Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-08 Thread Richmond
On 07/08/2010 01:22 PM, viktoras d. wrote: well, in my language gratuit = nemokamas, libre = laisvas (~4000 000 speakers only) and, as far as I know, in Russian (безплатный & свободный) you can not translate English word "free" without knowing the exact context it is used in because meanings of

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-08 Thread viktoras d.
well, in my language gratuit = nemokamas, libre = laisvas (~4000 000 speakers only) and, as far as I know, in Russian (безплатный & свободный) you can not translate English word "free" without knowing the exact context it is used in because meanings of these two words never intersect. Strangely

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-08 Thread René Micout
Absolument nécessaire ! :-) + :-) Le 8 juil. 2010 à 11:47, Francis Nugent Dixon a écrit : > "Etonnant - Non ?" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRospPh4JA > > Merci à Pierre Desproges ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-08 Thread Richmond
On 07/08/2010 12:47 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Rene Micout wrote : In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Strange - In English we have the same possibilities ! We also have the prime number between two and

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-08 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Rene Micout wrote : In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Strange - In English we have the same possibilities ! We also have the prime number between two and four :>) "Etonnant - Non ?" http://www.youtube.com/

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Bonner
LIbationator. Has connotations of religion, and forceful intoxication. Or conversly, to "Arnold the beer" means to terminate it with extreme prejudice. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > >> I've liberated beer before

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Peter Brigham MD
On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. But only as and adjective - as a verb

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Mark Swindell
¡El mero Simon Bolivar de la Revolución escocés... en Brazil! On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Richmond
On 07/07/2010 09:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 10:40:56 AM, you wrote: Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in different territory; and I don't think the 2 really overlap. Chris Anderson has some thought-provoking things to say

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 10:40:56 AM, you wrote: > Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in > different territory; > and I don't think the 2 really overlap. Chris Anderson has some thought-provoking things to say about the concept of "free", including several us

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Andre Garzia
> > > > > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > > > > http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/facepalm.jpg > > ;-) > actually, I have a star trek costume exactly like that... will exercise my piccard facepalm look... > > Jeff M

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Jeff Massung
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > > > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/facepalm.jpg ;-) Jeff M. _

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Andre, Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? Probably a libeerator :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing li

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Andre Garzia
I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Mmm liberated beer. > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder > wrote: > > René- > > > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > > > >> In French we have 2 words f

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Sneidar
In America, they are kind of related. I "open" (libre) my wallet, see there's no money there, so whatever I get had better be "free" (gratuit). Bob On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:28 AM, René Micout wrote: > In French we have 2 words for "free" > free = gratuit (no money !) > free = libre (open ?) > ;-)

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Richmond
On 07/07/2010 07:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. Er.. but aren't you the one who's always extolling the virtues of *free* software? Yes; I do extoll the virtues of free

RE: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. > But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. > You can't, for example, free beer, unless you're liberating > it from its container and pouring a round for the room. The "free as in beer" description always bot

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Bonner
Mmm liberated beer. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > René- > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > >> In French we have 2 words for "free" >> free = gratuit (no money !) >> free = libre (open ?) >> ;-) > > Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Mark Wieder
René- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > In French we have 2 words for "free" > free = gratuit (no money !) > free = libre (open ?) > ;-) Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. You can't, for

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread René Micout
In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Le 7 juil. 2010 à 18:20, Mark Wieder a écrit : > Richmond- > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: > >> I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. > > Er... ... but aren't you the on

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: > I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. Er... ... but aren't you the one who's always extolling the virtues of *free* software? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-r

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Richmond
On 07/07/2010 07:08 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: You program in C/C++ and it converts it to Objective-C and uploads it to the app store under the companies iphone dev license. From what I have read, the code it generates is very very sloppy and slow. I don't suppose one should expect TOO much f

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Andrew Kluthe
You program in C/C++ and it converts it to Objective-C and uploads it to the app store under the companies iphone dev license. From what I have read, the code it generates is very very sloppy and slow. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Window-App

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, Clearly, DragonFireSDK didn't get approval from Apple. If you want to use your app on your iPhone, you have to upload it to a server, where it will be compiled with XCode. The website says you can distribute your app as if it were created on a Mac, but it isn't clear to me whether you

Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!

2010-07-07 Thread Ian Wood
It's been around since November at least, but information about it is *very* sparse. I'd be wary, myself. Ian On 7 Jul 2010, at 15:38, charles61 wrote: > > I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that > allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Ap