ple would track you down, but if you ever
> mentioned the application online, Apple could revoke your iPhone
> developer status.
Actually, according to John Sullivan of the EFF in his Ars Technica
article, that would be a criminal act, implying that it if convicted one
could face fi
But what about iPad ?
Le 1 mai 2010 à 19:09, Peter Haworth a écrit :
> Here's a thought for Rev - put revMobile on Android.
>
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Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and
>>> Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation...
>>> How can they do otherwise ?
>> They can change the iPhone OS to not run apps that were made from other
>> languages, or make iTunes automati
In some areas (mainly trade), it is true that multinationals are sometimes more
powerful than states, but in other cases (and "freedom" is part of it) states
and their legislation is far more powerful than the companies .
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
> On 01/05/2010 17:36
iPhone OS to not run apps that were made from other
languages, or make iTunes automatically delete those apps when you connect the
phone.
My guess is that they will allow some tools, like Rev, to work, even in the
store, and that it will all continue to just be a vendetta against Flash.
Let&#
On 01/05/2010 17:36, Colin Holgate wrote:
On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, René Micout wrote:
I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is
not possible.
I think it is a juridic debat...
Perhaps Europe could sue Apple like they sued Microsoft!
http://en.wikipe
On May 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, René Micout wrote:
> The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and
> Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation...
> How can they do otherwise ?
They can change the iPhone OS to not run apps that
And if I do that and Apple make me a procedure. In France (it is not USA) the
court, if I am wrong, condamn me, perhaps, ONE euro (symbolistic) in damages...
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:40, René Micout a écrit :
> If I develop MY application for MY iPad and if I dont put it into the App
> Store, Apple
If I develop MY application for MY iPad and if I dont put it into the App
Store, Apple cannot do anything against me
The only possibility for Apple to prohibit other language that C, C++ and
Objective C is when you submit an application for App Store approbation...
How can they do otherwise ?
The
Yes, I know, but in French "Où es-tu ... ?" is an expression to invoque
somebody to remind the present greatness of the past...
Le 1 mai 2010 à 16:29, Mark Schonewille a écrit :
> Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone application
> called Phot
On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, René Micout wrote:
> I think it is not legal (clause leonine)... In France I think this clause is
> not possible.
> I think it is a juridic debat...
Perhaps Europe could sue Apple like they sued Microsoft!
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eter, you can't make
> things with an interpretive layer. No mention of whether it's intended for
> the App Store or not.
>
> Now, it is unlikely that Apple would track you down, but if you ever
> mentioned the application online, Apple could revoke your iPhone developer
> sta
Bill is making photographs now. He also published an iPhone
application called PhotoCard :-)
http://www.billatkinson.com/aboutPhotoCard.html
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e 1 mai 2010 à 15:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
>
>> Oddly enough I see that RunRev are still marketing their
>> revMobile (which I understand to work with Windows mobile
>> as well as the iPhone OS):
>>
>> "We will be introducing a brand new product, re
ary...)
3. free (gratuit !)
?
That is the question
Bon souvenir de Paris
René
Le 1 mai 2010 à 15:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
> Oddly enough I see that RunRev are still marketing their
> revMobile (which I understand to work with Windows mobile
> as well as the iPhone OS):
>
Oddly enough I see that RunRev are still marketing their
revMobile (which I understand to work with Windows mobile
as well as the iPhone OS):
"We will be introducing a brand new product, revMobile,
which will initially support Maemo, Windows Mobile,
the iPhone and iPad."
However, a
Be free to upload and test from RevOnline
Revision Alpha 003 from 28 April:
-Splash screen react diferently if you are on IPad/Iphone or in dev
-Save/Read configuration file on your IPhone/IPad
This version is a template which could help you to prepare the structure of a
mobile application,
for
On 17/04/2010 10:10, David Glasgow wrote:
Here is El Reg's take on the new Jobsian iPhone developer rules:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/16/does_apple_code_translation_ban_everthing/
Made me smile, anyway.
David Glasgow
Frankly, I think Steve Jobs is being very silly; as far
Here is El Reg's take on the new Jobsian iPhone developer rules:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/16/does_apple_code_translation_ban_everthing/
Made me smile, anyway.
