command-line use on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
I downloaded the Darwin engine and I can do this: ./mc helloworld.txt In this form, the text file does not seem to need #!. This engine seems bloated; it is well over 2MB. X11? I seem to have forgotten most of what I know of unix from a quarter century ago. I don't need cgi (yet). I just

RE: release history; what is a feature release?

2003-08-27 Thread Monte Goulding
Runrev, here is your release history. Under the current licensing model which of these would have been called maintenance releases and which would have been called feature releases? 2.1 and 1.1 are the non-obvious ones. 2.0 clearly was a feature release. Version 2.1: August 25, 2003

RE: icon global property

2003-08-27 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Monte, set the icon to 1003 I don't think it is a global icon, but is a stack icon. Or was that fixed? From the docs: icon global,button,stack property set the icon of this stack to 974 set the icon of button Help to Question Mark set the icon to the myAppIcon of stack

Re: application browser: order of substacks?

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 08:29 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Alex, Wolfgang, et al: I have never tried this; but I think it will do the job...without changing the AB. on orderSubs mainStack get the substacks of stack mainStack sort it set the substacks of stack mainStack

Re: command-line use on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Rodney Tamblyn
Hi Dar, If you are looking for a simple and basic text editor from the command line, try pico... pico myfile.txt The commands inside are self explanatory. You can also execute stacks from the commandline. Eg Make a Revolution stack, in the stack script put an on libraryStack handler. The

Re: release history; what is a feature release?

2003-08-27 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 3:09 PM -0600 8/26/2003, Alex Rice wrote: Runrev, here is your release history. Under the current licensing model which of these would have been called maintenance releases and which would have been called feature releases? Releases of the form X.0 and X.Y are feature releases (major and

Re: command-line use on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Rodney Tamblyn wrote: pico myfile.txt Pico is also the text editor used by Pine, if you've ever used that. Beware if you are editing system files with pico- it will do a hard wrap of long lines, which can cause unfortunate results on config files and

2.1 dictionary bug?

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Shaw
hi, When I use the Transcript dictionary and select an item from the Show: combo it selects the item before the one i've selected.. eg. if I select 'show contants' it actually shows the list of commands (which is the item prior to constants) again only tested this on the pc version...

Re: Picture this

2003-08-27 Thread Ken Norris
Hi Monte, From: Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Picture this Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:43:05 +0930 Hi Ken Not a similar solution but what's wrong with using another field with larget font and putting the central line into it in each scroll loop? --- Well, I wanted

Re: free, lightweight sql engine

2003-08-27 Thread Tuviah Snyder
Not sure, but I don't think it's currently possible; someone would have to write an external to use the SQLite client API or write a new database driver for RR. Your welcome to have the author of the database contact me and I will send him the revdb headers...so he can compile a revdb driver.

Re: command-line use on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Rodney Tamblyn wrote: #!/usr/local/bin/revolution (or whereever your revolution is) Is this the Darwin engine or the OS X engine? Not realizing that the command-line engine was also the Darwin X11 engine I got it from MC. Would the regular OS X engine

Re: command-line use on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Rodney Tamblyn wrote: put hello world I've been using this: write hello world to stdout Are these exactly the same or does put right to something else? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL

indeterminate progress bar

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
Standard Icons has several indeterminate progress bars and a chasing arrows. I set one of those icons in a button, and I'm trying to get it to animate while I'm in a long repeat loop. I tried wait with messages, but that killed performance, and didn't seem to animate it either. What's the

Re: free, lightweight sql engine

2003-08-27 Thread revolution
It is possible to access SQLite from Rev in two ways: 1) via odbc (requires installing odbc drivers with your standalone) 2) via shelling out to a command line, running the SQLite SQL client processing the result. I believe that Pierre mentioned that someone (Andu?) on the Metacard list has

Re: free, lightweight sql engine

2003-08-27 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le mer 27/08/2003 09:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit : It is possible to access SQLite from Rev in two ways: 1) via odbc (requires installing odbc drivers with your standalone) 2) via shelling out to a command line, running the SQLite SQL client processing the result. I believe that Pierre

Re: command-line use on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Rodney Tamblyn
Dar, I downloaded Revolution CGI from ftp://ftp.runrev.com ... navigate down to the engines/2.0/cgi folder. The 2.1 CGIs aren't posted yet. Regards, Rodney On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 05:20 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Rodney Tamblyn wrote:

RE: release history; what is a feature release?

2003-08-27 Thread Robert Brenstein
Runrev, here is your release history. Under the current licensing model which of these would have been called maintenance releases and which would have been called feature releases? 2.1 and 1.1 are the non-obvious ones. 2.0 clearly was a feature release. Version 2.1: August 25, 2003

Re: Newbie enquiry re using Revolution for Myst style games

2003-08-27 Thread peter9 . smith
Thanks for the responses to my enquiry, I feel more confident now about looking at Revolution as a way forward. On Myst and Manhole - not sure any download of Manhole out on the web is legitimate. I'd heard that Myst and I think Riven were developed in Hypercard. Regards, Peter Smith.

