Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-16 Thread Derek Bump via use-livecode
Thank you for speaking up, Richard. I could not agree more: deployment issues are a critical bottleneck that deserves immediate attention. Regards, Derek Bump On 10/13/23 12:46, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: We see it here in this list. We see it in the forums. We see it wherever ap

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-16 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
I’ve stopped development of my Mac app because LiveCode does not support in-app purchases (ie, allowing me to get paid) and the deployment hassle is just not worth it for an app that has no way to make money. There is NO REASON for each developer to painfully figure out how to deploy apps when

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/14/2023 7:12 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Hi all, there is a way to export a Apple ID account including developer certificates and provisioning profiles at once using Xcode. See here https://dl.qck.nu/?dl=Transfer-Copy_Developer_Account_to_a_new_computer.pdf Regards, Matthi

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hi all, there is a way to export a Apple ID account including developer certificates and provisioning profiles at once using Xcode. See here https://dl.qck.nu/?dl=Transfer-Copy_Developer_Account_to_a_new_computer.pdf Regards, Matthias > Am 14.10.2023 um 06:52 schrieb Mark Smith via use-liveco

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Perfect. I am sure I knew that at one point but had forgotten. Thank you for the reminder. Mark > On 14 Oct 2023, at 6:15 pm, Paul Dupuis wrote: > > On 10/14/2023 12:52 AM, Mark Smith wrote: >> Paul, just so I understand this problem better. Is there a reason why you >> can’t just download y

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks Jacque > On 14 Oct 2023, at 5:16 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > The certificate is locked to a particular machine. You can either export it > from Keychain or create a new one. To create the certificate, the Mac must > submit a signing request, w

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/14/2023 12:52 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Paul, just so I understand this problem better. Is there a reason why you can’t just download your certificates from the Apple Developer site to your MacBook Air? Do they specifically restrict downloading to only certain devices? If you download from

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The certificate is locked to a particular machine. You can either export it from Keychain or create a new one. To create the certificate, the Mac must submit a signing request, which I assume identifies the machine. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
Re: The problem was getting my Apple code signing certificates AND related certificates on to the MacBook air from the Apple Developer site, something I don't think Livecode can really help with. Paul, just so I understand this problem better. Is there a reason why you can’t just download your

RE: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Don't know why I didn't see Richard's post in my email, but +1 too. Bob S -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Klaus major-k via use-livecode Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 10:53 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Klaus major-k Subject: Re: Deployment: a p

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/13/23 12:46 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: If pro devs with decades of experience struggle with this, newcomers will run screaming. I agree. But as a "pro" dev I'm embarrassed to admit that the problem I was having was of my own doing. Matthias' Helper tool is invaluable and

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I'd love to see versions of Livecode stacks that assist with code signing and notarization for as many platforms as possible (I am aware of stacks for Windows and macOS) built into Livecode. That said, for my two major problems (1 on macOS and 1 on Windows), I don't think there is anything Liv

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Glod via use-livecode Date: Friday, October 13, 2023 at 12:15 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Tom Glod Subject: Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity 100% the biggest problem I have in my business. Have been stuck on iOS for months. Android and Windows is kind of OK, but still more can be done. Agree

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
100% the biggest problem I have in my business. Have been stuck on iOS for months. Android and Windows is kind of OK, but still more can be done. Agree. Would pay for a solution that just works. On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 3:00 PM Mark Smith via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
+1, I totally agree this is really important (and really hard to keep up with). But Apple should take some of the responsibility for this. With the resources at their disposal they should be able to create a simpler and easier way to execute deployment without sacrificing security and authenti

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
I second (3rd and 4th too) Richard's plea. Deployment is a killer. Bill William A. Prothero, PhD Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science University of California, Santa Barbara > On Oct 13, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > We see it here in this list. We see it in

Re: Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Bravo, Richard, you are so right, bravo! > Am 13.10.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > : > > We see it here in this list. We see it in the forums. We see it wherever app > deployment is discussed: > OS requirements for packaging/stapling/signing apps are onerous. > At the e

Deployment: a plea/opportunity

2023-10-13 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
We see it here in this list. We see it in the forums. We see it wherever app deployment is discussed: OS requirements for packaging/stapling/signing apps are onerous. At the edge of, and sometimes exceeding, being prohibitively so. There's no point in making a standalone if you can't ship it.