Ken Norris wrote:
How would you characterize the benefits of the HC color tools over Rev's
tools?
I'm talking strictly about painting graphical elements. To me there's no
comparison at all.
1) It's very light and responsive. More so than any other paint program
I've used. Even the best of
On Sep 22, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Marty Billingsley wrote:
snip
I'll jump in here, although my beef is more with the regular painting
tools than the color tools. We really miss HC's text tool for
painting
letters and words. Why did RunRev eliminate that?
That
Devin Asay wrote:
If a strong enough case can be made that benefits enough users I'm
sure RunRev would consider it.
Here's one: A quick and easy way to display non-Latin characters in
your stack without worrying about whether the end user has the right
font installed, and without
Hi Richard,
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:14:55 -0700
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?
Ken Norris wrote:
Note: HyperCard is the one-and-only software item I run in Classic
today. I use its Color Tools because, albeit it lacks some features,
it's still
sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Marty Billingsley wrote:
We really miss HC's text tool for painting
letters and words. Why did RunRev eliminate that?
They didn't, really -- Scott Raney, who wrote the original engine, just
never put it in. I used to think I'd miss it, but so far I haven't ever
needed
Hello Pierre, Charles, et al,
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:57:08 +0200
From: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tiger breaks hyperCard?
Hi,
HC 2.4.1 is still working as expected under Tiger 10.4.2 / Classic /
PWB G4 there.
Best,
Le 21 sept. 05 à 18:00, Charles Hartman a écrit
When the IntelMacs are introduced things should actually get better (short
term) for us HyperCard users. There will be good used and refurbished G4
and
G5 computers available for many years as people upgrade to the new hardware.
HyperCard runs really well (and really fast) on today's G5
Ken Norris wrote:
Note: HyperCard is the one-and-only software item I run in Classic
today. I use its Color Tools because, albeit it lacks some features,
it's still has the fastest, most intuitive paint tools, for cranking out
graphical artwork parts, on the planet.
How would you
Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ken Norris wrote:
Note: HyperCard is the one-and-only software item I run in Classic
today. I use its Color Tools because, albeit it lacks some features,
it's still has the fastest, most intuitive paint tools, for cranking out
graphical artwork
Marty Billingsley wrote:
Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ken Norris wrote:
Note: HyperCard is the one-and-only software item I run in Classic
today. I use its Color Tools because, albeit it lacks some features,
it's still has the fastest, most intuitive paint tools, for cranking out
Marty Billingsley wrote:
We really miss HC's text tool for painting
letters and words. Why did RunRev eliminate that?
They didn't, really -- Scott Raney, who wrote the original engine, just
never put it in. I used to think I'd miss it, but so far I haven't ever
needed paint text. Is there
A very late contribution to this thread.
Way back in 2005-07-04 kee nethery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are running Hypercard on the startup volume, it runs fine
until you try to edit a script. That does not work.
If you are running externals in Hypercard, no clue whether they still
Well, I think the point is that _Classic_ is on the verge of not
being supported any more.
Charles Hartman
On Sep 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
As for Apple's comments: that's just bull. It's true that
HyperCard is not
supported; but they sell Tiger with the ability to run
Hi,
HC 2.4.1 is still working as expected under Tiger 10.4.2 / Classic /
PWB G4 there.
Best,
Le 21 sept. 05 à 18:00, Charles Hartman a écrit :
Well, I think the point is that _Classic_ is on the verge of not
being supported any more.
Charles Hartman
On Sep 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Ben
I still can't figure out how to get nine to five reports and hypercard to
work with tiger. Hypercard works ok with 10.41 but whenever you use reports
it can't find the report file. I tried putting everything in a separate hard
drive and that made no difference.
On 6/29/05 1:42 PM, Marty
The error I get is Reports can't read the stack header and is unable to
proceed. Is your stack password protected? -- the stack is not password
protected. I have no idea what the stack header is.
On 7/2/05 8:18 AM, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I still can't figure out how to get nine to five
Hi Bill,
I found out that HC home paths non longer worked except for stacks
which are in the same folder than HC itself.
Can be a clue. Not sure.
Le 2 juil. 05 à 14:18, Bill a écrit :
I still can't figure out how to get nine to five reports and
hypercard to
work with tiger. Hypercard
Hmm, i just got my new powerbook this week with tiger installed, but
not classic (i think apple has been doing this for at least a year now
since i have had folks say they didnt have classic and i would just
have them load it from their system discs). the powerbook tiger system
discs came with
The problem is nine to five reports under hypercard
On 7/2/05 3:03 PM, jeff reynolds fios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, i just got my new powerbook this week with tiger installed, but
not classic (i think apple has been doing this for at least a year now
since i have had folks say they didnt
Hi all,
I've been following this one from the sidelines.
As I've mentioned in this forum on more than one occasion, I'm one of
those whose business productivity is still totally dependent on the
combination of Hypercard and 9 to 5 Reports.
From all the discussion I've read here dealing
Alan,
You are definitely not alone. There are many of us who continue to use
HyperCard - primarily because of 9 to 5 Reports. I can't imagine a better,
faster, easier business system builder. If it makes you feel better, 18 months
ago
I showed Jan what Richard Gaskin calls the 13 minute
More than that, I think there may very well be a substantial number of
old Hypercard types who have quietly been waiting for a truly viable
reporting scheme before making, or renewing their commitment to
Runtime Revolution.
