> On 26 Jul 2024, at 8:01 pm, Heriberto wrote:
>
> I am currently using the "Community" version, but it does not
> work on Apple Silicon devices.
That’s a disappointment, I was thinking it might be my refuge for my Community
work.
Do standalones created with the
Unfortunately, my tests with various M1 and M2 Mac models using the
community edition of LiveCode have yielded negative results.
1. The IDE opens but closes almost immediately.
2. Running a LiveCode app compiled for Intel-based Macs results in the
error message: "This application cann
munity" version, but it does not
work on Apple Silicon devices.
That’s a disappointment, I was thinking it might be my refuge for my Community
work.
Do standalones created with the Community Edition not work on Apple Silicon?
Neville Smythe
refuge for my
Community work.
Do standalones created with the Community Edition not work on Apple
Silicon?
Neville Smythe
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I am currently using the "Community" version, but it does not
work on Apple Silicon devices.
That’s a disappointment, I was thinking it might be my refuge for
my Community work.
Do standalones created with the Community Edition not work on Apple
S
Hi,
One of the methods suggested for the use of the Community Edition was for
producing in-house applications.
Unless I am mistaken it does not seem possible to fulfil this promise when
using commercial plugins that have password protection.
Is that correct or am I missing something?
All
That's correct.
Gerry
On 17/04/2013, at 4:48 PM, Terence Heaford wrote:
> Is that correct or am I missing something?
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In the near future we should see many community edition plugins.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013, Gerry Orkin wrote:
> That's correct.
>
> Gerry
>
>
> On 17/04/2013, at 4:48 PM, Terence Heaford
> >
> wrote:
>
> >
here is the announcement: https://livecode.org/
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Hi there
I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.
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I want to show a .pdf with url httpAdress, so I got a fresh widget named
„Browser“ and did a button with the script
on mouseup
put
"https://programmausdruck.br.de/radio/br-klassik/programmkalender/br-klassik120.jsp?day=2020-01-09";
into httpAdress
set the url of widget "Browser" to ht
Now I have to work out the new maze of pricing!
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 17:07, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
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> here is the announcement: https://livecode.org/
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Don't forget the discount for however long that's good for
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 1:00 PM Kaveh via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Now I have to work out the new maze of pricing!
>
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 17:07, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev
OK. Price per month:
- Starter plan Mac – £7.99
- Starter plan Windows – £7.99
- Starter Mac + Windows – £24.99
What am I missing?
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 18:03, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Don't forget the discount for however long that's good
You can only buy one plan time per person. Or if you are an organization, again
you all need to be on the same plan. You can't buy two $9.99 platforms -
Starter pricing is intended to be just that, to make it easy and accessible to
get started.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecod
On 31/08/2021 19:28, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote:
You can only buy one plan time per person. Or if you are an organization, again
you all need to be on the same plan. You can't buy two $9.99 platforms -
Starter pricing is intended to be just that, to make it easy and accessible to
get
Alex:
> I'm surprised there is no "annual payment" option
> on the standard plan. The standard plan is also the hobbyist plan
"The LiveCode standard plan is an annual subscription which starts
at $299 per deployment platform per year"
"LiveCode Starter Plan
A great way to get started with Liv
Thanks Curry. You are absolutely right, everything I said was about the starter
plan, not the standard plan.
With that correction: “I am surprised there is no annual option on the starter
(hobbyist) plan”.
Thanks,
Alex the hobbyist.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 01:55, Curry Kenw
Alex,
i am not sure, if everyone is aware of it, but standalones that were created
with the Starter Plan license will expire as soon as the Startert Plan
subscription expires.
Matthias
> Am 01.09.2021 um 10:29 schrieb Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
> :
>
> Thanks Curry. You are absolutely ri
I can't say this surprises me. I didn't expect the open source offering to
do anything but cut into the bottom line. But certainty isn't achieved
until something is tried and actual results obtained. One of the good
things about having the code source was that there have been times when
I've wanted
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:26 am, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> There you had a group of programmers who supposedly loved what
> HyperCard could do, but they only loved that concept as a historical
> artefact, not as a tool available to people now.
Abso-frogging-lutely.
The really
Extending on something Bernd said, I would hope the gang will consider is
keeping portions that are built upon the engine OSS, even with a
restrictive commercial license.
Something else for all of us to remember, when LC went OSS, there was a
reason, and at least part of that was financial.