Help Sites

2003-08-27 Thread Broadband
Are there any websites out there that have tutorials on how to use revolution. I'm fairly new to developing and I am finding it hard to use the features I want as the online documentation does not describe all the features in depth. I have gone through the tutorials supplied with revolution but

drag and drop

2003-08-27 Thread Broadband
is it possible to create an app in revolution that allows you to drag applications icon onto it to create a link, like the launcher in Mac OS9. I'm asking as I don't know much about what revolution can do and I am interested in how it handles drag and drop. Martin Pilkington

Re: 2.1 availability for other unix flavors

2003-08-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, How many of us could be interesting in using Rev under Linux-PPC ? Thanks for the statistics ;-) Bests, Pierre Well that's why I still have a copy of all the version 1.1.1 distributions around : to make sure I have something to

Possible bug in selectedLines in 2.0.x

2003-08-27 Thread Barry Levine
I haven't checked 2.1 yet but, in 2.0.1, I've found something a little strange. I can eMail the stack if you're interested as it's very small (8K). I was testing that wonderful little dragdrop example provided by Klaus. (Yes, your script works perfectly! Thank you.) The stack has a field

Beware of double-arrows at both ends

2003-08-27 Thread Barry Levine
This isn't a Rev problem except to say that it can manifest itself in Rev. There are utilities that can provide double-arrows at both ends of a scrollbar in OSX (Cocktail, for one); there's an AppleScript called dub-dub that can do this in OS9. Don't do this. It renders the little double

how to stop execution

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Gehlbach
RR seems to always be running my code, I don't see a way to stop execution, while developing. Anyone know a way to do this? Occasionally I get stupid loops and it can be difficult to get things to stop while I fix it. Usually RR sprays error boxes and croaks, but when I restart and load the

Re: selectedLines - use hilitedLines as workaround

2003-08-27 Thread Barry Levine
(answering my own question...) Using the hilitedLines instead of the selectedLines returns accurate information with a list field containing a noncontinguous selection of lines. Apparently, selectedLines only works for contiguous selections. Barry

Re: Possible bug in selectedLines in 2.0.x

2003-08-27 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Barry, I haven't checked 2.1 yet but, in 2.0.1, I've found something a little strange. I can eMail the stack if you're interested as it's very small (8K). I was testing that wonderful little dragdrop example provided by Klaus. (Yes, your script works perfectly! Thank you.) Thank YOU ;-)

Re: how to stop execution

2003-08-27 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Steve, RR seems to always be running my code, I don't see a way to stop execution, while developing. Anyone know a way to do this? looks like you mean some openstack, preopenstack, opencard and preopencard handler that will of course be executed when you open these stacks... In this case

Re: how to stop execution

2003-08-27 Thread Pierre Sahores
In some critical debuging state cases, it can be usefull to insert a ... if the shiftkey is down then exit repeat directly inside the repeat loop. Regards, Le mer 27/08/2003 17:36, Steve Gehlbach a crit : RR seems to always be running my code, I don't see a way to stop execution, while

Re: Newbie enquiry re using Revolution for Myst style games

2003-08-27 Thread LynnP333
On Myst and Manhole - not sure any download of Manhole out on the web is legitimate.I'd heard that Myst and I think Riven were developed in Hypercard. Regards, Peter Smith. ~~ Myst was, as noted by others, created with a special version of HyperCard. Special color

Re: how to stop execution

2003-08-27 Thread yoy
Steve, You can also select Script/Debug Mode under the Development menu. It will stop at the error so you can open the script to where the problem is. All the best, Andy - Original Message - From: Steve Gehlbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003

Re: how to stop execution

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Gehlbach
Klaus Major wrote: looks like you mean some openstack, preopenstack, opencard and preopencard handler that will of course be executed when you open these stacks... In this case you can type in the messagebox: lock messages; go stack the one you want to edit Yes, the openstack handler. Your

Re: Newbie enquiry re using Revolution for Myst style games

2003-08-27 Thread Keith Martin
On Myst and Manhole - not sure any download of Manhole out on the web is legitimate. I'd heard that Myst and I think Riven were developed in Hypercard. Even before Manhole, the very first Hypercard game the Rand brothers created was Cosmic Osmo I believe. Originally on disk, it later came out

RE: Re: Newbie enquiry re using Revolution for Myst style games

2003-08-27 Thread Edwin Gore
Cosmic Osmo came out after Myst by around a year or so. The Manhole was originally offered by Cyan directly through mail order on, I believe, 12 800K disks, and that led to Activision picking it up (I think this was just before they went insane and became MediaVision - Dan Shafer probably has

arrays as custom properties or custom property sets

2003-08-27 Thread rand valentine
i have been reading old posts to the list to try and figure out as much as I can about using custom properties and custom property sets to store arrays of data. But there is some indeterminancy in the list posts, as one might expect, since they almost always address very specific needs. So, could

