on Thu, 7 Sep 2006
Dan Shafer wrote:
I love Wikis for collaboration,
but as places for people to share
thougths and ideas, they suck unless
used by pretty savvy folks and maintained
by even more savvy ones.
when i had internet access from the place
where i now live, i´ll participate
I guess this proves that reasonable people can disagree. Or maybe it's just
my gray-haired conservatism. I love Wikis for collaboration, but as places
for people to share thougths and ideas, they suck unless used by pretty
savvy folks and maintained by even more savvy ones. My $0.06 (inflation,
I agree. The MYSQL docs rock. If one doesn't get the definition right
away, the contributed comments and examples lower in the page will.
Rev docs dearly need this feature.
sqb
the forums. As someone who uses MySQL only rarely, I'm always having
to look up the online docs when I do. I find
Hi Dan - the difference between Forums, blogs and wikis was
significant - but really they are increasingly merging. Wikipedia for
instance has a discuss feature for each wiki page (article) - which is
basically a Forum attached to the page, other tools offer similar.
Permissions allow fine
Agree: wiki better than forums for where we are now
why?
1) more integrated and yet at the same time
2) more flexible.
3) could generate a huge dynamic for collaborative
open source projects built on a Rev backbone in a way
that is not possible either via mailing lists or forums.
But we keep
At 7:19 AM -0700 9/4/06, Richard Gaskin wrote:
The current forum is apparently still being set up. For example,
unlike most product forums out there, it's not possible to even read
the posts at the Rev forum until after you've submitted your
personal data and wait to have it human-verified.
Dom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
by the way, I cannot yet access to the forums...
how much time it takes to get registered?
oddly, my username (simply dom) is in the member list -- but my
password is refused, and when I click on lost password I am answered
that I am NOT registered!
how much time it takes to get registered?
oddly, my username (simply dom) is in the member list --
but my password is refused, and when I click on lost
password I am answered that I am NOT registered!
Give it a try now.
Best regards,
Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime
Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give it a try now.
that works now :-)
thanks!
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Yes i was curious why the forums were locked event to peek at the
content. As Richard stated its a big turn off for most users, you
would like to know what you are signing up for before signing up. If
this is to hide that some of the forums dont have many posts its not
a good move for rev
Personally I also dislike the specific benefits made by Lynn
of a forum of posts being editable or controllable. these
lists are very self limiting and the few storms that come up
go away quickly. a good free and open discourse is the heart
and sole of what makes this such a wonderful
This is a very cogent argument for restricted access.
Perhaps this should be explained to the new visitors so they realize that
you are serious about content and moderation that enhances the value of the
forum beyond simple message storage in threads.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On 9/5/06 12:34 PM, Lynn
This is a very cogent argument for restricted access.
Perhaps this should be explained to the new visitors so they
realize that you are serious about content and moderation
that enhances the value of the forum beyond simple message
storage in threads.
Im not sure how necessary that would
Prediction: the RunRev Forum will not be used.
The list will continue to be used. The wiki will not be used. The list
will be continued to be used. Neither the Forum or the Wiki offer
anything compelling over the list. They could have but they do not.
The forum is half way between a wiki and
David,
I'd agree with a lot of what you say, but I think the solution is to dump
the wiki and keep the forums. Wikis are not in common, widespread usage and
although I love the little beasties, a lot of folks are just confused by
them. Plus, of course, they are apparently a lot easier to spam
I'd agree with a lot of what you say, but I think the solution is to dump
the wiki and keep the forums. Wikis are not in common, widespread usage and
although I love the little beasties, a lot of folks are just confused by
them. Plus, of course, they are apparently a lot easier to spam and deface
On 9/4/06, Dom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I realise that was meant as a joke, but seriously, what ARE the
benfits of membership?
to gain access to the forums ;-)
otherwise you are limited to the home page...
I guess I phrased the question badly :-(
Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess I phrased the question badly :-(
please, take note of the smiley ;-)
by the way, I cannot yet access to the forums...
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Sarah,
One angle(s) on forums is: scale and user usage needs levels.
Scale: I don't know how many of you are members of Expert's Exchange,
(EE) but with 3 Million + members, the idea of getting a mailing digests
from EE with daily posts by all members is clearly insane. A forum is
the only
Sivakatirswami wrote:
Scale: I don't know how many of you are members of Expert's Exchange,
(EE) but with 3 Million + members, the idea of getting a mailing digests
from EE with daily posts by all members is clearly insane. A forum is
the only option.
Perhaps, but even if the current growth
otherwise you are limited to the home page...
I guess I phrased the question badly :-(
What is the benefit of the forums?
From a user perspective, forums have a number of benefits:
- Articles/writing can be organized more topically than in mailing lists.
Sure, there are threads in
hmmm, seems this is a sensitive area.
Well, I certainly never meant to imply that the list should go away!
For Heaven's Sake -- No! As an on-going integrated knowledge base it is
possibly *the* most important user resource that Revolution has going for it
and vies with the documentation itself
Lynn-
Monday, September 4, 2006, 8:09:36 AM, you wrote:
- Articles/writing can be organized more topically than in mailing lists.
Sure, there are threads in mailing lists, but that doesn't tie together all
threads on a particular subject.
- Forums allow post-posting editing/reorganizing by
But if you make your living with Rev it's really helpful to have all
posts come into your awareness, even if just in the convenient digest
mode. Software pros are busy people; using push rather than
hunt-and-pull keeps a broader range of relevant info flowing past the
eyeballs who need to see
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
When they acquire an email facility, I will get the forum postings
sent to me and hopefully, I will be able to reply to postings by email
too. Until then, I will not be particiapting in the forums,
I'm in the same boat. I just don't have time to mess with a forum/web
Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not found such a section in Revolution Forums... ??
Its there, keep looking :-)
After some digging, I saw it (a small button in a corner ;-))
I saw also that I was not a member, so I registered :-)
I remember I read some time ago the announce for RR
After some digging, I saw it (a small button in a corner ;-))
I saw also that I was not a member, so I registered :-) I
remember I read some time ago the announce for RR forums, but
I neglected to register...
The benefits of membership :-)
Best regards,
Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide
On 9/4/06, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After some digging, I saw it (a small button in a corner ;-))
I saw also that I was not a member, so I registered :-) I
remember I read some time ago the announce for RR forums, but
I neglected to register...
The benefits of membership
Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I realise that was meant as a joke, but seriously, what ARE the
benfits of membership?
to gain access to the forums ;-)
otherwise you are limited to the home page...
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