Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread viktoras d.
now you have my vote for this feature too. Viktoras Richard Gaskin wrote: In fact, I'm the only one who's voted for Andrew's request for that feature: I also had an email exchange with Kevin about this very feature just last week.

Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter

2009-02-02 Thread Luis
Gotta love reframes! Cheers, Luis. On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:03, Randall Reetz wrote: Sorry. I love this stuff. Do you remember the indiana jones scene where the ninja guy is comming at him with swinging knives... And he just pulls out a gun and shoots him? That is what great ideas do. --

drag-resize stack

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Smith
Has anyone any experience with adding the bottom-right-corner drag-to- resize functionality to a custom window (no decorations) style stack? I've been playing around and can't seem to come up with anything that works smoothly - any thoughts? Thanks, Mark

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Graham Samuel
Yes, but as the originator of this thread, what I'm after is drawing a curve from within a Rev-based standalone based on data which the program is handling, either generated by the program or input by the user, and then let the user print it out at full resolution. I would not want to licen

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread James Hurley
Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt Bernard Devlin bdrunrev at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 09:38:45 CST 2009 Previous message: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt Next message: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi Jim I w

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Graham Samuel
Me too. As a digest reader, I missed the recent eruptions on this topic, and I prefer to stick to a low level discussion which I hope may lead to short-term practical solutions (for example, could I import a vector graphic as a template and reshape it by script?). However I have voted for

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Graham Samuel wrote: Yes, but as the originator of this thread, what I'm after is drawing a curve from within a Rev-based standalone based on data which the program is handling, either generated by the program or input by the user, and then let the user print it out at full resolution. I wou

xTalk-ing curves…

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Hello all, I haven't read all of the posts on this topic (this morning) but one approach to xTalk-ing spline curves is to use the standard polygon points list syntax but with a twist. Instead of an unstructured comma delineated list of numbers (later to be parsed into x,y coordinate pair

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread René Micout
Hello Jim http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/BezierLine.rev = error !? René from Paris Le 2 févr. 09 à 16:51, James Hurley a écrit : Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt Bernard Devlin bdrunrev at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 09:38:45 CST 2009 Previous message: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attemp

Re: Another SQL question

2009-02-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
I will definitely give that a try. The odd thing is, the MySQL 5 reference manual makes absolutely NO mention of the IN clause. It would be AWESOME to have in my hot little hand a comprehensive syntax for MySQL. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Jan 31, 2009, at

Re: Another SQL question

2009-02-02 Thread Devin Asay
On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I will definitely give that a try. The odd thing is, the MySQL 5 reference manual makes absolutely NO mention of the IN clause. It would be AWESOME to have in my hot little hand a comprehensive syntax Bob, I rely heavily on O'Reilly's MySQL pock

Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Randall- Monday, February 2, 2009, 10:00:44 AM, you wrote: > This is the AI stuff from the Palm guy... correct? I have looked at > this. And yes, Jff Hawkins (co-author of On Intelligence) gets it! A lot of cognitive science at work here. And Bill Atkinson is on board as well. He bent my ear a

Re: Another SQL question

2009-02-02 Thread stephen barncard
Ha. That's right. It's in the MySQL online manual, buried in "11.2.3. Comparison Functions and Operators": IN()Check whether a value is within a set of values 2009/2/2 Bob Sneidar > > I will definitely give that a try. The odd thing is, the MySQL 5 reference > manual makes absolutely NO men

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Graham Samuel
Jim - thanks so much. I will be looking hard at this (I see later in the Digest that there is some issue with links, but I'm sure it will be sorted out - anyway I have to do a few other things before I can get back to this issue). Thanks also to Richard for the 'historical' explanation of g

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Brian Yennie
Randall, I have never asked for a game server. I dont build games... Have never even played one. On December 26th you started a thread asking how to build "real time multi-player interaction" using a "central server". That's generally called a game server. I was one of the people who spe

Re: Recover from Temp?

2009-02-02 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Tereza Snyder wrote: > Last time I upgraded my system, I got an extra hard drive so I could use > TimeMachine for just these kinds of circumstances. It has saved my butt > several times already! > Whilst I wouldn't argue against the use of TimeMachine, for those w

RE: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Reetz
No, there is a difference between what i have to do to get by right now, and the broader picture of user level programming. What hypertalk did for data base programming needs to be done now in current xtalk environs for the web. That is what i mean by limping into the present. How long has th

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Chipp Walters
Randall, Both Richard and Brian are longtime *contributing* community members. But it wasn't always so. At one time, both of them and many of us were like you-- new to Rev. Of course there were frustrations, but many people on this (and it's previous incarnation) list stopped what they were doing

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
*René Micout rmicout at online.fr wrote: */ / Hello Jim http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/BezierLine.rev = error !? René from Paris Some months ago I had encountered similar difficulties when trying to access Jim's

When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
I accidentally wrote a handler that called another handler that called the first one, which called the second one, which called the first one, which...you know, like that. It wasn't really recursion because each handler did a finite set of actions and didn't depend on the other. At any rate, th