As with
FWIW over on the forums the sentiment seems to be mostly hostile to these
changes. Many are talking of collecting and hosting past "community"
installers to get around these changes by LC Ltd, others talking of jumping
ship. Over there the attitude is "the sky is falling". I can only assume
many
I just hope that my Price Lock Indy subscription will continue as promised.
Kevin did say yesterday that "if we promised something in the past we do honour
it” and back when I started my Indy sub I was told that my subscription will
'remain at the same cost for as long as I keep it active' – hen
Check your email..,
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Keith Martin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I just hope that my Price Lock Indy subscription will continue as promised.
Mine was cancelled via email from cleverbridge:
Your subscription for "LiveCode Indy - Price Lock" has been canceled.
> K
Brian... your price lock lapsed in January 2019. The last payment we received
was in 2018, hence it could hardly be described as having been "kept active".
Please contact support to discuss your exact licensing situation, I think you
will find it more satisfactory than you realise.
Best Regards
"I can only assume
many of them used LC simply because it was free of charge, disliking that
doing so in future will entail them making some contribution to the cost of
progress."
That's a bit harsh, are you forgetting the amount of money that was
contributed by users to the fund raisers over the
The vast majority of those who contributed to the Kickstarter were rewarded
with something other than the free product.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28379192
I suggest you go read the comments on the Forum and see who is being
harsh. LC Ltd made a change that is within their rights to ke
We are of course incredibly grateful for the contributions we have received,
all of which were spent on the project over many years. However I would note
that 90%+ of all crowd funding campaign support came from license holders, the
majority in the form of future license purchases. Commercial li
I think I’ll head over there and. See if there is any will to maintain an
aspect of the language as open source - I think there are a couple of options:
1. The server
2. The language with a focus on was and web
I would think that with these components open, this is in no way incompatible
with a
a use-livecode
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I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.
Mi
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I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.
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>
> I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
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> That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.
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> I sugg
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documented and low cost community edition is not necessarily
the sane as an open source software that might be quite geeky.
For me it makes more sense for LiveCode LTD to focus on easy to use products
that are packaged for community and commercial use, while the open source
aspect fits the needs of
e:
>
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>
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Hi Dan,
Yes, there were a lot of us who specifically contributed to make the Community
version possible
as open source. One of the justifications was that if the company went under
we would still have
the Community version available to us. The promise that the company would also
support it was
Rick rumbled,
> It would be nice if the company were willing to provide the final version of
> the Community
> version under an MIT license instead of GPL since they will no longer be
> supporting it at all, and
> it marks a true fork in the road from the codebase going forward.
While it sou
I like the idea of a free version that does not compile into an app. Lets
schools teach LiveCode and lets people learn it before deciding to buy it.
My two cents
Kee Nethery
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Rick has brought to mind an interesting point about the new pricing model. It’s
one that I think of occasionally. Currently and in the new model we pay for
each deployment. But it’s a bit odd. Surely what we should be paying for is the
Core engine and then smaller amounts for each deployment mod
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I can understand why there are users who feel betrayed by the company
especially with the new
pricing structure, and the discontinuance of support for the Community
version which was even
paid for in a marketing campaign in advance of it’s release.
<<
The vast majority of the money contributed t
On 9/2/21 12:34 PM, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote:
Here’s the calculations as it stands for the new Standard Plan.
1 platform = $300
2 platforms = $500 ($200 more)
3 platforms = $900 (another $400 more ??)
4 platforms = $1000 ($100 more )
5 platforms = $1500 ($500 more [mind blown])
6 pl
HI Kee,
You do know the schools license gives you complete access to all 7 platforms
and permanent standalones for $25 a seat per year and the apps are non-expiring?
> On Sep 2, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Kee Nethery via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I like the idea of a free version that does not compile
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> > True, true.
>> >
>> > There could be a small group of programmers that pass a stack around
>> > but you would not be able to convince/teach a civilian to install a
>> > programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any other
>&
gt; > programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any other
> > > supporting files, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter. I
> > would
> > > not dismiss this out-of-hand. A 90 day free IDE could also be an
> option.
> > >
> >
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> >> > True, true.
> >> >
> >> > There could be a small group of programmers that pass a stack
> around
> >> > but you would not be able to convince/teach a civilian to install a
> >
s, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter. I
> would
> > not dismiss this out-of-hand. A 90 day free IDE could also be an option.
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> > > programmin
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Michael Kristensen via use-livecode:
Hi there
I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.
Michael
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t; > but you would not be able to convince/teach a civilian to install a
> > > programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any
> other
> > > supporting files, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter.
