On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Richmond wrote:
On 11/17/2010 09:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do this. I guess it means finding where
the image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when
my app starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?
Pete
I think I'll make up a T-shirt that says:
on openBackground backgroundID
if the short name of background backgroundID = Hypercard then
answer Things have changed now!
launch LiveCode
end if
end openBackground
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I've customised a datagrid column to contain a checkbox. Right after
the customisation, the checkbox shows up in the column just fine. I
then added the following line of code in the FillInData handler for
the column:
set the hilite of button 1 of the long ID of me to handleBoolean(pData)
That worked!
Are you familiar with the banana slug, native to the Santa Cruz area
of California?
Pete Haworth
On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:54 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:
Pete,
Try:
set the hilite of btn 1 of me to handleBoolean(pData)
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Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem
regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image
library in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image
Library when specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE
and standalone but
Thanks. It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me. Oh well!
Pete Haworth
On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Just started using this and very happy but have
I'm not 100% sure how to do this. I guess it means finding where the
image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app
starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?
Pete Haworth
On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter
Thanks Devin and Richmond.
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On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do
I'd be happy with that too.
Pete Haworth
On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Kevin Miller wrote:
I'm leaning towards shortening the banner time to 5 seconds.
That would be a very good option, IMO.
When SuperCard introduced a splash screen delay they originally went
for 10
I love how unconnected discussions come together! I just downloaded
stackrunner and it seems to solve all my issues regarding standalone
startup banners/using test files versus live files. I point it to my
application .rev file and it runs it as if it were a standalone,
opening the live
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Richmond wrote:
On 11/16/2010 08:04 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I love how unconnected discussions come together! I just
downloaded stackrunner and it seems to solve all my issues
regarding standalone startup banners/using test files versus live
files. I
is a backwards
compatibility issue with Metacard stacks or something. I vaguely
remember this being discussed a few months ago. But I could be
wrong. Well... not really. ;-)
Bob
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Avoiding NULLs is always good I think. But since SQLite itself
works
Ron,
I don't develop for iPad/iPhone (yet) but it seems to me that
Revolution owe all its developers who do develop on that platform an
answer to your questions and any others that would make it easier to
develop apps for the Apple Store.
Pete Haworth
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:06 PM, ron
I understand Kevin. I just don't like the fact that a standalone
application I create from code I have written myself on my own
computer still has this delay in it when I run it on my own computer.
Pete Haworth
On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:
On 15/11/2010 16:07, Pete
I have a totally separate set of files and databases for testing in
the IDE than I do for live running with the standalone.
Pete Haworth
On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Kevin Miller wrote:
On 15/11/2010 17:42, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:
I understand Kevin. I just don't
If I want to install my application on my laptop as well as my desktop
all for my own use, you're suggesting I install a pirate copy of the
IDE on one of my computers (I think).
Pete Haworth
On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Kevin Miller wrote:
On 15/11/2010 20:23, Jeffrey Massung
, at 12:49 PM, Kevin Miller wrote:
On 15/11/2010 20:43, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:
If I want to install my application on my laptop as well as my
desktop
all for my own use, you're suggesting I install a pirate copy of the
IDE on one of my computers (I think).
No, we allow you
Hi Bob,
The double bar is a concatenation operator, same as the in LiveCode
Pete Haworth
On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Peter, I do not know what the double bars are in an SQL statement.
What do they do?
Bob
On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Just ran
, and the query worked fine
for me. At this point, what I would suggest is getting the sqLite
plugin for Firefox and making queries directly against the sqLite
database. See what you get then.
Bob
On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Just ran into a serious problem with and SQLite SELECT
?
Bob
On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Thanks Bob. I think the problem may have something to do with NULL
values in some of the columns coming back from the SELECT. When I
fixed them, the SELECT worked fine in LiveCode. The Firefox plugin
was one of the utilities I used
When I'm testing and fixing bugs - a lot!
Pete Haworth
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:45 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:
Far of all these considerations, a simple question: how many times you
open your application a day?
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is a backwards
compatibility issue with Metacard stacks or something. I vaguely
remember this being discussed a few months ago. But I could be
wrong. Well... not really. ;-)
Bob
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Avoiding NULLs is always good I think. But since SQLite
That's exactly what I would like to see. Unfortunately, it seems as
if Revolution has moved away from license keys so I doubt it will
happen.
Pete Haworth
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
On 15/11/2010 20:37, Andre Garzia wrote:
(2) There is no way to distinguish your
Yes, matter of fact I did just recently. Turned out to be a data
problem in my application which didn't manifest itself in the IDE but
caused big performance problems in the standalone. The only way I
could track it down was to keep trying things/writing messages to a
debug log,
Thanks. I forgot that I have been using the SQLite strftime function
to do all my date formatting/calculations so I think I'll just use that.
