On 12/14/06, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dave,
You might be interested in two links:
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/dply002.htm
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Tutorials.htm
Ken and Chipp provide there amazing tutorials about how to create and
Hi Richard,
Scott's right. Chris tells me it is too difficult to create an easy to use
USB driver. The reason is the data you receive is binary and there is huge
amounts of it. So, for each device, you would need to write your own bit
parser and figure out the data stream, effectively doing a
Or...
putting it another way...
You'd think in this day and age, Apple would make Safari a compliant
browser, especially since Mozilla Firefox is open source, works on Macs and
complies to the latest standards (perhaps it may even be considered the
standard at this point).
Guess it depends upon
Brian,
Not necessary to get all worked up. I was just responding to Stephen's
comment about not working with Safari.
And yes, here at Altuit we do have LOTS OF EXPERIENCE WITH SAFARI and Macs.
In fact, too much. Turns out every darn dot release, Apple changes WebKit
another bit and throws poor
On 11/30/06, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
As far as Morfik being a startup, and you aren't comfortable with
that, and you don't like the license, fine. I understand where you're
at. I just don't think your position is typical. Maybe I'm wrong.
It wouldn't be the first time.
/SNIP
If you haven't updated your externals lately, you might want to quickly grab
the latest versions of altSQLite and altBrowser from the Demos as they will
cease working after Dec
1.http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altbrowser/MacBrowser2UB.zip
Today is the very last day you can purchase altBrowser,
OOPS, our site is locked. Give it 30 minutes and it will be ready.
On 11/30/06, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you haven't updated your externals lately, you might want to quickly
grab the latest versions of altSQLite and altBrowser from the Demos as they
will cease working after
BTW,
Talking with Chris today, he mentioned he checked a Morfik a bit, and wants
to look at it further. He compared it to a web-based version of FileMaker or
Access. He said it creates standalone .exe's and ALSO uploads files to
existing web servers as well.
He thought it was pretty interesting
I think it depends on the industry. The lest tech-savvy a customer is, the
less likely a client will want to deploy a solution to that customer that
requires downloading anything.
Perhaps. I've had pretty good experience showing clients a
competitor's web app, then something like i-Tunes.
Adrian,
Here's a handler to load a font named fred.ttf located in the default folder.
on loadFont pFont
if / is not in pFont then
-- pFont IS NOT FULL PATHNAME SO MUST CREATE FULLPATH
put the defaultFolder into tPath
put tPath / pFont into pFont
end if
-- NOW LOAD THE FONT
XLOAD_FONT
My guess is Scott is creating his own custom scroller for groups.
On 11/28/06, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I think I missed something early on: Since what's being scrolled is
a group, what's wrong with just using the group's scrollbars?
Thanks Mark. Good one.
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Wow!
too cool!
On 11/28/06, Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Take a look at the following URL:
http://www.creysoft.com/jscard/stack.php?stack=1
Definitely a Work In Progress, but it fits with
Andre's model of translating Rev stacks to web pages.
Isn't that what altBrowser does?
On 11/28/06, Jerry Muelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about building an interface to make web things run in Revolution? In
other words, don't map group to DIV to make Rev scripts run on the
web, but map DIV to group to make web scripts run in Rev. I think if
Hi John,
Actually the behavior is correct. If you declare a local variable
OUTSIDE the other handlers of an object, it will stay persistent and
is accessible to all handlers/functions for that object.
This has some nifty benefits. It allows you to create persistent
variables, which aren't
Hi Bill,
altSplash is an unsupported splash screen architecture I provide for
free. It works with the supported (and commercial) MagicCarpet, which
is version control for files and works as a plugin within Rev.
You can learn about altSplash at:
Hi Mark,
see below for answers:
On 11/26/06, Mark Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, a couple of questions
-1- Cursor idiosynracies:
Rev's built-in cursors aren't available (e.g. instead of hand and busy,
I get the hourglass). How do I ensure that cursors port over correctly
when a
On 11/25/06, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A third party Helper Builder system would be very welcome in RevSelect if
someone is interested in developing it.
We've got a Rev stack based Help System built within Hemingway, our
Content Management System which build websites. Hemingway
I'm with Mikey. I finally broke down and forwarded all my email
addresses to my Gmail account. Most of you don't know I do this
because gmail can be configured for any reply-to address. My
[EMAIL PROTECTED] email address has been around for hundreds of years,
and is probably on every SPAM list
JBV,
No one ever said being on the improve-list was a function of being
qualified. It's a forum where Enterprise users can discuss issues
amongst themselves and at times also with Kevin and the programmers.
