Good post. It's time to be a realist. I read Jobs' essay as laying out
his thinking reasonably clearly, but with some slanting -- probably
this is just the way he is, remember the "reality-distortion field"
after all. In particular, I'd have a little more respect for him
without the distort
On Apr 29, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
It's funny to read the replies in regards to the "advertisement" on
apples page. Steven knows exactly what he's doing, and getting the
internet to spin in tune with his demands is as easy as posting a
slightly warped "factsheet" about
I actually had the opportunity (well obligation seeing I was one of the crew on
a United States warship at the time) to visit Sydney, and being a young sailor
who visited nude beaches every chance I could get, I spent a couple hours
there. It was quite beautiful, even then. It may no longer be a
Right. I was supporting your point there. :-)
Bob
On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> On 29/04/2010 20:17, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>
> Dear Bob,
> I am well aware how the real world works.
>
> Knowing that doesn't stop me from imagining that it
> might
On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> On 29/04/2010 20:20, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> Yes, that was what they called it. I believe that if real Turquoise could
>> speak, it would express vehement dismay for the association with the actual
>> color Apple used. :-)
>>
>
> More a
On 29/04/2010 20:33, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
Of course cross platform tools increase the lag of uptake on new technology,
and they always look awkward (yes, Rev does look awkward on all platforms). But
then, they allow developers to produce one product, and get it to customers on
several
On 29/04/2010 20:20, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Yes, that was what they called it. I believe that if real Turquoise could
speak, it would express vehement dismay for the association with the actual
color Apple used. :-)
More a virulent, vaguely polluted, tropical lagoon sort of colour.
When the or
On 29/04/2010 20:17, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Bob
Dear Bob,
I am well aware how the real world works.
Knowing that doesn't stop me from imagining that it
might be a shade (just a shade) better than it is.
I also pointed out my belief that, while people do do
many, seemingly, altruistic thing
yes... Apple's "actual" response. Thank you. Another realist.
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Thank you... Well said. Finally a realist!
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It's funny to read the replies in regards to the "advertisement" on apples
page. Steven knows exactly what he's doing, and getting the internet to spin in
tune with his demands is as easy as posting a slightly warped "factsheet" about
how it's not at all about power, or making a loser out of som
Really nice post, Bob. Thanks.
Best,
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On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
> I think the source of whatever disagreements are being had in this thread
> stem from a ten
Yes, that was what they called it. I believe that if real Turquoise could
speak, it would express vehement dismay for the association with the actual
color Apple used. :-)
Bob
On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> On 29/04/2010 19:40, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> I suspect that an
I think the source of whatever disagreements are being had in this thread stem
from a tendency for people to misperceive the nature of the world they actually
have to deal with day to day, and their ability to make any real quantum change
in it's nature. This is driven by the seemingly inescapab
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Jeff Massung wrote:
>
> Most importantly, as it likely pertains to Rev and other middle-ware
>> developers working with Apple on their TOS:
>>
>>
>> "We know from painful experience that letting a third party layer of
>> software come bet
On 29/04/2010 19:40, Bob Sneidar wrote:
I suspect that anyone who has to have a newer, bigger fridge every year either
just love having a newer, bigger fridge, or didn't plan very well, and continue
to make that mistake every year.
We still have an original iMac (the ugliest green ever to ooz
I suspect that anyone who has to have a newer, bigger fridge every year either
just love having a newer, bigger fridge, or didn't plan very well, and continue
to make that mistake every year.
We still have an original iMac (the ugliest green ever to ooze from the warped
minds of seriously dist
Jeff Massung wrote:
Most importantly, as it likely pertains to Rev and other middle-ware
developers working with Apple on their TOS:
"We know from painful experience that letting a third party layer of
software come between the platform and the developer ultimately results in
sub-standard apps
On 29/04/2010 18:26, Jeff Massung wrote:
Sorry for missing it (tone sucks in email). ;-)
I haven't really been following any of the "Steve Jobs" or new iP* TOS
agreement threads, but I do need to say I agree with most everything you
stated.
