Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Dakota Jack wrote: > Well, I don't know what "that's that" means. I have nothing to prove > here. If you don't want to participate in a discussion on this, I > guess that is that. I've been participating in this discussion Jack, long before you got involved. What I meant, which I thought was cl

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
Well, I don't know what "that's that" means. I have nothing to prove here. If you don't want to participate in a discussion on this, I guess that is that. On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:14:08 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it a facade that results in the UI as described in my

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Is it a facade that results in the UI as described in my previous post? If not, than the solution does not meet the requirements, and that's that. Dakota Jack wrote: What a user sees is not important in this example, because the reality is always completely hidden. Look at the code a bit and yo

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser[Scanned]

2005-03-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Dakota Jack wrote: Not exactly true that there is no "hidden" file input field. As I pointed out previously in this thread, that is true. As you well know though, you can hide a field via CSS. That is what I was referring to. -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex T

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser[Scanned]

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
ements using java in way that they don't get > >>rendered? > >> > >>-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >>Von: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Gesendet: Dienstag, 01. März 2005 00:45 > >>An: Struts Users Mailing List > >

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
What a user sees is not important in this example, because the reality is always completely hidden. Look at the code a bit and you will see the point. While the code looks like it is complicated, it is mostly repeats, since I provide a facade for twelve differing tags. Note that this uses an t

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
You did post a rather lengthy example. Honestly, I didn't have time to look through it. If you can distill it down to just the pertinent portion, I'd be interested in seeing it. To reiterate... you need to construct a UI such that a user can select multiple files but WILL NOT see multiple el

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser[Scanned]

2005-03-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
at they don't get rendered? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 01. März 2005 00:45 An: Struts Users Mailing List Betreff: Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser Ah, didn't see this until I posted that form code :) This is what

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
Yes, Brandon, this is completely mistaken. Just look at any request handler for multipart requests and you will see how wrong it is. All interesting multipart request wrappers have a method to return FILES! ///;-) On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:23:29 -0500, Brandon Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
I think I showed this to Frank about a half year ago. The code that shows it is in the post to him yesterday. I may have showed someone else, but I am pretty sure it was Frank. Wasn't it Frnak? On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:58:32 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, let me play a

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
t they don't get > rendered? > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 01. März 2005 00:45 > An: Struts Users Mailing List > Betreff: Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser > > Ah, didn't see this until I

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
You can get around these. I sent Frank some code yesterday that gets around the security issues. He was not particularly interested in that, however, but the code is there if you are. On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:49:42 -0600, Jason King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haven't tried this lately but there

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
I don't think you could do this with a tag, but I do think you could do it with a facade tag using JavaScript acting as a facde for the tag. On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:45:07 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, didn't see this until I posted that form code :) > > This is what

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Dakota Jack
I assume that everyone knew that you could do multiple uploads? Is that the question? On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:39:28 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This debate is simply put to rest... Just download the sample webapp I > referenced in my last post and run it. Tim is 100% ri

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Again, I HIGHLY suggest grabing the sample webapp I posted last night. It should put this entire debate to rest. You DO NOT have to use multipart/mixed to handle multiple files with one post. This webapp clearly proves that. I guess I can't say for sure that the browser isn't doing something

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
This debate is simply put to rest... Just download the sample webapp I referenced in my last post and run it. Tim is 100% right in his explanation. -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com Slattery, Tim - BLS wrote: Yes, I can. The l

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Brandon Mercer
Slattery, Tim - BLS wrote: Yes, I can. The limitation is that for every post or get, you can only have ONE multipart/mime file. When you have multiple elements you actually perform multiple posts to submit each one. I disagree. You can have any number of elements in a web page. Any su

RE: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-03-01 Thread Slattery, Tim - BLS
> Yes, I can. The limitation is that for every post or get, > you can only have ONE multipart/mime file. When you > have multiple elements you actually perform multiple > posts to submit each one. I disagree. You can have any number of elements in a web page. Any such page must be POSTed

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Ok, so before I go off to bed, I have good news and I have bad news... The good news is that you can go grab the complete example webapp now: http://www.zammetti.com/multifileupload.zip The bad news however is that part of this doesn't appear to be possible... Those pesky scripting security issues

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Brandon Mercer wrote: > Yes, I can. The limitation is that for every post or get, you can only > have ONE multipart/mime file. When you have multiple elements > you actually perform multiple posts to submit each one. That's why an > applet is necessary. With respect Brandon, this is incorrect.

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Brandon Mercer
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: How is it a limitation Brandon? It IS in fact possible to upload multiple files at one time... The only thing that isn't possible is selecting more than one file at a time using nothing but a form element. Can you elaborate on what the limitation is? Yes, I can. The

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
How is it a limitation Brandon? It IS in fact possible to upload multiple files at one time... The only thing that isn't possible is selecting more than one file at a time using nothing but a form element. Can you elaborate on what the limitation is? -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief So

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Brandon Mercer
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: Ok, let me play a bit tonight and see what I can come up with. I'm more worried about the server-side processing than the front-end, but even that shouldn't be terrible. I'll let you know what I come up with tomorrow... The problems you all are talking about are limit

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Ok, let me play a bit tonight and see what I can come up with. I'm more worried about the server-side processing than the front-end, but even that shouldn't be terrible. I'll let you know what I come up with tomorrow... -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technol

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Rakefet Bitton
Frank W. Zammetti omnytex.com> writes: > > If this is something that is interesting to enough people, I would mind > throwing a real tag together with some options and such, perhaps a > couple of different UI presentations, etc. > I am definitely interested in this. This is exactly what I ne

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Yep, that's the one concern I had when I mentioned the scripting security issues. As I recall, and I could be wrong, the problem isn't actually reading or writing the filename, it's just a text field for all intents and purposes as far as that goes, but trying to submit the form via scripting

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Jason King
Haven't tried this lately but there used to be security restrictions about reading the filename in elements or writing the filename. Frank W. Zammetti wrote: Ah, didn't see this until I posted that form code :) This is what I was talking about with the "better ways to present the UI " comment.

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Ah, didn't see this until I posted that form code :) This is what I was talking about with the "better ways to present the UI " comment. I would have to test it, but I *think* you should be able to have a single element that is visible, with a number of hidden ones, and for each file you selec

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Rakefet Bitton
Frank W. Zammetti omnytex.com> writes: > > You can have as many elements in a form as you want, and you can > process them all at once. My web host (LunarPages) has a decent file > manager, one of the functions it has is the ability to upload up to 12 > files at a time. > > I don't know of

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
You can have as many elements in a form as you want, and you can process them all at once. My web host (LunarPages) has a decent file manager, one of the functions it has is the ability to upload up to 12 files at a time. I don't know of any single tag to render such a form, but that's really

Re: AW: Multi-select file chooser

2005-02-28 Thread Nic Werner
Ah, I looked at it that he was selecting files from a directory tree, not entering into a text field Günther Wieser wrote: this is standard browser behaviour, haven't seen any browser who would allow you to select more than one file. reason for that is that your form only includes one form field