On 01/05/2010 04:34, Kay C Lan wrote:
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Peter Alcibiades
palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Some very wise comments on this issue:
Yes, many of the reader 'comments' made about this article are very wise.
Unfortunately the article itself seems to be written
Adobe must be sweating:
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-looks-to-a-future-of-h-264-based-html5-for-web-video-content/
Well; happy RunRev developers; it is proabbaly better in the long run if
Flash becomes less all-pervasive,
especially if the revWeb plugin for Linux can get
The article starts out by endorsing Jobs' criticism of Flash and agreeing
with him that the problem with Flash is that it is proprietary, and that an
Internet in which much of the content is coded in a proprietary format which
requires a particular software package from one vendor to access it,
I guess someone else agrees with Apple:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-will-not-support-flash.aspx
What a hoot :-))
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On 01/05/2010 10:34, Kay C Lan wrote:
I guess someone else agrees with Apple:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-will-not-support-flash.aspx
What a hoot :-))
Is that person's name really Hachamovitch?
Hack - em - over - itch.
Must be the lack of sleep last night
I don't like or approve of Flash either! But it is hilarious to see the
people who are opposing it and why. To an outside observer it seems like
MS, Adobe, Apple are all about as alike as Coke and Pepsi on this one.
Maybe Apple is a bit worse but there's not much in it.
HTML5 is not open.
If this were April 1st I'd certainly think you were on to something, but a
Google search of 'Dean Hachamovitch' reveals he really is who they say he
is.
Bye Bye Flash... Almost seems like a Tech Lynching. Now let me guess,
there'll be a whole bunch of rumours surrounding this event, followed by
Hello,
I am missing some Mac know-how. I tried different zip tools and with all my
locked file (inside a bundle) is unlocked after having the bundle zipped and
unzipped. So obviously it is not a matter of ditto, but of the system.
So Marks advice to set the locked of the file by program after
I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with
Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this still
the case?
Best Regards,
Sakari Ruoho
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On 01/05/2010 12:45, Sakari Ruoho wrote:
I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with
Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this
still the case?
The documentation says that one can run RunRev on SPARC, HP-UX, SCO Open
DeskTop, Silicon Graphics
Ok :D
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
On 01/05/2010 12:45, Sakari Ruoho wrote:
I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with
Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this
still the case?
The documentation says that one can run RunRev on SPARC, HP-UX, SCO
On May 1, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Adobe must be sweating:
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-looks-to-a-future-of-h-264-based-html5-for-web-video-content/
Not really. By saying that only H.264 is support, they mean that they are not
going to directly support
On May 1, 2010, at 3:34 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:
I guess someone else agrees with Apple:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-will-not-support-flash.aspx
What a hoot :-))
That article has been quoted all over the place, and fortunately most of the
debate has been
On 01/05/2010 15:10, Colin Holgate wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Adobe must be sweating:
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-looks-to-a-future-of-h-264-based-html5-for-web-video-content/
Not really. By saying that only H.264 is support, they mean
Hello,
since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file, when
zipping, I am now trying to follow Marks plan B, but am shipwrecking without
Mac experience.
I have the rev path of my file like: /foo/myfile in myFile. I have an
oneliner applescript set the locked of myFile to
Le 1 mai 2010 à 14:50, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit :
Hello,
since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file,
Hi Tiemo,
This command did work for me on Snow Leopard :
ditto -v -rsrcFork /source /destination
I could keep all hidden and immutable flags !
HTH
Regards,
2010/5/1 Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de:
Hello,
since I don't find a way how to preserve the lock status of a file, when
zipping, I am now trying to follow Marks plan B, but am shipwrecking without
Mac experience.
I have the rev path of my file like: /foo/myfile in myFile. I have
2010/5/1 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com:
On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:04 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:
However the Data Grid command AddData does more than a simple
creation of a new index in an array. This is where I'm suspicious with
my code.
AddData has to update any caches that are created
Oddly enough I see that RunRev are still marketing their
revMobile (which I understand to work with Windows mobile
as well as the iPhone OS):
We will be introducing a brand new product, revMobile,
which will initially support Maemo, Windows Mobile,
the iPhone and iPad.