Regards,
Alan Gayne
I'll second that. I used to do everything
That's just what we've been doing: copying over an old system folder.
Seems to work just fine; every classic app I've tried (admittedly, haven't
launched HC since installing Tiger) has worked well.
cheers,
- marty
--
Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
The University of Chicago Laboratory
Hello:
I have run fine Hypercard in Tiger with G3 and G4 machines.
The problems begin in a computer with G5 processor.
Hypercard in a G5 computer run bad, bad, bad and slw.
(excuse for my bad English)
Un saludo
Joseba Aguayo Fernández
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Does anyone know if standalones build with hypercard are also effected
or is just in the authoring environments the problems show up with
tiger? I just tested an old educational app i did (now a decade old and
still running, amazing) on a g4 powerbook with tiger and it ran
swimmingly. Now i
Hi Todd and Jim,
To be more precise, I was told that you can't install an OS 9.2.2
system folder on any partition where Tiger (or any OS X system) is
already installed.
It does not work: OS 9 must be installed first or installed on
another disk or partition...
At the very worst you have to
Hi Todd and Jim,
To be more precise, I was told that you can't install an OS 9.2.2
system folder on any partition where Tiger (or any OS X system) is
already installed.
It does not work: OS 9 must be installed first or installed on
another disk or partition...
At the very worst you have to
This is true. New machines do not ship with the Classic System
Folder. But If you have an existing Macintosh you can just copy the
System Folder over.
Todd
On Jun 27, 2005, at 6:34 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
I had heard, from a distance source, that a new Mac with Tiger
installed will not
Hi Todd and Jim,
To be more precise, I was told that you can't install an OS 9.2.2
system folder on any partition where Tiger (or any OS X system) is
already installed.
It does not work: OS 9 must be installed first or installed on
another disk or partition...
At the very worst you have to
I can't say what the general case might be, but I *can* report that I
merely copied an old System Folder from a Classic install on OS X
10.3 to my Tiger drive after installation and it seems to work fine.
I don't use it often and I surely don't push it around much, but it
hasn't crashed,
Hi Dan,
I did not try it myself.
This assertion came from authorised Apple Computer France guys I know
since many years.
So, they may be wrong or too careful :-)
Le 28 juin 05 à 18:52, Dan Shafer a écrit :
I can't say what the general case might be, but I *can* report that
I merely copied
Eric Chatonet wrote:
This assertion came from authorised Apple Computer France guys
A little industry humor:
Q: What's the difference between a used car salesman
and a computer salesman?
A: The car salesman knows when he's lying.
:)
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Media
I skimmed the thread on Tiger breaks hyperCard. I wasn't too
concerned at the time.
I'm concluding the process of the OS 9 to OS X transition, once and
for all. I'm on 10.3.9. I see its virtues. So, now I need another
machine capable of running OS X. I'm thinking about Mac Mini
since Unix came in...
Le 27 juin 05 à 21:40, Timothy Miller a écrit :
I skimmed the thread on Tiger breaks hyperCard. I wasn't too
concerned at the time.
I'm concluding the process of the OS 9 to OS X transition, once and
for all. I'm on 10.3.9. I see its virtues. So, now I need another
Unix came in...
Le 27 juin 05 à 21:40, Timothy Miller a écrit :
I skimmed the thread on Tiger breaks hyperCard. I wasn't too
concerned at the time.
I'm concluding the process of the OS 9 to OS X transition, once
and for all. I'm on 10.3.9. I see its virtues. So, now I need
another
Tim,
I have been using HyperCard in Classic ever since there was Classic.
There are two issues in Tiger that were not problems in earlier OS X: some
plugins will not load and reports made with 9 to 5 Reports do not work. Both of
these issues involve a problem with the new way Tiger
Thanks a bunch, Eric. That's a big relief.
While I'm at it, thanks to Richard Gaskin for his recent reply on
another thread regarding stack names, stack labels, file names, etc.
Tim Miller
Hi Tim,
I run a G4 bi-pro with Tiger 10.4.1.
HyperCard 2.4.1 US with many additional utilities
On 6/27/05 2:40 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:
If Tiger breaks hyperCard, it seems like it must break a lot of other
Classic applications also, true?
I don't run Tiger, but this is what I have heard:
Under Tiger, the global file paths which are stored in the Home stack
are no longer recognized
Hi Ti, Jacque and Chris,
I haven't done any new development with HC since years but I reopen
it often to get some old recipes in my huge lib.
I made some experiments running 10.4.1.
I have to add (according to Jacque and Chris comments) that HC is
located on a non-startup disk dedicated to
I had heard, from a distance source, that a new Mac with Tiger
installed will not necessarily include classic. Anybody know whether
this is true?
Jim
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Jim Hurley wrote:
I had heard, from a distance source, that a new Mac with Tiger installed
will not necessarily include classic. Anybody know whether this is true?
Tiger does not include Classic, and I don't think Jaguar did either.
So if you don't have an old install you'll have to
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