Pete Haworth
On Nov 14, 2010, at 12:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 11/13/10 4:55 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
The dates are coming from an SQL
I agree it wasn't a surprise, but sometimes the reality of things
doesn't match expectations (there's no mention of the banner staying
on the screen for 10 seconds). At this point, I have no plans to
offer my application for commercial use but I ought to be able to run
a standalone on my
Just ran into a serious problem with and SQLite SELECT statement in 4.5.
I'm selecting data from my database with the following SQLite statement
put revDataFromQuery(,,gDBID,myLine) after tdata
myline contains SELECT PlaceID, Name || ',' || City || ',' || State AS
Location FROM Places ORDER
I'm using the datetimetoJulian function in Sarah's great datetime
stack as part of a way to get the alpha weekday name. The words in
Sarah's stack say that it's possible to get the day number of the week
by taking the remainder of dividing the Julian days by 7 but when I do
that, I
That sounds simpler! I've never used convert and dateitems - what
format would tdate have to be in?
Pete Haworth
On Nov 13, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote:
On 11/13/10 1:44 PM, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:
I'm using the datetimetoJulian function in Sarah's great
:46 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 11/13/10 3:44 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm using the datetimetoJulian function in Sarah's great datetime
stack
as part of a way to get the alpha weekday name. The words in Sarah's
stack say that it's possible to get the day number of the week by
taking
No problem Richard, fun tracking this stuff down. After your last
email, I now understand the exact reason for the slowdown.
I now plan to switch all my long name references over to use the
control ID. Everything in the doc says using the ID should be a safe
way to uniquely identify a
I've learned over the last few days how important it is to keep track
of code changes in each release of an app. I already have a LiveCode
app that lets me catalog bugs/enhancements, prioritise them, write
notes about how they were fixed and define which release they were
fixed in.
Magic Carpet as well though!
Pete Haworth
On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Peter,
This was a hot topic some months ago here. There are many
alternatives and
many users have rolled their own as well. Your first choice is:
(a) To use a standard VCS/SCM software such as Git
Chipp - where can I get a copy of Magic Carpet?
Pete Haworth
On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
f you decide to go with option (b) then you can do pretty much
whatever you
want. Chipp Walters has a wonderful tool in the form of Magic Carpet.
I opted to go for the personal version of LiveCode when the name
change happened. I understand that I can't distribute apps with this
version but I personally find it objectionable that I have to endure
the banner announcing that for 10 seconds every time I start a
standalone app - I'm
On Nov 10, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
Peter Brigham MD wrote:
Here's the way I do it. I show a small display stack, the idea is
just
that it's a billboard to tell the user that the saving is occurring.
It closes after the save is done.
on doSave
modeless stack savingAlert
I think I have found the cause of the performance problems I have
been experiencing. I had been referring to objects by their long name
in various places in the offending code. I started changing the code
to refer to the same objects by their short ID and each line of code I
changed
Thanks for delving into this Richard.
Here's a small example section of code which I've changed to use the
ID where it used to use the long name. The variables are:
myIDholds the short ID of the control
pselection a parameter passed into the command
put the milliseconds into
See answers below.
Pete Haworth
What's interesting there is that the control is only being
referenced three times: once to write the debug string, a second
time to check the customKeys, and a third time to obtain the prop
values.
Given that it's just three object references and most
Figured out the IDE/Standalone performance issue, it's nothing to do
with the code.
I my last email I mentioned how I have a custom property holding the
long names of all the controls on a card that need to have data loaded
into them from my database. On closer inspection, the long name
Yes, that's what I'm seeing. With the references to my .rev filepath
in the control names, the card I'm using to test was taking around 35
seconds to open. I went through and manually removed the references
to the filepath (that's the only thing I changed I swear!) and built
the
, Monte! Thanks for running that test.
So the difference is in addressing controls *within* a stack, but
not with the stack itself. Hard to anticipate, but very good to know.
So Peter has a solution, and I learned two new things today about
performance.
A good day
On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
Peter Brigham MD wrote:
The saving of the time in a customProp is because I have scripted
things so the stack is automatically saved every 20 minutes, or at
whatever interval the user chooses in the preferences. That feature
was irrelevant
doesn't his work with a cursor?
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On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Devin Asay wrote:
Joe,
I'd use a spinning daisy cursor. See http://ajaxload.info/ for a
slick utility that will generate a custom animated gif for you
and foremost.
