Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-03 Thread Judy Perry
And the flip side of that is that, sometimes, things written using languages/environments perceived to be swans produce profoundly ugly ducklings: http://www.doubledivision.org/DoubleDivisionCalculator.html I offer the challenge of finding the third-grader who finds this sort of presumably

RE: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-03 Thread Robert Mann
is well placed and that is why I chose it.. and a shellTalk unix thing would.. well : I'm ready to invest! smile.. What do you think? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-State-of-Rev-Was-Re-ANN-Rodeo-IDE-preview-video-tp2237387p2242187.html Sent

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
If I don't say please will it crash to desktop and send me to my memory partition without supper? Bob On Jun 3, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Robert Mann wrote: There seems to be a big change just around the corner. As I see it.. for linux runrev TOGETHER yes : TOGETHER a) a bundle ready to

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I agree with both Andre and Richards responses to these issues brought up in this excellent thread. One of the things Peter brought up was about the idea of having to buy a 3d party add on to get expected functionality out of the Rev IDE. Andre and Richards responses were right on/spot on about

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
The word bootstrap comes to mind. Microsoft tipped because they got into the market at it's infancy and lots of investors were inspired and saw an opportunity for returns on their investments. Later the Macintosh OS was able to tip because they were a unique way of going at the computer

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
I get the impression that Jerry likes the built in editor just fine the way it is. ;-) Let's face it, Revolution is an odd duck. It really is. A most amazing, magical, useful and inspiring duck, but still odd. What other paradigm in the software development world is like Revolution? It's

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bob Sneidar wrote: Let's face it, Revolution is an odd duck. It really is. A most amazing, magical, useful and inspiring duck, but still odd. Ugly ducklings are really swans. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

RE: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-06-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Linux strikes me as an OS that hit the market too late to tip the scales, and with no real incentive for new developers to invest money into an OS whose reputation was the OS where you could get free stuff. I think that Open Source, while a great and very successful approach in terms of

The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-05-31 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, Motivated by the discussion started by Peter, I decided to write a piece. First following the split in two classes that Peter did, I don't think that Rev is not suitable for professional development by the second class. For those that did not read Peter piece, he does not mean a first and

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-05-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
Andre Garzia wrote: I learned all that the third party addons do is reduce your development/support time which in return helps your ROI which makes your business more likely to succeed. Most of Rev addons are Rev built anyway. Sometimes is a wise investment to use third party tools to improve

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-05-31 Thread Andre Garzia
I think the market for Rev and Linux is not an end user market, like selling to users but creating custom software for enterprise and organizations and all the web stuff such as RevServer. In the future and Linux gets even more widespread, creating commercial linux tools might be a good option.

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-05-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: I think the market for Rev and Linux is not an end user market, like selling to users but creating custom software for enterprise and organizations and all the web stuff such as RevServer. In the future and Linux gets even more widespread, creating commercial linux tools

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-05-31 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 31/05/2010 20:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: Andre Garzia wrote: I think the market for Rev and Linux is not an end user market, like selling to users but creating custom software for enterprise and organizations and all the web stuff such as RevServer. In the future and Linux gets even more

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-05-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
I got so carried away with my Linux fanboism that I forgot to address the main point of this thread, the third-party afermarket: Andre wrote: When Peter says things should be on the core product, I think he means, it should be available when you have the core product. The difference is subtle

Re: The State of Rev (Was Re: [ANN] Rodeo IDE preview video)

2010-05-31 Thread William Roger Moseid
Andre, Your wrote: I decided to write a piece . . . Clear, cogent and consummate. Four thumbs up Best, William __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5159 (20100531) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.