Re: 0.4

2011-06-29 Thread David Jencks
Hi Oliver one more comment :-) On Jun 29, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Oliver Lietz wrote: > Am Wednesday 29 June 2011 schrieb David Jencks: >> Hi Oliver, > > hi David, > >> maven != osgi. >> >> I think the document about how the bundle is intended to be used is the >> bundle manifest. The pom is the

Re: 0.4

2011-06-29 Thread Oliver Lietz
Am Wednesday 29 June 2011 schrieb David Jencks: > Hi Oliver, hi David, > maven != osgi. > > I think the document about how the bundle is intended to be used is the > bundle manifest. The pom is there to build the bundle. If you want to > use the pom for something else, that's kind of your prob

Re: 0.4

2011-06-29 Thread David Jencks
Hi Oliver, maven != osgi. I think the document about how the bundle is intended to be used is the bundle manifest. The pom is there to build the bundle. If you want to use the pom for something else, that's kind of your problem. If you describe sufficiently clearly how you want to use the p

Re: 0.4

2011-06-29 Thread Oliver Lietz
Am Wednesday 29 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: > The pom clearly "works" since we build the bundle correctly using it. I'm > betting you are trying to use it in a way we didn't intend so can you > provide information on what you are doing so we can look into it? haha - nice one. Is there a

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Alasdair Nottingham
The pom clearly "works" since we build the bundle correctly using it. I'm betting you are trying to use it in a way we didn't intend so can you provide information on what you are doing so we can look into it? Alasdair Nottingham On 28 Jun 2011, at 23:21, Oliver Lietz wrote: > Am Wednesday 29

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Oliver Lietz
Am Wednesday 29 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: > Alasdair Nottingham > > On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:46, Oliver Lietz wrote: > > Am Tuesday 28 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: > >> Alasdair Nottingham > >> > >> On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:06, Oliver Lietz wrote: > >>> Am Monday 27 June 2011 s

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Alasdair Nottingham
Alasdair Nottingham On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:46, Oliver Lietz wrote: > Am Tuesday 28 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: >> Alasdair Nottingham >> >> On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:06, Oliver Lietz wrote: >>> Am Monday 27 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: Hi, >>> >>> hey, >>> I don't

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Oliver Lietz
Am Tuesday 28 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: > Alasdair Nottingham > > On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:06, Oliver Lietz wrote: > > Am Monday 27 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: > >> Hi, > > > > hey, > > > >> I don't think there are any "plans". In the past releases have been more > >> "on d

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Alasdair Nottingham
Alasdair Nottingham On 28 Jun 2011, at 22:06, Oliver Lietz wrote: > Am Monday 27 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: >> Hi, > > hey, > >> I don't think there are any "plans". In the past releases have been more >> "on demand". >> >> After the 0.3 release we decided to move to a pre-bundl

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Oliver Lietz
Am Monday 27 June 2011 schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: > Hi, hey, > I don't think there are any "plans". In the past releases have been more > "on demand". > > After the 0.3 release we decided to move to a pre-bundle release process so > their wont be a big 0.4 release like there were previously. S

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Harald Wellmann
Am 28.06.2011 17:57, schrieb Jacek Laskowski: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote: Isn't what OSGi versioning (for bundles and packages) is supposed to take care of? Oh yes, the OSGi runtime will complain when there's a version mismatch... But I'd really like to take care of

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Bengt Rodehav
OK - I trust you guys... Just need to know whether I need to update any of my other Aries projects when I upgrade the JPA part. I'm also using Blueprint, JTA and JNDI (as most others using JPA I guess). On the Aries web it looks like 0.3 is the latest version of everything but in Maven central I c

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Alasdair Nottingham
Hi, As pointed out OSGi versioning does help here. We have put the infrastructure in place to do distributions which include multiple things collected together. I'm not sure if we will do that here though. In general the latest releases of things will have been tested together prior to release. A

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Bengt Rodehav
Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm just a little sloppy when it comes to OSGi versioning myself... /Bengt 2011/6/28 Jacek Laskowski > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote: > > > Now that you seem to release the sub projects independently (which I > guess > > is good since it enabl

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Jacek Laskowski
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bengt Rodehav wrote: > Now that you seem to release the sub projects independently (which I guess > is good since it enables more frequent releases) it is important to document > what versions of the different sub projects are compatible with each other > (and tha

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Bengt Rodehav
lable it should be possible for us to > get > > the build into a release-able state > > > > Regards, > > > > Tim > > > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:18:51 + > > Subject: Re: 0.4 > > From: younes.ou...@gm

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Jeremy Hughes
, but now that Equinox > 3.7 and the OSGi 4.3 API are available it should be possible for us to get > the build into a release-able state > > Regards, > > Tim > > > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:18:51 + > Subject: Re: 0.4 > From: youne

RE: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Timothy Ward
: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:18:51 + Subject: Re: 0.4 From: younes.ou...@gmail.com To: user@aries.apache.org Hello Alasdair, I endorse the point of view of both Bengt and Harald. It will be very interesting to release the enhancement allowing the runtime enhancer. This feature is more 'compat

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Younes Ouadi
Hello Alasdair, I endorse the point of view of both Bengt and Harald. It will be very interesting to release the enhancement allowing the runtime enhancer. This feature is more 'compatible' with the loose-coupling best-practice. Why should my 'entities bundles' know about their JPA Provider? I be

Re: 0.4

2011-06-28 Thread Bengt Rodehav
Thanks for your reply Alasdair, Reading the documentation about the JPA support it seems like in 0.4, it is no longer necessary to list all classes in the persistence.xml. That's an improvement I'm really interested in which is why asked about the 0.4 release. I also use Karaf+Camel and I'm used t

Re: 0.4

2011-06-27 Thread Harald Wellmann
Am 27.06.2011 21:01, schrieb Alasdair Nottingham: Do you need a release? I've successfully tested OpenJPA enhancement at deployment time using Aries 0.4-SNAPSHOT and an Equinox 3.7 release candidate. AFAIK, OSGi weaving hooks are not yet supported in Aries 0.3. Build time enhancement in O

Re: 0.4

2011-06-27 Thread Alasdair Nottingham
Hi, I don't think there are any "plans". In the past releases have been more "on demand". After the 0.3 release we decided to move to a pre-bundle release process so their wont be a big 0.4 release like there were previously. Some bundles might be at 0.4 and some at 0.3.1. Do you need a release?