Re: arrays as custom properties or custom property sets

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 10:47 AM, rand valentine wrote: i have been reading old posts to the list to try and figure out as much as I can about using custom properties and custom property sets to store arrays of data. But there is some indeterminancy in the list posts, as one might

Re: 2.1 beta doesn't open

2003-08-27 Thread Paul Conover
2.1 would not open with my OS 10.1.5 same message in Council But I discovered a workaround I Double click on the file licence.rev in the new Revolution 2.1 file. and It opened! Paul ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: arrays as custom properties or custom property sets

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 11:01 AM, Alex Rice wrote: set the set1[value] of this stack to something -- into set 1 get the setx[value] of this stack -- from set x get the sety[value] of this stack --- from set y Oops, key, not value. better written as set the set1[uPropName] of this stack

On line stores

2003-08-27 Thread John Tenny
Anyone marketing through one of the on-line stores? If so, any recommendations or pitfalls? I'm particularly interested in the education market, K-12 and college. Peace, John Flowing Thought Educational Solutions 503-508-3398 ___ use-revolution

Re: drag and drop

2003-08-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
Speaking of drag and drop, I have a stack where I want the entire window to accept drops, not just the controls. The card doesn't seem to get a dragEnter message, so nothing happens unless I drop directly onto one of the controls on the card. Does anyone have a solution, or do I have to resort

Re: command-line use on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/27/03 12:22 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Rodney Tamblyn wrote: put hello world I've been using this: write hello world to stdout Are these exactly the same or does put right to something else? They are the same. When running faceless, all commands to put

Re: On line stores

2003-08-27 Thread Stephen Quinn Barncard
I've been using cdstreet.com for years - they take about 25% cut, but are prompt and give phone support. They also let you imbed code to call their servers in your pages so it looks like it's all on your site. They sell anything that's legal not just CDs. sqb Anyone marketing through one of

Re: drag and drop

2003-08-27 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Jaqueline, Speaking of drag and drop, I have a stack where I want the entire window to accept drops, not just the controls. The card doesn't seem to get a dragEnter message, so nothing happens unless I drop directly onto one of the controls on the card. Does anyone have a solution, or do I

Newbie question on CGI

2003-08-27 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone, Are their examples of Revolution CGI's. I like to create something that processes form data, save it to files or stacks, perhaps with the clients using Rev stand-alones to post to the forms. Greg ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: On line stores

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 11:16 AM, John Tenny wrote: Anyone marketing through one of the on-line stores? If so, any recommendations or pitfalls? I'm particularly interested in the education market, K-12 and college. Are you asking about marketing, or just ecommerce solutions? I have a

Re: how to stop execution

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 09:36 AM, Steve Gehlbach wrote: RR seems to always be running my code, I don't see a way to stop execution, while developing. Anyone know a way to do this? You got some good advice on blocking this immediate situation. I wonder what folks do in general

Re: how to stop execution

2003-08-27 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Dar, On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 09:36 AM, Steve Gehlbach wrote: RR seems to always be running my code, I don't see a way to stop execution, while developing. Anyone know a way to do this? You got some good advice on blocking this immediate situation. I wonder what folks do in

Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Rob Gould
I must be missing something obvious, but is there a command that provides the user's IP address (whether Mac or PC). According to the documentation on the "hostAddress" function: "Use the hostAddress function to find the IP address of the computer that Revolution is running on." I thought

Re: 2.1 beta doesn't open

2003-08-27 Thread James Richards
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:17:28 -0500 curry wrote I bugged it (number 450) and from what Tuviah said it sounds like it's fixable. (Which is great!) I had the same trouble (also OS X 10.1.3) but stupidly emailed it as a support issue before checking the list! I look forward to the fix. Does my

Re: Revolution 2.1 Installation Problems on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 06:49 PM, Alan S. Golub wrote: I just tried to install v. 2.1 on two separate Macs running OS X, v. 10.2.6. I entered my license info when prompted, but got the message: Invalid License. Error 8. I am about to do this and I want to avoid the trouble. Folks who

Re: On line stores

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Talluto
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 10:16 AM, John Tenny wrote: Anyone marketing through one of the on-line stores? If so, any recommendations or pitfalls? I'm particularly interested in the education market, K-12 and college. We work with DigiBuy. They are owned by DigitalRiver. They just

Re: Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 01:38 PM, Rob Gould wrote: I must be missing something obvious, but is there a command that provides the user's IP address (whether Mac or PC). I'm collecting ways to do this, so I'd be pleased to see answers. I think Ken Ray has some shell() solutions at his