David Glasgow
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That's the same SJ who said that the future of the iPhone was in internet
"rich" app. He later changed his mind (probably under popular pressure and
witnessing what was done on jailbroken iPhones.
He may change his mind again.
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 10:30, David Bovill a écrit :
&g
On Apr 11, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> BUT; 'compatibility' is polysemantic: what is compatible with what Mr Jobs
> envisages for the iPhone/iPad may
> not encompass all the things that are otherwise compatible.
>
There's the basic problem, Stev
nces:
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BUT; 'compatibility' is polysemantic: what is compatible with what Mr
Jobs envisages for the iPhone/iPad may
not encompass all the things that are otherwise compatible.
I have a pupil (she is 10 years old) who is the prou
On Apr 11, 2010, at 4:30 AM, David Bovill wrote:
> >Not good - http://bit.ly/bnTy0D
What is comical is that although Steve is all out to prevent compatibility
layers, in his quest for perfect apps, he's ok with using Javascript and HTML5,
which I think are compatibility layers. I've done test
Not good - http://bit.ly/bnTy0D
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More info:
I've been trying out things with GameSalad and Unity too, and for both of those
I am able to build using SDK4. In both cases doing that gives me an app that
fast app switches correctly. I'm not sure how Rev makes its app files, but it
doesn't seem to be able to make an SDK4 app, even
ld be if Apple changed their rules to state that the apps must comply
with whatever OS4 features they want it to, and that they stop worrying so much
about the programming language that was used. Then Rev could make the fixes
needed so that our iPhone Rev apps do the right thing when it
).
cheers
François
Le 10 avr. 2010 à 03:26, Jerry Daniels a écrit :
> Found this post interesting:
>
> The primary reason for the change, say sources familiar with Apple's plans,
> is to support sophisticated new multitasking APIs in iPhone 4.0. The system
> will now be
Le 10 avr. 2010 à 05:57, Colin Holgate a écrit :
>
> It is quite possible that anything that is XCode based might start to behave
> properly if just recompiled under the SDK4, and that would indeed show an
> advantage of having used XCode. But what Apple could do is insist that all
> apps hono
There are a number of flaws in the arguments in that message. Currently all old
apps, proper XCode ones or non-XCode ones, don't behave correctly with the
multitasking. Some apps don't pause when you're fast app switching, and even
the ones that do pause do a start from scratch when you return t
rry quoted
"This simply doesn't pass muster.
"Except for specially flagged applications, iPhone OS 4.0 suspends every
thread of every application once that application is put in the background.
"There is literally no reason why it could not do this for applications
developed in Fl
Found this post interesting:
The primary reason for the change, say sources familiar with Apple's plans, is
to support sophisticated new multitasking APIs in iPhone 4.0. The system will
now be evaluating apps as they run in order to implement smart multitasking. It
can't do this i
There is always Android, you know. This is disturbing and distasteful, but
it is in no way surprising. Is there Rev for Android in the works? Or does
it run on Android already?
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View this message in context:
http://n4.nabble.com/doom-and-gloom-in-the-iPhone-world-tp1788757p1815142.html
Not that I want people here to be upset too, but just to make sure that Rev are
aware of what is going on...
In the iPhone 4.0 SDK agreement you now have to agree to only write your
applications in Objective-C (or Javascript playing in WebKit), and you can't
use any sort of interpret
Ian Wood wrote:
Just came across a handy list of the fonts and styles installed on the
iPhone and iPad.
http://www.michaelcritz.com/2010/04/02/fonts-for-ipad-iphone/
Handy for the people exploring revMobile.
Very helpful - thank you Ian.
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Rev training and
Just came across a handy list of the fonts and styles installed on the
iPhone and iPad.
http://www.michaelcritz.com/2010/04/02/fonts-for-ipad-iphone/
Handy for the people exploring revMobile.
Ian
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programming for the iPhone, like many I
was waiting for the alpha of revMobile to arrive, which now has :-).
I thought I would make a revlet to test stuff I wanted to do,
because I
guessed, if it works on the web, it would hopefully work on the
iPhone as well
pleased to announce that I have just released my first test
revlet into the open :-).
http://mobile.kangaroo.on-rev.com/
Several weeks ago I started programming for the iPhone, like many I
was waiting for the alpha of revMobile to arrive, which now has :-).