To join it, the prerequisite is an Enterprise user license.
Frankly, IMHO, this list is
On 11/18/06, Kresten Bjerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
The notion that you cant save changes to a standalone, without
complicated operations, is wrong. You cant save changes to the
mainstack of a standalone, but all the changes you want in its substacks
Sorry Kresten,
You are mistaken. You
Mikey,
Try Googling:
Jeanne Devoto HyperCard
You may see she has more to say on the subject than even Danny.
At 5:21 PM -0500 11/15/2006, Mikey wrote:
Since HT was the original root of this tree, I think it's a little
unreasonable to say that it's incorrect or a mistake, unless Bill
Dang! You are correct. I've seen something extremely similar done in Flash
and just expected it was the same.
On 11/15/06, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you sure about that? The sys reqs say it requires Java and the
browser
status reports it's loading an applet when starting up.
Hi Richard,
In fact, I have built a number of U3 apps and tried posting them to U3's
Software Central. Lynn was kind enough to point me to 'the guy' there, but
after an initial unsuccessful exchange, repeated attempts to contact him
have gone unanswered. That, and a dearth of information on how
Richard,
I respectfully disagree with some of the points made.
Dave specifically stated:
The problem is that when they read the sales small print (in this case)
and see support is not included.
I believe he was referring to his company's Enterprise developers and
management when he said
Yep, Dave seems to confuse the concept of upgrades vs support. He tends to
use them interchangeably, when arguably, they are not.
On 11/15/06, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suppose so, but I didn't write about Rev's support.
I replied to the comments about upgrade fees:
On 11/15/06, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.visualthesaurus.com/
Now, that's pretty potent stuff.
Is the window that opens up technically a new application or a plug in
I suppose you know, it's a Flash swf file. You can create standalone Flash
apps as well as embedded
On 11/15/06, Kay C Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
On 11/15/06, Lynn Fredricks reponded:
Aha, that would be telling! ;-)
Lynn responded to Sarah with:
Its not telling the whole story there :-)
Give it a day or two, I'm sure Lynn will point us to the answer over at the
rev forums ;-)
On 11/15/06, Cal Horner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The minor problem you will have is figuring out the glue code required to
stick the two together
I'm not so sure how 'minor' that problem is...Have you done it with Rev?
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Nice to see you back! :-)
On 11/12/06, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice to be back BTW
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Mikey,
IMO, it's never a good thing to modify any of the IDE code. I have many free
(and for sale) plugins for Rev, and none of them ever modify the IDE. You
can always use frontscripts and/or backscripts to get just about anything
done you wish.
best,
Chipp
On 11/11/06, Mikey [EMAIL
Quick and dirty way:
on mouseUp
go inv stack answer Dialog
set the loc of stack answer Dialog to the screenloc
show stack Answer Dialog
answer hello
end mouseUp
On 11/7/06, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the correct syntax to tell Rev where to place a dialog window?
Well, most of you probably have already read the latest news, but I thought
I could add our take on things.
Today we announced the imminent sale of three of our best selling add-ons to
Runtime Revolution.
The three products are altBrowser, altSQLite, and altFont. All are externals
which enhance
OK Wilhelm.
How about this then,
on mouseUp
put the short name of the topStack into tStack
go inv stack answer Dialog
set the loc of stack answer Dialog to 200,200
show stack Answer Dialog
answer Choose a color with red or green or blue
set the defaultStack to tStack
set the backcolor of fld 1
Kay,
Isn't there a simpler recipe...like open up BBEdit, select text, copy, then
paste into fld text?
Frankly, I'm not sure I even understand where the bug lies, the failure to
copy the text by Rev, or the failure of Automator to put the text on the
clipboard in a timely matter?
If I were you,
Kay,
Can you paste via the menu? If so, then I imagine there is a problem with
the key shortcut, which would be an IDE bug and you could create a
frontscript plugin to override (if you really had to have this functionality
now). If you cannot paste via the menu, then perhaps you can put in the
On 11/9/06, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking of clipboards, I'm having some trouble in Windows. I found that
if I have something on the clipboard and then I do some other action in
the OS -- like launching an application -- the clipboard gets emptied.