However, as far as I can
Dear Richmond,
I think it is possible to create application for iPad without putting it into
the App Store.
For my own it is enough... My application (my project are not to be sold)
But how many people (here) make application
1. for themselves
2. directly for a company (App store not
In 1987 this was the primary purpose of HyperCard (oh Bill [Atkinson] where are
you !?)
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:02, René Micout a écrit :
Dear Richmond,
I think it is possible to create application for iPad without putting it into
the App Store.
For my own it is enough... My application (my
On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
I think it is possible to create application for iPad without putting it into
the App Store.
While that is true, it would also break the SDK agreement. The agreement
doesn't say that you can only use certain
Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone
application called PhotoCard :-)
http://www.billatkinson.com/aboutPhotoCard.html
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I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is
not possible.
I think it is a juridic debat...
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:24, Colin Holgate a écrit :
On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
I think it is possible to create application
On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is
not possible.
I think it is a juridic debat...
Perhaps Europe could sue Apple like they sued Microsoft!
Yes, I know, but in French Où es-tu ... ? is an expression to invoque
somebody to remind the present greatness of the past...
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:29, Mark Schonewille a écrit :
Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone application
called PhotoCard :-)
If I develop MY application for MY iPad and if I dont put it into the App
Store, Apple cannot do anything against me
The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and
Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation...
How can they do otherwise ?
And if I do that and Apple make me a procedure. In France (it is not USA) the
court, if I am wrong, condamn me, perhaps, ONE euro (symbolistic) in damages...
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:40, René Micout a écrit :
If I develop MY application for MY iPad and if I dont put it into the App
Store, Apple
On May 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and
Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation...
How can they do otherwise ?
They can change the iPhone OS to not
On 01/05/2010 17:36, Colin Holgate wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, René Micoutrene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is
not possible.
I think it is a juridic debat...
Perhaps Europe could sue Apple like they sued
On 01/05/2010 17:48, Colin Holgate wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, René Micoutrene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and
Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation...
How can they do otherwise
In some areas (mainly trade), it is true that multinationals are sometimes more
powerful than states, but in other cases (and freedom is part of it) states
and their legislation is far more powerful than the companies .
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
On 01/05/2010 17:36,
For now, I dont see the color of an iPad...
:-) or :-(
at the end of this month ?)
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:58, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
On 01/05/2010 17:48, Colin Holgate wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, René Micoutrene.mic...@numericable.com wrote:
The only possibility for Apple to
I guess someone else agrees with Apple:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/173519,microsoft-announces-ie9-w
ill-not-support-flash.aspx
I could be wrong, but I believe several sites are quoting this link:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/04/29/html5-video.aspx
I don't think he is saying
On May 1, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Sakari Ruoho wrote:
I still see that the RunRev website advertises that it works with
Oracle. Last time I checked this was far from the thruth. Is this still
the case?
What version of Rev do you have? Integrated support for Oracle database
connectivity is only
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/30/microsoft-looks-to-a-future-of-h-2
64-based-html5-for-web-video-content/
Not really. By saying that only H.264 is support, they mean
that they are not going to directly support other HTML5 video
formats, such as Ogg Vorbis ones. Flash video, On2VP6,
Bon soir Thierry,
your proposal seems to be half the way.
Doing it your way, ditto creates a folder as the output, containing the app
and the file within the app is still locked. That looks good, beside the
output is a normal folder and isn't a zip file anymore. Using the parameter
Ditto -c - k
If Messrs Jobs and Gates (et al) really cared about
open standards for the internet and so on, they would
not be restricting Flash or code-bases; quite the
opposite; they would be falling over each other to
implement support for absolutely everything -
whether proprietary (such as Flash) or open
On 1 May 2010, at 08:55, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
HTML5 is not open. Its a different flavor of proprietary, by the
way. H264
is proprietary.
H264 is proprietary, but h264 is NOT part of HTML5. HTML5 just
specifies a video tag without specifying the type of video.
HTML5 is no more
On 01/05/2010 19:24, Ian Wood wrote:
On 1 May 2010, at 08:55, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
HTML5 is not open. Its a different flavor of proprietary, by the
way. H264
is proprietary.