I don't know when this was posted to Apple's site a
On 29/04/2010 18:16, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
I was being facetious (thought that was obvious). The level of anger voiced in this
thread certainly exposes selfish profit centered motives. That fact alone needed to be
exposed before things got too obnoxious. My bet is that mr jobs would love
Sorry for missing it (tone sucks in email). ;-)
I haven't really been following any of the "Steve Jobs" or new iP* TOS
agreement threads, but I do need to say I agree with most everything you
stated.
I don't know when this was posted to Apple's site and if it's already been
discussed here alrea
I was being facetious (thought that was obvious). The level of anger voiced in
this thread certainly exposes selfish profit centered motives. That fact alone
needed to be exposed before things got too obnoxious. My bet is that mr jobs
would love to keep the development and source as open as p
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> On 29/04/2010 08:38, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
>> Apple is in it for the money? Really? I thought they were a non-profit
>> like Microsoft and Google. Stupid me.
>
> Yes, really! They are in the profit for it as the Linux people are als
On 29/04/2010 08:38, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
Apple is in it for the money? Really? I thought they were a non-profit like
Microsoft and Google. Stupid me.
Yes, really! They are in the profit for it as the Linux people are also,
only their model is different.
Nobody is in the computer bu
Apple is in it for the money? Really? I thought they were a non-profit like
Microsoft and Google. Stupid me.
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Could you feel the breeze?... ;-)
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Will someone please come right out and list the ways that their own life is
going to suck now that mr jobs excluded rev from the blessed development
environments list? Lets personalized this paranoia and frustration. Like
criss rock said, "I haven't seen white people this pissed off since they
2010/4/26 Thomas McGrath III :
> Can we put this to sleep now??
Why the words "sleep" or "sleeping" are all the time back in this list.
Is it a bunch of marmots here?
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Can we put this to sleep now??
On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> On 26/04/2010 20:44, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> GAWD you guys! Everyone loves the underdog, that is until he succeeds, and
>> then he becomes Darth Vader to everyone.
>>
>> Every despot starts out at least th
On 26/04/2010 20:58, Marian Petrides wrote:
Only the part of the world that actually INTERESTS him. ;-)
On Apr 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
I'm just glad Steve Jobs is not trying to take over the world. (Is he?)
Richmond Mathewson did not write the above: Bob S did.
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Only the part of the world that actually INTERESTS him. ;-)
On Apr 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>> I'm just glad Steve Jobs is not trying to take over the world. (Is he?)
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On 26/04/2010 20:44, Bob Sneidar wrote:
GAWD you guys! Everyone loves the underdog, that is until he succeeds, and then
he becomes Darth Vader to everyone.
Every despot starts out at least thinking he is making the world a better place. But
then, supposing you are the "benevolent dictator", w
GAWD you guys! Everyone loves the underdog, that is until he succeeds, and then
he becomes Darth Vader to everyone.
Every despot starts out at least thinking he is making the world a better
place. But then, supposing you are the "benevolent dictator", what do you do
with all the other guys who
On 24/04/2010 00:00, François Chaplais wrote:
This one was from communist Eastern Germany.
Do you know why toilet paper is called "Stalin's Revenge" there?
because if can't make you heart red, it certainly makes your ass the right
color.
I have never tried cleaning a donkey with toilet pape
On 24/04/2010 19:31, Jeffrey Massung wrote:
On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:
They call it "duel-boot". Is that a Freudian slip, or just an ordinary one?
An ordinary one. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
Interestingly enough, when I was a boy,
On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:
>> They call it "duel-boot". Is that a Freudian slip, or just an ordinary one?
>
> An ordinary one. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your
> mother.
Adding to my random .sig. I actually LOL'ed when I read that. :-)
Jeff M._
On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
From: bar...@libero.it
Nothing is sacred!