I thought I would make a revl
Dear List Folks,
We're excited to let you all know that we have churned out another
update to the iPhone pre-alpha. We're rather proud of it, as we have
added the following features and fixes:
- The orientation of the device can now be determined, and an
application is notifie
I am pleased to announce that I have just released my first test revlet into
the open :-).
http://mobile.kangaroo.on-rev.com/
Several weeks ago I started programming for the iPhone, like many I was waiting
for the alpha of revMobile to arrive, which now has :-).
I thought I would make a
http://www.eff.org/files/20100302_iphone_dev_agr.pdf
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> is there any support for Geo-positioning (access to where you are?)
No, not at the moment.
Cheers,
Sarah
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would too. Meanwhile, thanks for the early preview!
>
> Here is some more info:
>
> Set your stack's font to Helvetica 14, the backColor to "200,200,200"
> and the look & feel to Motif to get the best preview of how it will
> look on the iPhone without any
Perhaps of interest:
http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/11/the-iphone-tricorder-version-1.html
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On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Shao Sean wrote:
Not having used server-side rev yet (when will this be released for
us to install on our own servers?) all I can tell you is that this
is easy to do with Rev CGIs (or even a compiled Rev app running -ui)
On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Thomas McGrath I
On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Jim Ault wrote:
On-Rev does allow the use of CGI and IREV and PHP in the same
domain, the same web site, but not on the same web page (actually
you can, but you need to know a trick or two get this to work. I
will post links to some wor
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Jim Ault wrote:
On-Rev does allow the use of CGI and IREV and PHP in the same domain,
the same web site, but not on the same web page (actually you can, but
you need to know a trick or two get this to work. I will post links
to some working examples of this on my OnRev
Jim Ault wrote:
On-Rev does allow the use of CGI and IREV and PHP in the same domain,
the same web site, but not on the same web page (actually you can, but
you need to know a trick or two get this to work. I will post links to
some working examples of this on my OnRev domain when I get them
On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:24 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Yeah that's great except where do I learn about Rev CGIs in runRev?
Examples? How to's? This is complex to me.
Not likely that CGI operation will ever be documented in runRev, nor
PHP conversions to IREV.
This is partly due to the compl
Sarah, Thanks, I knew you were also learning the Obj-c stuff.
I wanted to do either show recent x number of images and or searchable
images (top twenty) and update a page on new images or coming to the
page. There may be thousands. I also want to write an iPhone viewer
app to view these
Yeah that's great except where do I learn about this in runRev?
Examples? How to's? This is complex to me.
Thanks
Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
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iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.
ze of file and type of file
// ECHO sends back to the iphone the important information which can
be trapped there for its own use
if (move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], $newName)) {
$postsize = ini_get('post_max_size'); //Not necessary, I wa
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
> Overview:
> I have been plugging away at writing an iPhone application that manipulates
> photos and uploads them online (why I have been so silent on the list for
> awhile). And except for a major confusion working with
Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Overview:
I have been plugging away at writing an iPhone application that
manipulates photos and uploads them online (why I have been so silent
on the list for awhile). And except for a major confusion working with
the internal database (still unresolved) I have been
Not having used server-side rev yet (when will this be released for us
to install on our own servers?) all I can tell you is that this is
easy to do with Rev CGIs (or even a compiled Rev app running -ui)
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Overview:
I have been plugging away at writing an iPhone application that
manipulates photos and uploads them online (why I have been so silent
on the list for awhile). And except for a major confusion working with
the internal database (still unresolved) I have been able to get
Thanks Devin, Malte,
btw. here is an interesting article on many roles apps for iPhone are
taking in people's lives:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327220.200-appland-how-smartphones-are-transforming-our-lives.html?full=true
Sorry for possible cross-posting
Vik
Stanford university has made their lectures on iPhone dev. available
through iTunes U.
http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs193p/cgi-bin/index.php
I found the courses very interesting.
Cheers,
Malte
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On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:09 AM, viktoras d. wrote:
Sarah,
I am interested, could you please post a list of these books and
resources.
Best wishes,
Viktoras
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
...
As regards who can program for the iPhone, I can recommend a couple
of
books for anyone interested in
Thanks a lot, Sarah!