Re: Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 01:38 PM, Rob Gould wrote: I must be missing something obvious, but is there a command that provides the user's IP address (whether Mac or PC). There is hostNameToAddress() put hostNameToAddress(localhost) -- always 127.0.0.1 on UNIX, the loopback interface

Rev 2.1 and licensing

2003-08-27 Thread Kurt Kaufman
With regard to the spate of recent Rev 2.1 installation error problems: It may be that some people are confused about whether or not they are entitled to a free upgrade to 2.1. A couple of days ago, Heather Williams wrote: Ok, it seems that certain of the replacement license codes were not

Rev 2.1 and licensing- correction

2003-08-27 Thread Kurt Kaufman
Uh, sorry, make that: If you purchased a license for Rev 2.0.x after 26th August *2002*, and your unlock code does NOT work with Rev 2.1, then you need to contact Heather off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a new unlock code. I guess it IS too complicated for me. -KK

Re: Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 02:08 PM, Alex Rice wrote: Sorry I know this doesn't really answer the question. I am speculating here that it's not possible to do just in transcript. Some time in the middle of last year I suggested an adaptors() function (need better name) that would provide

Re: drag and drop

2003-08-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/27/03 12:50 PM, Klaus Major wrote: I worked around this inconvenience by having a grouped graphic on each cd which resized with the stack... No dropping on cards otherwise... I was afraid of that. But okay, I just put an empty image object into the stack as layer 1 and it works. Using an

local host does not see broadcast on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
I have a small sockets stack that listens on a UDP port (accept) and sends datagrams to that port on an IP address. If the address is broadcast, the behavior is not consistent among platforms tested. This applies whether the broadcast is general (255.255.255.255) or subnet specific (for

Re: Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 02:05 PM, Dar Scott wrote: One that should work but is blocked by a bug is to open datagram to some bogus but syntactically valid address. Then check hostAddress. This does not work on OS X. I think I tested this on Windows, but I forgot the result. I don't

Re: drag and drop

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 02:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I worked around this inconvenience by having a grouped graphic on each cd which resized with the stack... No dropping on cards otherwise... I was afraid of that. But okay, I just put an empty image object into the stack as layer

Re: Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Scott Slaugh
I must be missing something obvious, but is there a command that provides the user's IP address (whether Mac or PC). I'm collecting ways to do this, so I'd be pleased to see answers. Here's a script I have that does this: set the itemdel to : get HostNameToAddress(item 1 of the address) The

Re: Revolution 2.1 Installation Problems on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Alan Golub
Dar -- Below I've tried to answer all your questions. But I should make clear up front that this problem fixed itself on at least one of my Macs. See below in response to your request for workarounds for more details... On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 03:52 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Folks who

Cosmic Osmo

2003-08-27 Thread John Tenny
Ah, yes, Cosmic Osmo - game with no violence. What an idea! Another gaming idea -- what about a game where you save people and small animals instead of blowing them to bits? John ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 03:09 PM, Scott Slaugh wrote: I must be missing something obvious, but is there a command that provides the user's IP address (whether Mac or PC). I'm collecting ways to do this, so I'd be pleased to see answers. Here's a script I have that does this: set the

Re: OT:Manhole, Osmo in Classic?

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: FWIW, Manhole predated Cosmic Osmo. But I was sure my daughter got him on the phone from Manhole. It must be memory faults in my brain. My daughter wanted to make Manhole like games and now that Revolution is out she is into

Re: here's a challenge

2003-08-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 03:55 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: Does anyone have any ideas?  1. Use the box char property. 2. You can make a rectangle. Place it around the line (or word). Find the rectangle for the line (or word) and then put a space around that to make the rectangle. Now

Re: local host does not see broadcast on OS X

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 04:11 PM, Dar Scott wrote: The broadcast works for other computers and I don't get an error, so this does not seem to be exactly the problem. However, I have been wondering about some other, more obscure, flag that we never heard of. At this point I don't

Simple question re: Using Extenals...

2003-08-27 Thread John Patten
Hello All... I haven't had the need to use an external Revolution, such as libSMTP... In the past with SuperCard, I could just use ResEdit to move an external into a new project. How do I use externals now with Revolution? Is it just a matter of moving a project with an external into a certain

Re: OT:Manhole, Osmo in Classic?

2003-08-27 Thread Edwin Gore
It's possible that happened. I believe that there was eventually a CD-ROM version of Manhole which I think came out after Cosmic Osmo, that had new features. There were also two version of Cosmic Osmo - a disc and a CD-Rom version. As I recall the CD-Rom had three extra planets on it. I

Re: Getting cross-platform IP address

2003-08-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 04:15 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 03:09 PM, Scott Slaugh wrote: The address function should work without a connection to the internet. However, the hostNameToAddress() function does a DNS lookup, and as such requires an internet