6.7 RC3

2014-10-17 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 17/10/2014 19:36, Richmond wrote: > On 17/10/14 19:45, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: > > Super! > > Does this: >> - OS 10.5 (Leopard) Support >> > Mean Mac OS 10.5 PPC and INTEL, or only INTEL? > > This is not documented in the Release notes. Unfortunately, it looks like the most important word

Re: [BUG][SHELL] Could Others Please Test This OS X/Linux

2014-10-01 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 1 Oct 2014, at 04:17, Kay C Lan wrote: > Terminal enter the following: > > find $PWD > > The output will be on each line the full path of either a Folder or a file. > > I just copied and pasted the output into a Text editor which then > reports the number of lines - in my case it's 527579

Re: getting a section cross-platform without utf

2014-09-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26/09/2014 21:32, Richmond wrote: > On 26/09/14 23:20, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Richmond >> wrote: >> >>> Put numToChar(167) >>> >> I just tried that on a mac. I think what it gave me was a german esset, >> the double s that looks like a beta . . . >> >> > > That

Re: 6.6.2 or 6.6.3???

2014-09-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26/09/2014 19:24, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: > Hi Bob, > I had the exact same experience that you did. > I just assumed it was a display bug with LC and ignored it. When I got > the alert about 6.6.3, I just chose "Skip this version." > Maybe you or someone will report it as a bug. > Lar

RELEASE: LiveCode 7.0 RC 2

2014-09-22 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 RC 2. * Warning, this is a pre-release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* *Release Focus* 61 bug fixes *Important Changes* - We’v

Re: large arrays

2014-09-19 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 19 Sep 2014, at 12:46, wrote: > Hello, > > I made a program some years ago with Rev studio 2.9 that had some very large > arrays in it. No problem. > > Then I got Rev 3.5 and it choked on the large arrays - took forever to load > and display in Variables. > > Several years ago, I spoke

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 RC 2

2014-09-18 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 18 Sep 2014, at 16:14, Roger Eller wrote: > So, what is the plan to get multi-core rendering working on Windows? > The multimedia framework that we use on Windows in not thread safe. We're currently looking at various options for how to ensure multiple threads do not try to interact with

RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 RC 2

2014-09-18 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7 RC 2. Release Focus 33 bug fixes Known issues Multicore rendering disabled in Windows due to multimedia not being thread-safe Release contents The number of bugs fixed is so large that it no longer makes sense to include

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6.3

2014-09-11 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 11 Sep 2014, at 16:05, "Ralph DiMola" wrote: > Fraser, > > Windows version of 6.6.3 shows 6.6.2 in the title and the About shows as > 6.6.2 Build 4012(same as 6.6.2). I know that the update did not affect the > Windows build. Just an FYI. > > Thanks again for the prompt fix for iOS builds!!

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6.3

2014-09-11 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 11 Sep 2014, at 14:21, Richmond wrote: > The documentation for 6.6.3 states that it will work > on Mac OS 10.5.8 PPC: but when I open the DMG file > I am presented with an INTEL-only installer. > > Please, either: > > Rectify this, Re-built the installers again and re-uploaded. There's no

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6.3

2014-09-11 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 11/09/2014 11:04 am, "Alex Shaw" wrote: > Hi > > Works but I still had to apply the manual patch below to sign the app > before submission. > > http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21333&p=109203&hilit=profil > e#p109200 I've uploaded new installers for OSX Community and Commerci

Re: Raspberry Pi Standalone

2014-09-09 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 9 Sep 2014, at 04:40, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote: > I just produced my first RPi standalone using the new Linux ARMv6-HF option > found in 7.0 RC1. This is going to change everything. I forgot to mention something during my conference talk: you can only build for RPi from the

Re: Unicode: baby steps

2014-08-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 27/08/2014 18:17, Graham Samuel wrote: > Having forgotten all I ever knew about Unicode (it wasn't much), I am trying > to understand Unicode in LC, and although I have heard about "just works" I > am not sure how to proceed. For example, the code for pi (Greek letter, lower > case) is appare

RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP8

2014-08-08 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7 DP8. Release Focus 28 bug fixes Known issues The multicore rending architecture is causing some subtle rendering glitches on retina Macs Multicore rendering disabled in Windows due to multimedia not being thread-safe Relea

LiveCode 7.0 DP9

2014-08-08 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 DP9. * Warning, this is a pre-release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* Release Focus Bug fixes 26 in 7.0 related engine changes

RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP6

2014-05-29 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0 DP6. *Warning, this is a pre-release with new features which have the potential to cause issues. Please ensure you backup your stacks before testing this release.* Important Changes - The file format has changed for this

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-28 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 28 May 2014, at 15:01, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > The "You Only" requirement when installing under a non-admin account seems an > unnecessary drag. When I install any .deb file I'm prompted to enter an > admin password, but the LC installer only prompts for the current account and > requir

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26 May 2014, at 18:12, Mark Wieder wrote: > Fraser- > > Monday, May 26, 2014, 3:55:29 AM, you wrote: > >> DP4 and DP5 have been officially released. > > Is that you speaking in an official capacity or just noting the fact? Both DP4 and DP5 were released on Friday the 23rd of May. DP4 was

LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
Hi all, There have been a number of problems reported with the Linux builds of LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5. As far as I've been able to tell, these were due to a build problem that resulted in DP4 being re-packaged as DP5. I've now re-built and re-uploaded the Linux installers for DP5 to the downloads

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26/05/2014 08:27, Colin Holgate wrote: > During Kevin's thing he did tell us all to go try the new build that had just > been posted. I'm guessing that was dp4. If you do a check for updates now, or > even just open LiveCode, you’ll see you can install dp5. DP4 and DP5 have been officially re

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 25/05/2014 16:29, Richmond wrote: > Problems: > 1. The menubar (Linux) states it it dp 4. Mea cupla! As we spent Friday working on bugfixes for the Global Jam, we wanted to get out a new release of 7 as soon as possible as quite a few bugs were resolved. Unfortunately, coming at the end of the

Re: Nice news for builders of financial apps

2014-05-19 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 19 May 2014, at 15:25, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Check this out - looks like independent column alignment via a tabAlign > property is coming in v7: > I wondered when somebody would notice! It turned out that something similar was required to s

Re: Unicode Really Does Just Work in LiveCode

2014-05-15 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 15 May 2014, at 07:01, Peter W A Wood wrote: > I've come up with a set of tests to use to compare different languages > Unicode capabilities. I call them the "Unicode Out Of The Box Tests". At the > moment Apple's Cocoa & Objective-C is the top scorer with 15 out of 15. > Livecode scores 1

Re: Set Language for String Processing?

2014-05-06 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 6 May 2014, at 12:26, Peter W A Wood wrote: > > PS I was truly impressed to find that comparing pre-composed and decomposed > characters worked without the need for the strings to be normalised. For > example, this test passes: > > startTest "Unicode1" > put numToCodepoint(0xE

Re: Set Language for String Processing?

2014-05-06 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 6 May 2014, at 08:45, Peter W A Wood wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible (and how) to set the language when > processing a string to get the correct capitalisation? > > I am trying to see how LiveCode handles upper and lower case shifting in > situations like this: > > English >

Re: v7 Unicode and MySQL

2014-05-06 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 6 May 2014, at 08:37, Tim Selander wrote: > Hi, > > Wondering if anyone has used/tested v7 with a UTF8 MySQL database yet? Unfortunately, LiveCode externals (like the MySQL database driver) do not currently support Unicode. Adding Unicode support to externals requires breaking the existin

Re: Installing 6.6.1 Community on Windows 8

2014-05-03 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 03/05/2014 06:48, Dar Scott wrote: > I think so, since I just clicked a button when I did some privileged things > (run as admin, OK some I/O). That is, I didn’t have to type in a password. The LiveCode installers handle privilege elevation themselves - it is best to not run them as an admini

Re: 7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 1 May 2014, at 17:37, Richmond wrote: > That would be OK if RunRev lobbed me the odd banana now and again. *throws banana at Richmond* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Typing Unicode

2014-04-09 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 9 Apr 2014, at 13:27, Graham Samuel wrote: > > At the moment, since my own required set of Unicode-only (non-normal > keyboard) characters is quite limited, I'm going for a little window (stack) > with a grid of characters that can be picked by the mouse (or if there is a > mobile version

Re: codepointProperty

2014-04-04 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 04/04/2014 18:47, Richmond wrote: >> So, checking out "codepointProperty" in the Dictionary [AND, I am >> very happy to say, the >> Dictionary seems more up-to-date than it has been for years] I read >> this: >> >> "This function is not intended for general-purpose use; please use >> functions s

Re: 7.0 dp 1 Dictionary

2014-04-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Apr 2014, at 15:04, Richmond wrote: > and so to: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr44/#Decomposition_Type > "PropList.txt" > > would I be correct in thinking that in scripting phrases that are of this > sort;| > > codepointProperty(c, "Diacritic") > > where you have "Diacritic" one coul

Re: 7.0 dp 1 Dictionary

2014-04-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Apr 2014, at 13:15, Richmond wrote: > Re: Diacritics. While you are a real computer programmer (which I am most > definitely not), I have an M.A. in Linguistics. > I remembered your interest in linguistics shortly after sending the email and felt rather silly for providing egg-sucking i

Re: 7.0 dp 1 Dictionary

2014-04-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Apr 2014, at 12:30, Fraser Gordon wrote: > > On 2 Apr 2014, at 12:24, Richmond wrote: > >> I have just been reading Fraser's seminal article here: >> >> http://livecode.com/blog/2014/04/02/examining-unicode-part-ii-digesting-text/ >> >>

Re: 7.0 dp 1 Dictionary

2014-04-02 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 2 Apr 2014, at 12:24, Richmond wrote: > I have just been reading Fraser's seminal article here: > > http://livecode.com/blog/2014/04/02/examining-unicode-part-ii-digesting-text/ > > and got all excited about "codepointProperty", but did not quite understand > "Diacritic", > Diacritics ar

