Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-15 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: But independent column alignment is so very central to so much of what so many people want to build in Rev, and have wanted for so long, that I believe we're at a point where it can be reasonably said to be expected in the engine. Much

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Josep M Yepes wrote: Somebody know where can try this Inspector Palette that appear in the jpg? Or many info about this? I read this in the improve-revolution list some days ago... For example, a lot of my stuff lately requires display of data in lists in which I need an iTunes-quality

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Richard. I wonder what the price would be that you would charge to contract the work needed to document lib4WTable? If you could get enough of a commitment from other Revolution developers, I would certainly be willing to contribute just so we can have a working table model. But if it

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar On Oct 14, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: http://fourthworldlabs.com/table.jpg The library itself is functional and being used in a couple products, but the delay in making it available for others is that it has no documentation at this point. When I've asked here

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: One challenge here is to make sure we're all talking about the same type of table. There are at least three kinds, as outlined earlier: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2008-April/ 109978.html Of those, mine is the second

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
-= JB =- wrote: Why doesn't the Rev team take some of these examples and build a flexible field that everyone can use. I have heard many people mention they want to have the fields improved so it is obvious it would be wise economically to provide both new and existing Rev customers what

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:19 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: -= JB =- wrote: Why doesn't the Rev team take some of these examples and build a flexible field that everyone can use. I have heard many people mention they want to have the fields improved so it is obvious it would be wise economically

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Stephen Barncard
I'd rather have the rev team work on a new table control and a revised text field. On OWhy doesn't the Rev team take some of these examples and build a flexible field that everyone can use. I have heard many people mention they want to have the fields improved so it is obvious it would be

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Bob Sneidar
WHOOPS! I have started another firestorm methinks. I have been informed that a table object of the nature you speak of IS a high priority to Runrev, but incorporating it is a huge thing. I do not think most people realize what a difficult thing table management is. Each cell is like it's

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: WHOOPS! I have started another firestorm methinks. I have been informed that a table object of the nature you speak of IS a high priority to Runrev, but incorporating it is a huge thing. I do not think most people realize what a difficult

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: Each cell can already be controlled separately plus have its own font style. The columns can already be resized but the rows still need to be able to be resized. The data can be stored how they are storing it now and if needed changed in the future. There are already

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: Each cell can already be controlled separately plus have its own font style. The columns can already be resized but the rows still need to be able to be resized. The data can be stored how they are storing it now and

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: On Oct 14, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: Each cell can already be controlled separately plus have its own font style. The columns can already be resized but the rows still need to be able to be resized. The data can be stored how they are

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: On Oct 14, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: Each cell can already be controlled separately plus have its own font style. The columns can already be resized but the rows still need to be able to

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
-= JB =- wrote: Many things can be done very fast because it is already being done. Integrating it all can not be that hard unless they are trying to rewrite it in a different language and make it do what is already being done with transcript. Yup, that's the deal. The current table field

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: A few things like moving the fields were done in examples I have seen. But if you want to do most of the other things it is done in my stack that is named Dynamic Table Field. It is in Rev online in the programming section or you can look under the user name sundown. Got

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: -= JB =- wrote: Many things can be done very fast because it is already being done. Integrating it all can not be that hard unless they are trying to rewrite it in a different language and make it do what is already being done with

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: A few things like moving the fields were done in examples I have seen. But if you want to do most of the other things it is done in my stack that is named Dynamic Table Field. It is in Rev online in the programming

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: True, as with any Rev chunk. I was hoping for the holy grail of independent column alignment. I've used multiple fields for that in the past, but getting the selection working well and keep things in synch is just more work than it

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: A few things like moving the fields were done in examples I have seen. But if you want to do most of the other things it is done in my stack that is named Dynamic Table Field. It is in Rev online in the programming

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: I think I know what you mean by independent column alignment. Are you wanting to have each column use Left Center or RIght justification? Yep - probably the one feature most developers here would prioritize above all else, so central to information displays as it is. If

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: I think I know what you mean by independent column alignment. Are you wanting to have each column use Left Center or RIght justification? Yep - probably the one feature most developers here would prioritize above all

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: I think I know what you mean by independent column alignment. Are you wanting to have each column use Left Center or RIght justification? Yep - probably the one feature most developers here would prioritize above all

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread -= JB =-
On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:48 PM, -= JB =- wrote: On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: I think I know what you mean by independent column alignment. Are you wanting to have each column use Left Center or RIght justification? Yep - probably the one feature most

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: I am sure the Rev team can speed things up in time. But many features available are much better than nothing at all. As for the proper spacing when I was using a demo of Rev over a year ago I asked about adding a glyph for justification. Someone suggested make an invisible

Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-11 Thread Josep M Yepes
Hi, Somebody know where can try this Inspector Palette that appear in the jpg? Or many info about this? I read this in the improve-revolution list some days ago... For example, a lot of my stuff lately requires display of data in lists in which I need an iTunes-quality display, with

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-11 Thread Bernard Devlin
Josep, I'm not sure if Richard Gaskin is licensing that table component yet or not (www.fourthworld.com). He had qualms a couple of years ago about it not being ready, but that may have changed. You could also look at Chipp's AltFldHeader. I believe it is doing something similar. It is a

Re: Table inspector from 4W

2008-10-11 Thread Chipp Walters
altFldHeader is still with the other altPlugins at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginCover/About.htm I really need to update that website so it's easier to navigate and find stuff. I also released a new version of altXray-- beta. This one adds the ability to show 'separator' comments