Peter
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On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:
I'm just fooling around with trying out an animated cursor, and I
can't get it to work. I tried importing an animated GIF then setting
the cursor to it, but I only get what looks like an opaque
Spent the last day or so trying to get some data to track this problem
down by inserting code to write details of the time taken for various
chunks of code to execute into a text file so I could see what was
going on. I narrowed it down to a command that loads the text
property of an
On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Devin Asay wrote:
On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:
On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
So it seems like you could just set the cursor to the image id of
your choosing, and increment it in a repeat loop, just like 'set
cursor
On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:36 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 11/9/10 11:33 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:
It
does seem that setting a cursor to an animated GIF ought to work
out of
the box the way setting a button icon to an animated GIF does
But if
there's a workaround for cursors I'd settle
the mouseloc into uStartPoint
end mousedown
on mouseup
put the mouseloc into uEndPoint
end mouseup
Then use the script local variables in whatever handlers for your own
purposes.
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On Nov 9, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote:
fluid measurement: Scots pint ( = 4 English pints)
No wonder the Scots have a high tolerance for alcohol. I'll have
another pint, please.
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I think you are on to something there Peter. This may be something
for the bug reports. Is there a test stack with the debug written
into it that you could post so we can try it on our end?
Bob
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This isn't specific example including complete code but the general
flow is:
revExecuteSQL gDBID,BEGIN TRANSACTION
.
revdbExecute your SQL command
if error
revRollBackDatabase gDBID
exit
end if
.
revdbExecute your SQL command
if error
revRollBackDatabase gDBID
to the seconds
close stack savingAlert
go stack pdData
end doSave
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On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:24 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
Hi Craig,
Forget the part about not knowing when a save is done... I'm a
little tired
In my case the save takes at most 2 seconds. Progress bar probably not
needed. Also, it's impossible (AFAIK) to tell in advance how long a
save will take, to the only progress bar possible for this situation
would be a barber-pole type bar.
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Thanks for all the input. I've pretty much ruled out SQLite as the
cause of the problem because I'm using the same database in the IDE
and the standalone so unless the standalone is using a different
SQLite library than the IDE, there shouldn't be any difference in
performance between the
I just built my first standalone with LiveCode 4.5 (on OSX) and I'm
seeing painfully slow performance compared to the same application
built with 4.0.
I'm using an SQLite database to populate all the data on the cards in
the app, not sure if there's some problem with the SQLite side of
I guess I was too hasty in accusing LiveCode 4.5 of performance
issues! I rebuilt my application using Rev Studio 4.0 using the same
code base and the performance issues are still there in the standalone.
So the issue now is that the problem doesn't occur in the IDE, only in
the
return true
end testFormat
call it with:
if testFormat(tInput) then
-- valid string, do whatever
else
-- invalid string, do something else
end if
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote
A solution is to change owner. After chown to my user, it runs and updates
the DGH fine. Should not have to do this, however, and it does not solve
the problem that every account should be able to use it. I will write to
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Chipp, not saying you are wrong, but how would you know? That's the thing
that got me, and why I think Alejandro's thought of taking Windows offline
is quite sensible. The problem with windows getting compromised is I am not
sure you necessarily know when its happened. Most studies on anti
Yes, I get this too. Always assumed it was a feature, just the way it works.
How are you modifying the button graphic? What I have done is underlay a
graphic with a transparent button not showing its name, but you'll have
thought of that.
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Zryip, another thing which is probably a Linux peculiarity, the DGH is asking
should it do an upgrade. So you say yes, but then it can't open the file.
Its probably permissions. The LC app is installed into /opt, and of course
the user does not have write permissions in /opt, which is what the
, but by account. Anyone else getting this?
Peter
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. But I can't understand why if,
as myself, I simply acquire root privileges, it should not find all its
files?
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I hate this damn computer
I wish that I could sell it.
It never does what I want it to,
Only what I tell it!
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On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Bob
pe...@:/opt/runrev/livecode-4.5$ ls
Documentation livecode.x86 Resources Runtime
Externals Pluginsrevpdfprinter.so Toolset
License Agreement.txt Release Notes.pdf revsecurity.so
pe...@:/opt/runrev/livecode-4.5$ ./livecode.x86
Nope, same thing. Also su -m -p, or su -p, also same thing. Weird.
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I don't know if its safer than current versions of Windows 7 intelligently
used. It certainly is a lot safer than earlier versions of XP, used as they
came out of the box.
One reason is that desktop linux is a small population and so not being
targeted.
A second is when you do an install, it
not long after, and Linux holds out longest. But I don't know what the
starting setup is on the windows installation.
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cases for SQLite.
As Yogi Berra said, In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
in practice they're different.
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Yes, it was the annual hackfests. I only know two people with OSX, and
neither one has been compromised. Whether the Unix underpinnings make OSX
more secure? I think the hacks, but maybe others recall better, were due to
applications and privilege escalation.