For example, I had some
Luis,
Yes, it is obvious you are new here, otherwise you would already know who
Jacque is and exactly how MUCH she has given to this community. Besides the
best tech support responses, she has also given freely of her time helping
on numerous occasions, including organizing, preparing and
Wow, so it appears Luis is taking time to admonish Rev Support based on
another person's experience, even though his own experience has been
documented as more than reasonable (by Rev's standards). I certainly do not
intone Luis to be the most decadent newbie, only perhaps an ill-informed
one.
Nicely worded post Bernard. Sometimes it's easier to criticize than
recognize. Good job.
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I'm really not sure what the purpose of your publicized issue is, unless
you're just trolling for negative responses. I'd have assumed you have
received enough of them by now.
AFAIK, and I've been active with RR for many, many years, there are no fewer
or greater 'delayed bug fixes' than there
Sivakatirswami,
You might try pre-caching the go next.
I typically go to each card on startup (screen locked) to make sure they are
all cached. Of course with a very big stack it's not possible, but might be
wise to try and think of some sort of intelligent pre-cache.
-Chipp
You can always roll your own as well.
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Yes, there are also other rev props which can be 'cleaned' from a stack with
no side-effects. In fact, my altClean plugin regularly saves 50% or more of
stacks when I save them.
If you haven't yet tried it, put this in the message box:
go URL
Hi Paul,
If you use the Geometry Manager to manage resizing of stacks, then you don't
want to delete the cREVGeometry prop set. It is only set if/when you are
using Geometry Manager. Sometimes, you may have tried GM and decided not to
use it, but the GM prop sets are still there. In those cases
BTW, this one is super easy to replicate:
Launch Rev 2.7.x
Create a new stack
add a button
close the stack by clicking the X button upper right in the titlebar
Rev asks you if you want to save, say Don't Save
Revolution is now suspended and another app comes to the forefront.
If anyone has a
Hi Jacque,
Hmmm. I'm not sure exactly what 'move as one as if there were a backdrop
set' means. Does it mean when you drag one window, all of them move? Or,
does it mean they all stay on the same layer?
Trevor, offlist, recently filed this bug showing this exact behavior:
Hi Bridger,
No, it does NOT install the font permanently, only while the app is open.
-Chipp
On 11/1/06, Bridger Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, that looks like the exact thing I was looking for. Just a question,
does it actually install the font? I don't mind it if does I guess, but
I'm going to have to agree with Dave and Trevor. I've always thought
destroyStack comes into play only when closing stacks. If set to true, the
stack is purged from memory (usually). I pretty much always use an explicit
'delete stack xyz' when I want to make sure a mainstack is closed.
And like
Just to second what Dave says.
For many of my apps where I 'load a document', I 'go' the stack, copy the
necessary data from it, then 'delete stack xyz' in order to permanently
remove it from memory. I don't like leaving inv data stacks in memory for a
number of reasons: 1) larger memory
Anyone know why backdrops no longer hide the taskbar in 2.7+ on Win XP?
Is there a particular reason for the change?
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I seem to remember a thread somewhere regarding this subject, but can't find
it. Was it Trevor who was noticing that frequently in XP when a window
closes, the application is suspended and another window is brought to the
front? This happens religiously on a couple of my apps and is disconcerting
Hi Jiro,
You application looks very nice! I'll be sure and check it out.
-Chipp
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Another way to consider doing this is to turn OFF the windowShape property
while resizing, then after resizing is finished, calculate a new windowshape
and apply it at that time. A lot of pain to go through. Or perhaps tunring
OFF liveResizing and then 'snapping to' a size to a predetermined
Bill,
In the past, I have turned off decorations and created my own window moving
and resizing handlers-- of course optimizing for speed. This approach still
forces square corners, but with some creative interface design, it can look
pretty nice.
For instance:
I'm not ready to jump on Bill, for IMO, there is some value to what he has
to say.
Here are some simple facts. To my knowledge, many of the professional
developers making a living scripting, are not doing it in Rev 2.7.x-- yet. I
know I'm not. The script editor, for the way I program, is just
As a fellow Windows user, I thought I might lend some insight into some of
the issues.