You can now run Android and all its programmes on your iPhone!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/android_iphone/
I probably will not be the first with this notice but I can try.
They call it
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
>
> LOL! I only heard that one last week, only it was about moth balls :-)
>
>
> Ah yes, one the whole world can enjoy:-)
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>> Next, can we do elephant jokes and dead baby jokes? I bet there are people
>> here who aren't old enough to remember those. Come to think of it, I'm old
>> enough to have forgotten most of them.
>>
>>
> Your not serious are you. My kids come home from school and tell me ALL the
> same jokes that
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:53 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
> Next, can we do elephant jokes and dead baby jokes? I bet there are people
> here who aren't old enough to remember those. Come to think of it, I'm old
> enough to have forgotten most of them.
>
>
Your not serious are you. My kids come hom
This one was from communist Eastern Germany.
Do you know why toilet paper is called "Stalin's Revenge" there?
because if can't make you heart red, it certainly makes your ass the right
color.
Le 23 avr. 2010 à 22:20, J. Landman Gay a écrit :
> :) Reminds me of an old soviet joke from some year
Devin Asay wrote:
On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
:) Reminds me of an old soviet joke from some years ago:
"Capitalism is the exploitation of one man by another. Communism is
exactly the opposite."
Which, in turn, reminds me of yet another soviet joke:
"In the Soviet Unio
Colin Holgate wrote:
That version doesn't work quite as well as the way I heard it.
You're probably right. My brain is only half here today. It's Friday.
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On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> :) Reminds me of an old soviet joke from some years ago:
>
> "Capitalism is the exploitation of one man by another. Communism is
> exactly the opposite."
>
> Which, in turn, reminds me of yet another soviet joke:
>
> "In the Soviet Union we
On Apr 23, 2010, at 4:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> :) Reminds me of an old soviet joke from some years ago:
>
> "Capitalism is the exploitation of one man by another. Communism is exactly
> the opposite."
That version doesn't work quite as well as the way I heard it. In your version
it sou
François Chaplais wrote:
Reminds me of an old IT joke:
Today I have manage to emulate a 4 digit calculator on my DEC-Alpha.
Tomorrow I will do the reverse.
:) Reminds me of an old soviet joke from some years ago:
"Capitalism is the exploitation of one man by another. Communism is
exactly the
On Apr 23, 2010, at 4:04 PM, François Chaplais wrote:
>
> >Today I have manage to emulate a 4 digit calculator on my DEC-Alpha.
> Tomorrow I will do the reverse.
A related quote about Seymour Cray:
"When he was told that Apple Computer had just bought a Cray to help design the
next Apple Mac
Reminds me of an old IT joke:
Today I have manage to emulate a 4 digit calculator on my DEC-Alpha.
Tomorrow I will do the reverse.
chers,
François
Le 23 avr. 2010 à 19:12, bar...@libero.it a écrit :
>
> Nothing is sacred!
> You can now run Android and all its programmes on your iPhone!
> From: Richmond Mathewson
>
> After the famous "1984" commercial by Apple it is all rather sad to see
> Steve Jobs in the role of all-knowing, all-seeing dictator.
>
> The fact that some engineers have managed to crash Android through
> the Iron Curtain has got to be good; and, I hope, will ma
On 23/04/2010 21:49, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
From: bar...@libero.it
Nothing is sacred!
You can now run Android and all its programmes on your iPhone!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/android_iphone/
I probably will not be the first with this notice but I can try.
They call it "duel-boo
> From: bar...@libero.it
>
> Nothing is sacred!
> You can now run Android and all its programmes on your iPhone!
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/android_iphone/
>
> I probably will not be the first with this notice but I can try.
They call it "duel-boot". Is that a Freudian slip, or
Nothing is sacred!
You can now run Android and all its programmes on your iPhone!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/android_iphone/
I probably will not be the first with this notice but I can try.
Barry Barber
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