Re: Amazing new feature in LiveCode 6.7DP-1.4.14

2014-04-01 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 1 Apr 2014, at 16:53, Devin Asay wrote: > Thanks to the engine refactoring project made possible by last year's > Kickstarter campaign the good folks at RunRev have finally been able to > implement a feature that I have wanted for years. You know how you're always > yelling at your compute

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26 Mar 2014, at 15:37, Geoff Canyon wrote: > > "somebody, somewhere, might be depending on the fact that it interprets the > number modulo 256" We've already had a bug report against 7.0 because it wasn't doing that in certain cases. The problem with making non-compatible changes to exist

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 21:03, Richmond wrote: > By the way; Korean (among other writing systems) seems to have been > overlooked: it is often written vertically: i.e. Top to Bottom, Right > to Left. Not overlooked so much as not really possible to retro-fit into the current implementation of fields (unlike

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 20:42, BNig wrote: > I noticed that plug-ins in 5.5 format save in 7.0 format when opened in 7.0 > and the plug-in is saved. > This happens inspite of the the preference to save in legacy format. That definitely looks like a bug to me - the intention was that anything that was opene

Re: 7.0 Issues

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 20:25, Peter Haworth wrote: > Also, the new cursorMovement and textDirection properties do not have > dictionary entries. They are not documented because RTL is still an experimental feature and they will almost certainly change before the final release - we don't want anyone relying

Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.6

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21/03/2014 19:35, Richmond wrote: > Am I to assume that either: > > 1. The standalones they produce are duds? > > or > > 2. The standalones use earlier recensions of the engine The changes that cause incompatibilities with MacOS X 10.5 are part of 6.7, which is still under development and isn't

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-21 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 21 Mar 2014, at 01:36, Mark Wieder wrote: > > Thanks. Most of that makes sense, but why not alias the deprecated > uni* functions to text* functions rather than just having them return > the wrong thing? UniEncode would alias to textDecode and uniDecode to textEncode as the closest equivale

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-20 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 20 Mar 2014, at 17:39, Mark Wieder wrote: > put unidecode("hello bucko") > > converts the text to 敨汬Ɐ戠捵潫. Thinking about this a bit more, I ought to write something up about how text and binary work in the 7.0 engine and how this relates to the existing ways of doing things. The short ve

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-20 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 20 Mar 2014, at 17:28, Mark Wieder wrote: > > In that case, shouldn't the setUnicode value be "true" rather than false? > And does it make sense to have that property settable any more? All the previous Unicode functionality has been left as-is in order to avoid breaking existing stacks. Ho

Re: best/fastest way to tell if a field contains unicode text?

2014-03-20 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 20 Mar 2014, at 15:37, Geoff Canyon wrote: > What's the most efficient way to count how many lines are plain and how > many actually need unicode? Out of interest - why are you trying to do this? I ask because trying to do so may not be useful in future versions of LiveCode. In LiveCode 7.

Re: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0 DP1

2014-03-20 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 19 Mar 2014, at 23:16, Dave Kilroy wrote: > Hi all > > The release notes you get from the downloads page on the website are fine - > however the release notes you get from 7.0.0's IDE menu give you release > notes from 6.0.1 It looks like the office gremlins were at work here - we've re-upl

Re: New chunks

2014-03-13 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 13 Mar 2014, at 04:48, Jim Hurley wrote: > > So I really can't see the purpose of RR's "sentence chunk". I wish they would > explain. > We'd be using ICU's sentence breaking code. They include a whole bunch of language-related knowledge with the library and can use that to tell the diffe

Re: New chunks

2014-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2014, at 17:02, Richmond wrote: > On 12/03/14 18:07, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> On 3/12/14, 5:12 AM, Fraser Gordon wrote: >>> The library that we use for low-level Unicode stuff >> >> Just curious, do you know how much this will inflate the file size of

LiveCode 7 and Bi-directional fields

2014-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
Hi all, Due to the many responses we received to our question about adding new chunk types to the LiveCode engine, I thought it might be useful to ask you about another potential change coming in LiveCode 7.0: how fields should handle bi-directional text. Currently, fields can be aligned to th

Re: Linux 64 Bit builds

2014-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2014, at 16:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I believe Mark Weider has already successfully built a 64-bit compile of the > Linux engine - Mark, is that correct? He's done a lot of work getting it running and it has been merged in to our GitHub repo. > > What's required to make that a

Re: Linux 64 Bit builds

2014-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 12 Mar 2014, at 15:39, Malte Brill wrote: > > Also, can anybody point out the requirements for running liveCode under > Linux? I have a puzzling situation, where on a vanilla UBUNTU 13.x install > text is not rendered and the gui is semi transparent. Anyone else seen that? > I guess I jus

Re: New chunks

2014-03-12 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 11 Mar 2014, at 19:26, Richmond wrote: > > Well; in theory that looks good until you start to think about languages > which are > written (such as Sanskrit) with no obvious word boundaries and both vowel > mutation (Sandhi) > at what would be word boundaries, and consonant fusion. The libr

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