On 10/20/06, Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- The installer introduced in 2.7 is horrible. It installs desktop
shortcuts
that point nowhere. The file associations are busted. It doesn't perform
Chris,
We have a version of altSubversion (the altuit external for the
opensource subversion document/code management software) lying around
somewhere. It's super easy to script and takes a lot of the work out
of having to manage files (like MGC has to do). Try contacting chris
at Altuit and I
David,
Try this:
set the width of this stack to 300
send resizeStack to this stack
You need to 'send' the message for it to work.
that will do the necessary resizing for you. Another VERY helpful tip
on WinXP is to right-click the desktop choose properties to show the
Display Properties panel,
Bill,
That wouldn't work as there are more than one p in a field with multiple cr's.
JBV, I think I would need more information about what you're trying to
do. If you're talking about strict HTML, then of course as previously
mentioned, checking for html in the string should work. If you're
Hi David,
I've found the best way is to create an image from your text-- black
on white, then gaussian blur it using a Sanke library call (I actually
use my own but Wilhelm figured out how to do convolution matrix math
even faster), then set it as an alpha channel for a solid colored
image
On 10/4/06, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heck, if we're just counting total downloads since the product was
launched then WebMerge has about half a million users. :)
And if we're counting hits to our website (www.buttongadget.com), then
ButtonGadget has over 1 million users.
Damn,
We're putting the final touches on ThoughtOffice which is the 3rd
generation of IdeaFisher. It will run on both Mac and PC. It's in beta
testing now...http://www.thoughtoffice.com/
The 2nd generation toolkit was called eXpertSystem and can be found at
www.richcontent.com.
In both cases, the
Oh, and we did recently finish a project for an unamed client who
shipped over 45,000 pieces on first release. As soon as we can mention
it, we will create a case study. Chris did most of the programming-- I
just contributed a bit on the printing end of things. It turned out
really nice as a RAD
On 10/1/06, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. How can I make sure that the i-beam cursor is visible in a text
field? I am tweaking a windows version of a Mac app, and sometimes
the i-beam is there and sometimes it isn't. I compared the fields in
question and they seem identical -
I think GIF export has been in Rev for sometime now. GIF import has
always worked (to my knowledge).
best, Chipp
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How ironic. Greenpeace targets Apple because it knows Apple's
consumers are most influenced by these sort of issues. Frankly, I'd be
VERY surprised if Dell, HP and the rest aren't as bad or worse than
Apple.
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And besides, isn't SQLite already embedded into OS X in CoreData? Might
be an idea to latch onto that.
Yes, SQLite is embedded into OSX, but there's not a ready connector
for Rev to access it. We (Altuit) makes such a connector, complete
with embedded database, and Ruslan is correct, it sells
Why not just:
put URL (file: mfile) into fld code
??
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On 9/25/06, Jerry Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see no reason to discriminate against Altuit Software just because
it's developed it on Windows and I use a Mac and Windows! Maybe I
should. Chipp brings up an excellent point. I think we should
consider it. GRIN
Ouch. What a hurtful thing
Congratulations RR on the latest release!
I also say a hearty Thanks for your responsiveness to the needs of
the user community. I know folks like Richard and I have pressed for
the hoverIcon feature, and others for proportional resizing. Great
stuff!
Keep up the good work!
(Now if we can just
Both Install Creator and InstallGadget ship with uninstallers.
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I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement.
Here's my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.
In order for Rev to succeed, it needs to have a decent out of the box
user experience. Look what happened to MetaCard which never had one.
Besides, asking that a script editor be at least as
Sivakatirswami,
Yes, create a new folder, put the DLL and EXE there and then launch
the EXE to make sure it runs. Then zip it.
Once you have the folder you may want to try Monte Goulding's
InstallGadget (built in Rev) to build an installer for it.
Check with Dar. I think he has done extensive work there with Revolution.
On 9/22/06, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
Has anyone done any work with RFID tags: programming them, reading
them etc. We want to set up inventory control for a product we make
and it sounds like RFID
in the card script of your main stack:
on closeStackRequest
quitMe
end closeStackRequest
on quitMe
if the environment is development then
close this stack
else
quit
end if
end quitMe
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Welcome to the 'roll you own table object' class. Please be seated.
Today we will be talking about multiple fields inside a group which is
made to look like a single field. Your homework assignment is...
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On 9/20/06, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe Chipp's engineer
can chime in for guidance.
His name is Chris Bohnert, and it appears his chime is working!