> I
> > would
> > > not dismis
ince/teach a civilian to install a
> > > programming IDE and explain how to run the stack along with any other
> > > supporting files, SW or plug-ins... Mobile would be a non-starter. I
> > would
> > > not dismiss this out-of-hand. A 90 day free IDE could also be an option.
ourself
> > > >
> > > > On 02/09/2021, 15:51, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via
> > > > use-livecode" > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > True, true.
> > > >
> > >
On 04/09/2021 15:36, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote:
So the question here is why not do the same here - keep a free-to-develop
“trial version” without the compilation framework and tools. I’m curious to the
reasoning. The cynic in me would say that the assumption is that there are too
fe
You wouldn't necessarily even need that much. Tell them to install the free
version and open your stack from the File menu. It isn't an app but they'd
have all the capabilities.
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On September
Not sure how this would work - but what if only licensed versions of LC could
produce and run distributable/shareable stacks while the free version could
only run stacks produced by that particular instance of the app?
On 5/9/21, 3:57 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via
use-livec
There will always be a subset of people that will circumvent paying for
software. I'm not convinced an endless battle trying to prevent misuse is
worth the cost of hampering the onboarding experience for new customers.
Unless you've cornered the market you really can't afford to be user
hostile.
P
Dreamweaver, RevMedia . . . absolutely no need to do any thinking
whatsoever . . . it has all happened before.
On 5.09.21 10:42, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote:
Not sure how this would work - but what if only licensed versions of LC could
produce and run distributable/shareable stacks while
Hi Folks,
This seems headed for trouble again if we're not careful.
We must avoid repeating the same history:
1. Added work for LC Ltd without compensation*
2. Buggy struggling main product due to #1
3. Overcomplicating things
4. Burdening those who pay with the extra expense
5. *Added work f
Worse still...
Dan:
> Introduce breaking changes when it's necessary
> to move the language forward
We tried "cut off the old hair" memes already, remember?
I would argue that retaining legacy functionality and behaviours whilst
trying to modernise or improve a language introduces bugs and is
> I'd also get rid of any existing lifetime
> and lock in licenses (sorry, time to clean house)
That would clean house all right! Hand grenade style.
We'd be getting to the point of serious self-harm.
It can't be any more harmful than abruptly pulling the rug from under the
feet of your larges
h, right - contacting LC Ltd and asking how they could
contribute financially was beyond their abilities.
In 25 years on the internet, I've never before seen such a collection of
valueless people as these whiners (they wouldn't be tolerated in any other
business or open source communit
On the flip side, if there's only a small demographic then the loss of that
revenue would be minimal and the company would retain its honorable reputation.
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On September 5, 2021 8:57:33 AM Dan
Hi Dan,
So you want the company to break more promises, even to the lifetimers?
A lot of the lifetimers have spent a lot of money on licenses before
deciding to invest in lifetime licenses. I don’t think you want to be
ticking off what is probably the company's most loyal base.
It’s a recipe f
Over on the Forum I've seen several of the whiners criticising the lifetime
licenses - people who have paid a tiny fraction of what we've paid (if
they've paid anything at all)! I suspect their baseless criticisms have
cost more than any of the whiners have paid in license fees. If I ran the
Forum
> money". Yeah, right - contacting LC Ltd and asking how they could
> contribute financially was beyond their abilities.
>
> In 25 years on the internet, I've never before seen such a collection of
> valueless people as these whiners (they wouldn't be tolerated in any
Let’s get this conundrum worked out:
1. If I have Mac or Windows machine
2. If I download “Livecode 9.6.4 Standard ”
3. And I pay $300.00 for an annual license
4. I can build for Desktop for Windows, Linux, iOS iPhone, Android
5. Minus Premium features
6. For one year + plus the upgrades that occu
Edition is around or not. Without those things, it is very hard for any FOSS
initiative to blossom. Without those things, it is very hard to make a
programming language community feel vibrant and alive. We had eight years of LC
Community Edition, and as a community we haven’t really cared to
ooks, and
> fostering the community.
> * There are very few services and companies besides LiveCode Ltd offering
> products to the community.
>
>
> All items mentioned above are important regardless if LiveCode Community
> Edition is around or not. Without those thing
+1 Yes, speculation is fun, but probably not very useful :-)
On 06/09/2021 12:20, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:
Let’s take a step back for a second and realise as a community we lack many
things that other programming language communities have. We do have a very
healthy mailing list,
; On 02/09/2021, 15:51, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via
> > > > use-livecode" > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > True, true.
