Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-17 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 15/09/2011 23:51, Monte Goulding wrote: > My reading of it was your customer would need the enterprise license not you. I can confirm that an Enterprise license doesn't let you distribute to your clients (not even test builds, which is what I wanted to do with it). I recently applied for on

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-16 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:08:42 -0500, Chipp Walters wrote: ... snip.. I predict another Mac vs Windows change in balance of power soon after Steve Jobs is no longer with the company. Yep, right, here is the first step in this direction.. Microsoft to take 30% cut of Metro apps under Windo

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-16 Thread Chipp Walters
Probably not easily, as it has a significant amount of business logic local, plus it needs to sync the display and data with the Flash website in realtime, which has a whole other set of issues. And even if I could, I wouldn't have the time to master HTML5/Javascript in the time allotted for this p

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-16 Thread Josh Mellicker
On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Thankfully, our > customers prefer Android to iOS by a significant margin-- but the LC Android > build capabilities are still lagging behind. This is the reason we've chosen > to develop for iOS first. Could you develop this project with HTML5/

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-16 Thread Chipp Walters
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > I totally agree Chipp but you don't want to get to the end of the process > and find out it's unworkable. For example, will they at some stage ask you > to identify the employees and contractors of your company and provide proof > they wo

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 11:58 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are choosing more often to deploy first on Android. But the flip side of that was

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: > I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and > promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are > choosing more often to deploy first on Android. But the flip side of > that was discussed in another article I rea

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Hi Dar, > > > Thankfully, our > customers prefer Android to iOS by a significant margin-- but the LC > Android > build capabilities are still lagging behind

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Monte Goulding
> It's hard enough for us to try and get an Apple developer license. Imagine > how confusing this process would be for our client! And, what would they do > with it? Remember, they're a marketing group. They would rather we keep > track of the technology for now. I totally agree Chipp but you don

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Chipp Walters
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Maybe. Personally I think piracy is overrated in terms of sales impact. > Perhaps. But in the case of mobile phones, not so fast. Here's why. As commercial developers, we all pretty much know our job is to deter the casual pirate-- the

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Dar, We already use Ad Hoc provisioning with apps-- the problem is, they time out and are only available to a total of 100 users cumulative for all apps from a single developer. So, it's not really a solution, and furthermore, Apple frowns on it, and as you know, no one wants to make Apple angr

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > The spread of malware ... Perhaps this is an important issue this century. Apple's policies are part of the industry learning process in dealing with this. Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > My reading of it was your customer would need the enterprise license not you. > Is that wrong? Yeah, that is my impression. I suspect I didn't understand Chipp's need. Not that I know anything; that is just the impression I got. http://deve

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: Android users seem to be far more brutal in their reviews. Both platforms have their share of users who don't read the description or the docs and then mark down an app for not doing something it wasn't written to do. But it seems that many perfectly fine Android apps get tr

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are choosing more often to deploy first on Android. But the flip side of that was discussed in another article I read, which talked about

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 6:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are choosing more often to deploy first on Android. A couple of other thoughts. I've been mulling this over for so

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 5:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Given that for nearly every person who chooses iOS two choose Android, it looks like it's off to a reasonably good start: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some c

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Richard, Thanks.That had been my assumption. Maybe the VM Fusion 4, just released, may resolve some of those issues. I'm really only coding for the Mac market anyway. If they like what I do and want to use it, they can switch to a Mac. (smile) That's been my credo for the past 25 years. Not to

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Monte Goulding
On 16/09/2011, at 7:08 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > So, our customer would like us to build both an iOS and Android app for > their advisers. I thought this should be simple. Let's see-- for Apple, > we'll need an Enterprise license and for Android we'll need..hmmm. zippo. > Just build and deploy o

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > I guess my only concern to this would be: is the quality of the > applications as good and versatile on Android as on iOS? For example: > how about the uses of music and voices? My Windows versions of my Mac > Apps in which I use sound of almost any kind really sucks!

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Fellas, I guess my only concern to this would be: is the quality of the applications as good and versatile on Android as on iOS? For example: how about the uses of music and voices? My Windows versions of my Mac Apps in which I use sound of almost any kind really sucks! Also, I just use a Ma

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: ... So, of course Apple wants another 300 bucks, what's new. You don't get to be the richest company in the US by not being greedy, and certainly developers are a good source of revenue. OK, fine. Now, first thing it turns out you also need, is a D&B rating (Dunn & Bradstreet