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
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Learn C on the Mac
<http://www.apress.com/book/view/9781430218098>
If you know some C, but no Objective-C: Learn Objective-C on the Mac
<http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430218150?>
Then for the iPhone: Beginning iPhone 3 Development
<http://www.apress.com/book/view/9781430224594&g
Sarah,
I am interested, could you please post a list of these books and resources.
Best wishes,
Viktoras
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
...
As regards who can program for the iPhone, I can recommend a couple of
books for anyone interested in learning. While it is still C,
Objective-C is about as nice
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM, jim sims wrote:
> I'm curious, has anyone on the list actually made an iPhone app?
>
> Also curious, is there anyone here who could make an iPhone app?
>
> Reason for the questions: I'm discussing a few things with a
> potential/po
I'm curious, has anyone on the list actually made an iPhone app?
Also curious, is there anyone here who could make an iPhone app?
Reason for the questions: I'm discussing a few things with a potential/
possible client and want to be ready for all circumstances they might
throw
aded revLets in a webView window
>> from a URL within the app for other developers to use.
>
> Wouldn't that run afoul of the "no interpreted code" clause in the iPhone
> SDK?
>
> Ian
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On 24 Jul 2009, at 13:02, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
RunRev 'could' write a player App that loaded revLets in a webView
window from a URL within the app for other developers to use.
Wouldn't that run afoul of the "no interpreted code" clause i
On the iPhone an application can be built as if it were a plugin with
its own webView. This would not make the plugin available to iPhone
Safari but would make it available to the app it was built in within
its own sandbox.
RunRev 'could' write a player App that loaded revLets in
lt is possible to install plugins on the iPhone Safari, but it
requires 'jail-breaking' the phone and voiding all warranties.
George
On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Shao Sean wrote:
apple does not allow any plugins to run on the iphone
_
apple does not allow any plugins to run on the iphone
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Sorry if I missed this.
I just tried to load revWeb onto my iPhone Safari browser and it is a no go.
I've got a revWeb page build loaded onto the onRev server and it works great
on my firefox desktop.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Peter
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I've done this for a little calculation app* so that I have access via
iPhone, even using ? for * in the input field so that you don't have
to keep changing the keyboard between letters and numbers.
Ian
*It's a helper app for working out how much I can bid on different
eBay
no you can't but you can use the new on-rev service to create dynamic
web pages for the iphone (and every other browser out there).
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:23 PM, wrote:
> I've been off the list for quite a while but I'm a regular rev user. What's
> going on wit
I've been off the list for quite a while but I'm a regular rev user. What's
going on with rev as it relates to the iphone? I've got stacks I'd love to be
able to access from my iphone. Is it possible?
Jack
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>
>
> 2009/3/3 Dale Pond
>
> > MacDaily has an article describing an outfit that put Mac OS 7 on the
> > iPhone!
> > So I wrote them and asked would it run HyperCard? Here is the email
> > exchange:
> >
> > =
> > On 03/03/2
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
> I'm fairly certain that jailbreaking or unlocking an iphone is perfectly
> legal. Recent developments toward the socialization of the United States of
> America aside, this is STILL not the USSR. You pay money for it, you can do
I'm fairly certain that jailbreaking or unlocking an iphone is
perfectly legal. Recent developments toward the socialization of the
United States of America aside, this is STILL not the USSR. You pay
money for it, you can do whatever you like with it. It is however, a
violation o
I'm with Mark. I'd seen no need for an iPhone until now :-)
Bernard
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
> If you have a jailbroken iPhone --which according to Apple is illegal what
> I expect to be legal in Europe (m
If you have a jailbroken iPhone --which according to Apple is illegal
what I expect to be legal in Europe (me no lawyer)-- you can already
give it a try: <http://namedfork.net/iphone/minivmac/> This is a
different project, probably using the same source.
--
Best regards,
Mark Schon
Hi,
That's right, HyperCard will run on the iPhone. I can imagine that
version 1.0 won't run and I don't know how stable the other versions
will be. There were some issues with HC 2.2 that interferred with
Remote Access and I can imagine that this version won't be
Are you talking about TILECARD?
Stephen Barncard
-
San Francisco
http://barncard.com
2009/3/3 Dale Pond
> MacDaily has an article describing an outfit that put Mac OS 7 on the
> iPhone!