Re: Another SQL question

2009-02-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
Wow! Not in my reference manual it's not. 11.2 is "Numeric Types". But then I downloaded the PDF manual. Seems that it is either out of date or not "exactly" correct. I also searched for IN() in the manual and came up with squadouch. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM

RE: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Reetz
By the way, i can see why i have confused you. I used the word "players" when i should have said "users". I was trying to emphasize the simultaneity of multiple user interaction on the same data across a network. If a game engine brings a programming for the rest of us interface to simple cli

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Bernard Devlin
Hi Jim I was interested to look at your solution, but only the 'compact' version is available (the link behind the 'Bezier Line' returns a 404). Regards, Bernard On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:02 PM, James Hurley wrote: > > Until Run Rev comes up with a true bezier graphic you may find that a > simu

RE: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Reetz
Well that is interesting because andrew Contacted me emediately and without request off list and shared his frustration and fear of the attacks on any suggestions for new features. This has happened several times with other users afraid of the backlash. I am contributing as a user. I answer

Re: Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Malte Brill
Mr. Reetz wrote: > Do you guys work for Putin? Forgot to take your Prozac today? I don´t get it... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preference

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Chipp Walters
Randall, I can tell you that, yes, I am a stakeholder in the success of Rev. I have invested no dollars, but have thousands of hours and many commercial projects, for clients and our own company at stake. So, I am *MOST INTERESTED* to see it succeed. Dan Shafer and myself have hosted 3 annual conf

re: Button Basher

2009-02-02 Thread Barry Barber
Hi Richmond You wrote >Thanks to Mark Swindell I have uploaded a new version of "BUTTON BASHER.rev" >to revOnline that allows (on Macintosh systems) end-users to set their own >colour gradients, >give it a go! >sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. - Thanks to you for another useful tool.

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
> Do you guys work for Putin? So we're already up to the random Commie name-calling, eh? Man, that didn't take long. Jeanne, have you started a betting pool as to when the first "Nazi" reference will be tossed in? Put me down for "Within 5 posts" for $20. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth Wo

Re: drag-resize stack

2009-02-02 Thread DunbarX
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Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread chris livermore
I just finished watching the 'Six Feet Under' series and am in need of a new drama. But, Hey, can someone get married or have a baby or something? To much of the dark-side happening! Or maybe we should just end this series too! cheers chris On 03/02/2009, at 9:39 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

RE: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Reetz
I have never asked for a game server. I dont build games... Have never even played one. Secondly, yes i do keep hoping and praying and asking for features that would extend the original user-level programming ethos of allan kay and bill atkenson to the modern world we live in. Sockets are to

Big issue with Rev

2009-02-02 Thread DunbarX
I am having a problem. I made a utility stack. Just like in my HC environment. Its stack script is in use. In this stack I have an openCard handler that is intended to display information about other stacks on the fly, a list of card objects, for example. I have a two card test stack with a fie

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Bernard Devlin
Thanks Jim, it's a very interesting stack. I think I may have a need for similar functionality in a future application. Hopefully it is of some use to Graham too. Bernard On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:51 PM, James Hurley wrote: > > Bernard, > > Sorry about that. I should have checked the link. Bee

Re: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread James Hurley
Message: 4 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:23:56 +0100 From: Graham Samuel Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Dear list I sent this mail a few days ago, and unless I misse

using open office to open CSV files (was launch document problems)

2009-02-02 Thread Sadhunathan Nadesan
Hi OpenOffice works great on CSV. You have to use the CSV file choice though or it doesn't bring up the wizard. I will send a screen shot direct (this mailing list doesn't support that) so you can see what I mean. I just scroll down until I see the SLK which is easy to spot amidst the huge ple

Re: Big issue with Rev

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
DunbarX- Monday, February 2, 2009, 3:11:23 PM, you wrote: > I am having a problem. > I made a utility stack. Just like in my HC environment. Its stack script is > in use. In this stack I have an openCard handler that is intended to display > information about other stacks on the fly, a list of c

Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
This is the AI stuff from the Palm guy... correct? I have looked at this. And yes, Jff Hawkins (co-author of On Intelligence) gets it! Compression in this context means the reduction towards general or prototypical forms that are then stored with modifiers that enumerate the delta between

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Smith
Randall, wondering aloud about features is welcome (at least as far as I'm concerned, and I'm sure to most of us), it's just that phrases like "limp xtalk into the present' come off as kind of confrontational. The general style on this list is very much non- confrontational - you wouldn't be

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Mark, I wrote it (self-optimizing multi-threading) in SuperTalk... but the script is standard. Will look for it and post it when I find it. Requires a rather extensive use of the "on idle" handler and some rethinking of how one goes about writing looped control structures. As for raised

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread Devin Asay
On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I accidentally wrote a handler that called another handler that called the first one, which called the second one, which called the first one, which...you know, like that. It wasn't really recursion because each handler did a finite set of ac