I am really not sure what to
Thanks guys, food for thought. This would probably do most of it, have him
able to write it in something he is comfortable with, but also centralize it
so as not to proliferate copies. Should have thought of it. Thanks.
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I never realized how much variation there is in these things.
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On Oct 29, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Jim Sims wrote:
On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I've never seen it that way. All my Mac
I have been to http://revweb.runrev.com/ and it says, as it has for some
years now, that the Linux version is coming shortly.
Is it in fact coming? And if so when? I'm asking because I need that kind
of functionality one way or another in the next couple of months.
Peter
test under Revolution 4.0. I created a new stack and added
the following handler to the stack:
on startup
put Hello Console
quit
end startup
I created a standalone and then ran the executable from a shell console using
the -ui option :
Rodney:MacOS peter$ ./CLTest -ui
Hello Console
Its a really simple application, its for a guy that I work with. I would
really like for him to be able to write it and keep it going himself. I am
lately rather seriously in the mode of lessening people's dependence on me
for this stuff. What it is, he will have a large map on a big screen.
with the need.
Thanks to the dozen or more members of this list that have helped me
with ideas, shell calls, etc. I absolutely could not have done it
without you.
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constant storageStack = yourStackNameHere
Richmond
Thanks, but what is a Fn button?
It's the bottom left key in the picture at
http://gamoe.net/imagebank/NewMacBookKeyboard.jpg.
There are both return and enter keys on my MacBookPro.
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Well thanks to this thread at least I found out where the # key went on the
UK Mac keyboards, which maybe might come in handly one day. Its surreal to
have it be alt + 3 unmarked. How on earth are you supposed to know that?
I guess you have to read the Human Interface Guidelines?
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To most people, this has never had anything to do with OS choice or with
Apple's stock price. It has to do with corporate conduct. It has to do
with the following:-
1) Do you want a society in which your access to applications and thus
increasingly to media is in the control of a few
Presumably they wanted to have the pound sterling symbol more
naturally available, so they swapped the sterling and the # mappings
-- option-3 vs shift-3. It would have made more sense for them to have
mapped the sterling symbol to shift-4, where the dollar sign is.
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On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Ian McKnight wrote:
Do you know I never really thought about using either mouseenter or
mousemove :)
As I was thinking about various ways to solve my problem it just
Yes, Richard's post is spot on. They have a track record, and this is how it
will start.
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The Apple corded full USB is very nice. Far better than the Cherry Strait
which is a contender also, but the keycaps wear off. Otherwise, Logitech
OEM is very good value and everyone really likes it. Or the extreme
clickety clack made by PCKeyboards, which if they are into that sort of
thing,
I have to say, reluctantly, not being an admirer of Apple or its works, that
the latest keyboards, if that's the sort of thing you want, basically do not
have any competition. I was using the aluminum usb full one, really came to
like it, apart from the irritating keycaps. It is virtually
Chipp Walters wrote:
Jeez, how long before you have to JAILBREAK your Mac in order to put
your
own programs on it? I believe it's just around the corner..haven't been
wrong yet.
We all have to decide, its both a personal thing and a society thing. The
personal thing
is do we
On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Richmond wrote:
On 10/21/2010 05:39 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Richmond wrote:
On 10/21/2010 10:27 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
So the problem society has with Apple is not whether it will
close down OSX,
I think Chipp is right, it will just as soon
Have you tested the increase type size on Linux? It does not seem to work
for me. Debian Squeeze and Fluxbox.
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of the chosen cards?
How to you load the saved data back into the print cards?
Sound as if we'll have to see your scripting to sort this out.
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I have done set the rect of stack xyz to the screen rect.
With Gnome this floats the stack above but touching the task bar, as with
all apps meximized, with no overlap. With Fluxbox, the task bar is
overlappng and over the stack which occupies the whole screen, and this
happens with all apps.
Yes this is right, it does it with flux on Debian also.
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I do like wmii, but what I keep coming back to for everyday use is Fluxbox,
and some of the time ion2. Mostly Fluxbox feels very intuitive and plain.
I agree the suckless people are very interesting.
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not part of the filename.
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On Oct 9, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Mike Bonner wrote:
Can you come at it from a different direction? Can you check
current SSID
against a printer list to select which printer you want? Assuming
put min(myAge,42) into myAge
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On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
OH MY GOSH! I am 42 today! And have been for some years now! ;-)
Bob
On Oct 10, 2010, at 2:16 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Hi,
Today
than 1 valid result, and
you do use
the entire thing as your match text, also might consider a sort
since I
can't test if system_profiler always lists in the exact same order.
-- Peter
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