> So I wrote them and asked would it run HyperCard? Here is the email
&
MacDaily has an article describing an outfit that put Mac OS 7 on the
iPhone!
So I wrote them and asked would it run HyperCard? Here is the email
exchange:
=
On 03/03/2009 04:31, "Dale Pond" wrote:
TO: tetr...@googlemail.com
Will it run HyperCard
===
Paradigma Ships Valentina 4, Reports, Client for iPhone
Paradigma Software (http://www.paradigmasoft.com) announces the release of
ultra fast Valentina DB technology release 4 and the addition of several new
products to the Valentina DB product line, including advanced reporting
capabilities and
Hello,
Is it possible to use Rev XML commands to do that ? :
http://vixml.com/intro
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> >
>
> Lynn,
>
> iPhone web apps can't access goodies such as location api or
> file uploads or file access or camera
Sure, that's right. There's a wealth of APIs that come with the iPhone SDK.
But then it comes down to what kind of app y
On Oct 12, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
... get a real-time,
constantly updating display of this instrument's current value, in
full screen on the iPhone. It is very cool to be perched on the top of
a ladder, a long way away from any computer, filling a large tank
while wat
> Apple reps have strongly emphasized that implementing a pure web solution is
> the least trouble. It makes a lot of sense to me to go this route unless
> there's some major performance issue, like creating a game that requires
> some sort of local acceleration.
>
Lynn,
i
se use.
>
> I plan to do 1 & 3 but also mainly 4. Meanwhile, I have some
> Rev apps producing static web pages customized to normal
> browsers or the iPhone and a Rev cgi server producing dynamic
> pages, again specifically designed to display well on the iPhone.
Apple r
> It seems to me that to approach iPhone development confidently you need to
> either:
>
> 1. Develop something that isnt your core revenue generator and accept the
> risk, or
>
> 2. Have a relationship with Apple that gives you the confidence you need to
> move forward
, but after a
while, you would get your catridges so long as you didn't break any of the
well documented rules. You had the same monopolistic situation but, you
didn't have to worry about the rug being pulled out from under you.
It seems to me that to approach iPhone development confidently
Chipp Walters wrote:
Here's a good example of what I mean.
http://almerica.blogspot.com/2008/09/podcaster-rejeceted-because-it.html
Apple presents some strong arguments for the idea that we've outlived
the usefulness of operating systems as proprietary things. ;)
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Here's a good example of what I mean.
http://almerica.blogspot.com/2008/09/podcaster-rejeceted-because-it.html
This guy wrote a podcaster app, which can grab podcasts over the
internet directly to the iPhone. This is something many users would
like to be able to do. It's not as
On Oct 11, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Jim Sims wrote:
I've submit my application to
the developer program in august and till today, I haven't been
approved.
Just for comparison, I applied within an hour of the announcement
earlier in the year, and it still took about four months to be accepted.
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On Oct 11, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
I believe you could and bought the phone thinking, at least, I'll do
software for myself, that is not true. I've submit my application to
the developer program in august and till today, I haven't been
approved.
I am getting tired.
Work around
On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
As for App Store considerations, a lot of people use tools like Rev
for
making things for themselves. You can publish iPhone apps to your
own iPhone
without having to get it approved by Apple.
No you can't. I have an iPhone and th
Hello,
> As for App Store considerations, a lot of people use tools like Rev for
> making things for themselves. You can publish iPhone apps to your own iPhone
> without having to get it approved by Apple.
No you can't. I have an iPhone and the SDK and the latest revision of
e
Cheers back dear Sarah,
I couldn't agree with you more. Not knowing what direction Apple may
take at any point in time would make developing without some sort of
pre-approval; or, at least, approval of concept a most hazardous
venture. On the other hand, I can see that many developers would
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>> If you actually read all the info about the relatively few cases where
>> this has happened, it becomes clear that the pulled apps really were
>> in breach of the iPhone developer agreement.
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> If you actually read all the info about the relatively few cases where
> this has happened, it becomes clear that the pulled apps really were
> in breach of the iPhone deve
> I've experience in quite a few languages, and I have to say, I too find
> Obj-C a bit hard to swallow. I even prefer smalltalk to Obj C.
I believe that now the iPhone Developer's NDA has been relaxed, we
should start to see more tutorials appear.
> However,
> wh
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