H264 is proprietary, but h264 is NOT part of HTML5. HTML5 just
specifies a video tag without specifying the
Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android.
Pete Haworth
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But what about iPad ?
Le 1 mai 2010 à 19:09, Peter Haworth a écrit :
Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android.
Pete Haworth
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Colin Holgate wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout wrote:
I think it is possible to create application for iPad without
putting it into the App Store.
While that is true, it would also break the SDK agreement. The
agreement doesn't say that you can only use certain languages
On 01/05/2010 20:09, Peter Haworth wrote:
Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android.
Pete Haworth
Can we?
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On 01/05/2010 20:12, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Colin Holgate wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 10:02 AM, René Micout wrote:
I think it is possible to create application for iPad without
putting it into the App Store.
While that is true, it would also break the SDK agreement. The
agreement doesn't
Mark-
Saturday, May 1, 2010, 7:29:52 AM, you wrote:
Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone
application called PhotoCard :-)
http://www.billatkinson.com/aboutPhotoCard.html
Bill's also *very* involved with Numenta:
http://www.numenta.com/
but when I talked with him a
Graham-
Friday, April 30, 2010, 10:34:00 PM, you wrote:
In the first rev lesson on externals at
http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/buckets/784/lessons/7116-How-to-safely-attach-an-external-to-your-stack,
after saving the stack this statement is issued:
send revert to me in 5 ticks --
don't you guys get it? Adobe is the biggest creep in techdom. Do you remember
how they screwed apple over post script? They are the patent hogs who have
stymied computational evolution for 30 years. The only company worse then
them was micromedia and adobe acquired flash by buying them
I'd love to use it. However, Jerry does not make a version for Linux, and
has no intention of doing so. Meanwhile, over on Planet Python, there are
lots of fabulous editors that don't crash on cut and paste. Maybe Jerry's
is better than any of them, probably is.
But they exist for my OS,
Hi Devin,
I got Rev Enterprise.
This is an old mail chain, which I just did revive today. Some info
should be available if you track back the chain.
BR,
Sakari Ruoho
Devin Asay wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Sakari Ruoho wrote:
I still see that the RunRev website advertises that
Le 1 mai 2010 à 17:47, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit :
Bon soir Thierry,
your proposal seems to be half the way.
Bonsoir Tiemo,
So, did check with your specs.
add a bundle folder in my dir, hide and lock a test file inside the bundle
folder
and did this :
-- create a zip file keeping all
On 01/05/2010 22:23, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
don't you guys get it? Adobe is the biggest creep in techdom. Do you remember
how they screwed apple over post script? They are the patent hogs who have
stymied computational evolution for 30 years. The only company worse then
them was
There has been a number of threads about Apple and revMobile that really
tempted be to go trolling and flaming...
I have let some time pass, and I think it is time to reverse the question and
forget about Steve Jobs.
The topic is: one of the reasons of the success of the iPhone is the AppStore.
Speed and standards.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361444,00.asp
All the 'stuff' that we have been chewing over re Steve Jobs, Apple, Adobe
and, now Internet Explorer 9, come down to Speed and standards.
The question is not really about Apple's, Adobe's or Microsoft's motivation
Richmond asked Can we?:
On 01/05/2010 20:09, Peter Haworth wrote:
Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android.
Pete Haworth
Can we?
Yes, we can (someday, maybe). Rev's FAQ used to say not at this time,
but we will keep an eye on it. Now, it says We do intend to support
Android
François Chaplais wrote:
What does RunRev do to promote, distribute and sell software that
has been developed with revolution? I mean the traditional stuff:
desktop applications.
The answer: nothing (as far as I know).
What are RevOnline and RevSelect?
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Graham Heather Harrison wrote:
In the first rev lesson on externals at
http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/buckets/784/lessons/7116-How-to-safely-attach-an-external-to-your-stack,
after saving the stack this statement is issued:
send revert to me in 5 ticks -- the equivalent of quit then
Le 1 mai 2010 à 23:24, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
François Chaplais wrote:
What does RunRev do to promote, distribute and sell software that
has been developed with revolution? I mean the traditional stuff:
desktop applications.
The answer: nothing (as far as I know).