> > > >
> > > > There could be a
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I’m happy paying for my license because I can see the value LC provides me,
> and how my money directly affects their ability to output quality stuff. I
> love FOSS, but I’d rather have a healthy LC Ltd around with the r
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 3:08 PM Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> We have dabbled with a number of low cost /entry level offerings in the
> past. There used to be a starter kit that allowed only a certain number of
> lines of code per object. We had non-standal
Hi Bernard,
I could be called one of the whiners but I have paid my indy licence since
the kickstarter and the business Upgrade (until a year ago - Incase I
needed it - I didnt).
My biggest "whine" is not the ending of the open source initiative - it's
the fact that OUR biggest competitors (XOJO
On 06/09/2021 19:07, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote:
The biggest error livecode has made all these years is not creating a
"working" storefront that doesn't look like it has been totally given up on.
Not sure that's the "biggest" - but yes, I agree it looks unloved.
Look at the addons crea
Folks:
I’ve been following this thread and have a few thoughts I decided to share.
Interestingly, I don’t see Android support for XOJO. Hmm….
In my case (I have a Commercial license), I am really happy that version 10 of
LC will be improving the web software. I’ve been thinking about diving into
Actually I wasn't particularly addressing you. For one thing, I'll wager
you've got hundreds of posts on the Forum.
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:09 PM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> My biggest "whine" is not the ending of the open source initiative - it's
> the
Actually their link is not correct - press on the extras icon - Monkeybread
does some awesome addons
and keeps them upto date.
Some are included put some go way past both the builtin XOJO and LC
"widgets"
Another company's software I used for visual Foxpro and Delphi over the
years was
https://
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:13 AM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Another company's software I used for visual Foxpro and Delphi over the
> years was
>
> https://www.chilkatsoft.com/
>
> Look at all the languages they support and livecode isn't on there [...]
Folks,
Thank you for all your input on this subject. I think everyone has now had an
opportunity to express opinions, discuss, and understand the changes. As Kevin
has said previously, if you have constructive ideas on how to improve our new
model, please do send them to him direct. Naturally p
>>>> LiveCode: Develop Yourself
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/2021, 15:51, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via
>>>> use-livecode" >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>True, true.
>>&g
> On Sep 2, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Mark Smith via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> HI Kee,
>
> You do know the schools license gives you complete access to all 7 platforms
> and permanent standalones for $25 a seat per year and the apps are
> non-expiring?
Did not know that.
Kee
_
Speaking of an educational license, perhaps consider, now that a lot of
learning is online, having the ability to "assign" a seat license an email and
password, so that someone could teach an online course, and distribute each
seat license to students for the duration of the class. Upon graduati
Bob, that is exactly what the schools and university licenses are. Plus, the
apps developed with them the are non-expiring (which is probably a good thing
since many students will want to continue using their apps and not have them go
p and disappear). School is $25 a seat per year, and univ
Hi Richard,
> Am 08.01.2020 um 21:54 schrieb Hillen Richard via use-livecode
> :
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to show a .pdf with url httpAdress, so I got a fresh widget named
> „Browser“ and did a button with the script
> on mouseup
> put
> "https://programmausdruck.br.de/radio/br-klassik/programmk
Richard,
I can confirm it here. Tried with LC 9.5.1 and 9.6.0 DP1 Business on Mac and i
also do not see anything.
But here it get´s even worse.
As it seems the PDF is created on the fly in your link i tried to use
"existing" PDFs.
If i use an URL which links to a local file on my hard disk or
Dear Livecode experts,
I'm working on creating / merging / compiling some Golang external tools
to be used with the Livecode Community Edition (I know nothing about
C++, just, Go, JS, and Livecode).
So, the Livecode Community programs can call external and independent
programs to a
Good morning Dear LiveCoders,
Well, it's 6am here in Turkey
and this is definitely a fine morning.
I wasn't aware until this very moment how much I'm eagerly waiting the release
of new version.
I've dreamed about LiveCode Community Edition this night.
They announced that S
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Cc: Kevin Miller; Michael Kristensen
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition
Thanks for the constructive suggestion. Unfortunately with a
Heriberto:
> Golang external tools to be used with the Livecode Community Edition
> ... users who want to fork the Community Edition?
Interesting, but I think here (use-livecode list) is not the place;
you should talk to Heather and Kevin: support (at) livecode.com. :)
They would hav
Thanks Curry!
On 10/31/21 00:44, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:
Heriberto:
> Golang external tools to be used with the Livecode Community Edition
> ... users who want to fork the Community Edition?
Interesting, but I think here (use-livecode list) is not the place;
you shoul
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