Re: Launch document problems

2009-02-02 Thread Bernard Devlin
Hi Scott, I've got a few suggestions (I've experienced a few peculiarities with 'launch document' at various times). The problem with my suggestions is that they are not as simply cross-platform as the basic 'launch' command. If you are only dealing with Windows, then this should not be a problem

RE: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Reetz
Ok, why then is asking for code addressable and rev native curves responded to as a threatening request? -Original Message- From: "Chipp Walters" To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: 2/2/2009 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt Randall, I can tell you that,

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Me too! In the same way, I have invested a career using xtalk. This is why I so often weigh in on modernizing xtalk and bringing it into the now. Look at the market share for Flex, Flash, Java, even Director... and compare this to the xtalk market share. Now, do you think this has some

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread Jim Ault
If there is an error window displayed when you start a script, and that window is hidden behind another, then it stays behind. On the Mac (Panther or later I believe) you can use Exposé to show the windows the app or all windows of all apps. In this case, clicking on the error dialog thumnail wil

Re: Big issue with Rev

2009-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
dunb...@aol.com wrote: I don't suppose "/REVEXCLUDED02" means anything to anyone? I all of a sudden have a terrible feeling that "HC on steroids" notwithstanding, I am going to have issues getting this going. I am depressed. No, never heard of it. But what is the name of your utility stack? I

Re: Another SQL question

2009-02-02 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I highly recommend the various cheat sheets from Visibone . I have their Browser book which covers HTML, CSS & JavaScript and I find it invaluable when you just need to check a tag or function. They have PHP & MySQL cards & posters too, so if you are after a quick referenc

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Devin Asay wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I accidentally wrote a handler that called another handler that called the first one, which called the second one, which called the first one, which...you know, like that. It wasn't really recursion because each handler did a

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Ault wrote: If there is an error window displayed when you start a script, and that window is hidden behind another, then it stays behind. On the Mac (Panther or later I believe) you can use Exposé to show the windows the app or all windows of all apps. In this case, clicking on the error d

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Brian Yennie
Ok, why then is asking for code addressable and rev native curves responded to as a threatening request? It wasn't. I've re-read the thread about 3 times just to make sure I didn't miss anything. Richard suggested Flex as an alternative. Scott gave some thoughtful input including his own f

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Devin Asay wrote: This has happened to me several times in Rev 3.0, but I've never been able to pin it down to a recipe. It's almost like what happens when a running script throws an error and kicks you into debug mode, and you try to do things with the interface, but nothing works. ... It's

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque, Devin- Monday, February 2, 2009, 4:46:35 PM, you wrote: >> interrupted. It's almost like you really are in debug mode but the >> interface hasn't been updated to reflect that. Like you, I seem to >> notice it happen when handlers are calling handlers are calling >> handlers, in differen

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque, Devin- Monday, February 2, 2009, 4:46:35 PM, you wrote: interrupted. It's almost like you really are in debug mode but the interface hasn't been updated to reflect that. Like you, I seem to notice it happen when handlers are calling handlers are calling handlers, i

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:20:21 PM, you wrote: > Easy peasy. Be prepared to force-quit, and don't have any other real > work open when you try this. Make a stack with 2 fields, and name them > "fldOne" and "fldTwo". Put this into the card script: Interesting. It pegged *both* my cpus a

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:40:58 PM, you wrote: > I wish. Nothing is active or clickable, and I can't type into the > message box. The IDE is also unresponsive, so none of the toolbar icons > or menus work either. :( > "It's dead, Jim." Yeah. I found that after trying your example. But

Re: When should cmd-period work?

2009-02-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Monday, February 2, 2009, 5:20:21 PM, you wrote: Easy peasy. Be prepared to force-quit, and don't have any other real work open when you try this. Make a stack with 2 fields, and name them "fldOne" and "fldTwo". Put this into the card script: Interesting. It pegged

RE: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Randall Reetz
I made humble suggestions. For things like curved graphics and web integration. Two things that are hardly radical in 2009!. Then the Skinarian conditioning begins. Again, i have just concluded a phone call with another person who said they have long ago learned to be scared and quiet on the

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Brian Yennie
Randall, This is one of the most accepting, helpful lists I've ever been on (and I've been on many). If anyone other than Randall really feels silenced, I would love for them to speak up. I hope you will accept my invitation to get back to the features you'd like to discuss. I for one wou

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Judy Perry
Randall, Ask the active people on the list who they might consider to be a troll/person with a big mouth/etc., and MY NAME will ALMOST CERTAINLY come up. Really. OTOH, when I have a problem/question, many of these same people will drop what they are doing to answer an honest request for assistanc

Re: Subject: Drawing a curved shape - 2nd attempt

2009-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry wrote: For instance, every time the issue of how to play multiple simultaneous sounds comes up, you WILL find me lamenting the lack of HC's sound channels in Rev. Guaranteed. I believe that it is a much better solution than using player objects. But I respect that Richard Gaskin like