What are
Standards only work to the extent that they apply protocol at the most
effective strata in the stack. When adobe restricts graphics protocol that
should live down near the lower reaches of the OS or below, to above the
application level, they create an unstable and ultimately untenable
RevSelect is really about add-ons to Rev.
I considered opening a stack store and ran the business case. A lot of work and
sizable risk. Still can't get it out of my head,tho. I would be as dictatorial
as Steve Jobs, probably.
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Harsh.
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On May 1, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Randall Lee Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote:
Standards only work to the extent that they apply protocol at the most
effective strata
To look at photshop or illustrator as chronos as perfect form in their
categories is like looking to some awkward plated dinosaur as pattern for the
future of land animals. If the target of open source is restricted to the
application layer we should expect nothing more than crippled
François Chaplais wrote:
RevOnline (the one I know from studio) requires revolution and has
a crappy interface. Plus you cannot do business there.
http://revonline2.runrev.com/ : just have a look at the top downloads
and the the screen shot: it's ugly. Plus it does not sell.
I assume
Hi Scott,
Scott Rossi wrote:
I've built many music and video players over the years with RunRev.
The one major limitation you will find is that media support will be
limited to
those media that are supported by Apple's QuickTime (and QT must be
installed on the user's system).
[snip]
I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that
when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the
image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every setting that
allows underlaying objects to show through the white bounding box of my
jpeg -
Hi Shani,
Shani-2 wrote:
Hi, thanks for your reply.
You are welcome! :-)
Shani-2 wrote:
I am talking about trucks, fields, plants.
Simulation. Trucks bids to the field or plant and go for loading, etc.
A simulation like Harvest Moon or FarmVille?
No, i have not seen anything
Hi all,
As soon as I have started to study seriously the Data Grid object, I
fallen in love for it.
Again, a big thanks to Trevor to have built this powerful object!
The last week, I have found time to really work on it in my Lab.
I started to try different things, and step by step I built a
Mark Wieder wrote:
Try looking in the externals instead of the externalPackages.
It wasn't me looking in the externalPackages, Guv. Honest to God. Never went
near 'em. Swelp me.
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Also, adobe isn't doing any of its code donkeys any favors when it under
exploits the market through old world protectionist business practices and an
avoidance of future looking technology. As with retirement pools, an entity
will never be able to sustain old obligations on the profits of old
Marty Knapp wrote:
I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed that
when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy that the
image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every setting that
allows underlaying objects to show through the white
Graham-
Saturday, May 1, 2010, 5:03:01 PM, you wrote:
Mark Wieder wrote:
Try looking in the externals instead of the externalPackages.
It wasn't me looking in the externalPackages, Guv. Honest to God. Never went
near 'em. Swelp me.
Hmmm. You sure we're looking at the same lesson?
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When people look at a tool like Rev they
want to see there's a sizable afternarket as an indicator of viability.
So it benefits RunRev more than anyone else to improve the
presentation of third-party offerings all over their site.
But with caution. I'm in favor of
I was afraid of that. Oh well - thanks for letting me know.
Marty
Marty Knapp wrote:
I'm trying to print a card with a jpeg image on it and have noticed
that when I set the Ink to anything other than the standard srcCopy
that the image quality suffers noticeably. I think I tired every
My boys made games like that when they were younger! lol - that brings
back some funny memories.
Marty
I confess though, in retrospect I really do wish I'd saved a copy of
Man Gets Beheaded By a Ceiling Fan. You had to be there.
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something I do quite often and I really hate that there's no real good IDE
for it. Anyway, last weekend I decided to put one together in Rev... just
something simple that had syntax highlighting and would allow me to
VERY cool!
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On May 1, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone else here also happens to program in Erlang, but it's
something I do
Jacque and Mark (W)
I started with the lesson I quoted but sort of diverged and only had a small
section of the code. By the time I posted the question on revert I was more
interested in just that, than the full externals bit.
Jacque: I was wondering in the back of my mind how rev could
Great short article that I believe accurately describes the corporate culture
behind Apple's platform lock down.
Mark Bernstein: Platform Control
http://www.markbernstein.org/Apr10/PlatformControl.html
(via Instapaper)
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