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Perhaps your script is throwing an error BEFORE it gets to the show
group command. Try commenting everything out but the show group and
see if that works. If so, then backtrack from there.
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We recently did a V2 for both ButtonGadget and eXpertSystem. While in
both cases, the interfaces changed drastically, the underlying code
didn't change that much.
I remember something Mark Weider pointed us to a year or so ago. It
said something about resisting the impulse to wipe it clean and
I hate using monospace fonts...they're so...ugly...and non-standard. I
would suggest looking at Sean's approach on paste.
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Yep. LogMeIn is free. :-)
On 9/17/06, Richard Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chipp,
Is there a reason you don't use GoToMyPC.com. I've found it to work
perfectly on numerous PC's I control remotely.
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Dan,
You might want to reread your previous post. Saying Windows remains
an iffy platform for the relianble deployment of rich media apps is a
fairly ridiculous statement. There are plenty of 'Rich Media Apps'
built and running for Windows including those built by Apple Computer.
I know you
On 9/15/06, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but... they're *not* rdp replacements, for the reasons I've
already mentioned. They're great at what they do, and the vnc protocol
is completely cross-platform, but they don't allow for remote logins
without running into the mousewar
AFAIK, nothing is special regarding robustness.
On 9/14/06, Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anything special about XP Media?
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Eric,
Thanks for the tutorial, and glad to hear you're still among the living
Missed ya.
-Chipp
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Sivikatirswami,
You know, the problem may not be Windows, but Apple's implementation
of Quicktime on PC's. Chris has mentioned to me there is a very large
memory leak in Safari that Apple has known about for a long time, but
is reticent to fix (something about how Objective-C multi-threads yada
Shari, do you only have this problem on Macs? Or is it on PC's too? I
have a nifty file unlock routine for Windows if you need it.
-Chipp
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Josh,
I'm with you on the overdoing the handler thing.
I've tried writing code where no handlers/functions are more than a
dozen lines long, and while it is an interesting excercise...it's a
real pain to debug, not to mention to go back and try and figure out
what the heck you meant to do 6
There should not be any robustness issues whatsover between XP home
and Pro. Regarding your question, the answer is 'NO', unless you need
to access multiple networked workgroups from your kiosk (I suggest
not), you are fine with Win XP home. In fact, I use WinXP home both at
home and at work--
On 9/13/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the thing about Windows that I never could understand.
Can you imagine how users would revolt if Apple came out with 'Mac OS
Tiger Lite?
I can't imagine Mac users ever revolting. Especially seeing where they
have to pay for a new
This is one feature where Mac has it all over PC's--all the crap that
gets installed with each new PC is mostly just garbage.
Some people reformat and reinstall from the included recovery disks
sans garbage-ware.
I don't. I typically get rid of Norton or McAffee anti-virus,
scanning,
Well, if the program is Sound Jukebox or AOL, and I know it's not
part of what I would typically use, then I delete it. If it's NVidia
Drivers or Sony Video Shared Libary (and I'm on a Sony machine),
then I'll keep it. If I don't know, I'll either keep it or Google it
to find out if it's really
Ken,
I took care to notice that gem of scripting the first time you
mentioned it. It also has the benefit of being able to reconcile new
colornames (if Rev ever adds them).
-Chipp
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On 9/9/06, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're still using the + symbol?
What's this + symbol thing and how does it relate to Revolution? I
don't think I'm using it properly. Am I missing something? Thank God
for this list, without I'd surely be lost!
On 9/8/06, John Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott,
I am using Photoshop to create a web animation. Does ImageReady have
features beyond Photoshop?
I believe what Scott means is that Photoshop by itself cannot save a
file in the animated GIF format. That is what ImageReady does. You can
On 9/5/06, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ slap forehead ] It just dawned on me where your UI color scheme came
from. :-)
And you always thought I was ONLY ripping YOU off. See, I'm an equal
opportunity interface ripper-offer!!
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Though the downloads limits have been reached, they've told me the
download would be available (if you purchased it..for $0) forever.
So, then, no problem.
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Also,
Check out MODO's interface. It's really IMO the best of breed
interface for 3D apps out there at this moment. Many of the 3D
applications create a single interface to work across multiple
platforms. Some of them do a better job than others, but none the
less, they are all interesting...to
Crashed on my WinXP machine. Started loading, then started playing a
bit, then Rev crashed.
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