Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-06 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-10-05 03:30, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: From: Marc Paré [mailto:m...@marcpare.com] Thanks to all the people who answered this. It seems whether LibreOffice is partially or completely compliant to OASIS version 1.2 is more complicated to establish for non-dev

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-05 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: From: Marc Paré [mailto:m...@marcpare.com] Thanks to all the people who answered this. It seems whether LibreOffice is partially or completely compliant to OASIS version 1.2 is more complicated to establish for non-dev people. LibO is, like OOo, an extended

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-05 Thread Pedro
Thank you for the link, Thorsten (I can't CC you because Nabble doesn't allow that) Thorsten Behrens wrote: LibO is, like OOo, an extended conformance producer/consumer of ODF1.2, in its default setup. Choosing ODF format version 1.2 in Tools-Options-Load/Save-General makes it produce

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-05 Thread Tom
Hi :) As Thorsten said, almost any case of non-conformance is considered a bug. There are some bug-reports posted about specific examples of non-conformance which get posted when people find examples of non-conformance and feel up to the challenge of posting a bug-report about it. Many

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-05 Thread Pedro
Tom wrote: Many programs don't fully comply with their own specs. The fact that many programs do that makes it correct? Tom wrote: OpenSource ones tend to try to fix that through bug-reports and such-like. We often grumble when we find an example of a proprietary program, such as

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-05 Thread Pedro
Hi Tom Tom wrote: We are making a big fuss about very trivial differences. How do you know they are trivial? In the document I referred previously in this topic, after conversion to ODF, which took me a few hours, opening in Abiword 2.9.1 or Textmaker 2012 (Beta) is useless. The only

[libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-04 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-10-01 20:11, Marc Paré a écrit : Hi Deni Le 2011-09-30 21:17, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : The OASIS ODF 1.2 Committee Specification 01 has been successfully advanced to an OASIS Standard,http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201109/msg00010.html. The final ballot results

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
orcmid comment=below / -Original Message- From: Marc Paré [mailto:m...@marcpare.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 03:35 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: disc...@documentfoundation.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved [ ... ] Thanks to all

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@documentfoundation.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved [ ... ] Congrats to the team, great news! I was wondering if we were already compliant with ODF1.2? If so we should market this along with LibreOffice -- backwards compatibility being fully supported of course

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-02 Thread Tom Davies
: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: disc...@documentfoundation.org Date: Monday, 3 October, 2011, 1:52 Marc asks: How conformant is LibreOffice as a producer and consumer of the OASIS ODF 1.2 Standard? I don't know how to assess that.  I assume

[libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Pedro
Congratulations to all. I believe that a solid open file format is extremely important. Am I correct to assume that ODF 1.2 is backward compatible? I.e. an old application will still be able to open a ODF 1.2 document? Dennis, one curiosity since you were one of the editors: I assume you

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Tom Davies
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 1 October, 2011, 10:39 Congratulations to all. I believe that a solid open file format is extremely important. Am I correct to assume that ODF 1.2 is backward compatible? I.e. an old

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dag Wieers
On Sat, 1 Oct 2011, Tom Davies wrote: All releases of LibreOffice have used the 1.2 (Extended) by default.  I think OpenOffice was using it for quite a long time before that too.  I think the only program that still uses the older 1.1 or 1.0 formats is MS Office 2010.  I think Google-docs,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Pedro wrote (01-10-11 11:39) Am I correct to assume that ODF 1.2 is backward compatible? I.e. an old application will still be able to open a ODF 1.2 document? Yes. Of course, some content (from the new standard) may be wrong. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe

[libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Pedro
Cor Nouws wrote: Pedro wrote (01-10-11 11:39) Am I correct to assume that ODF 1.2 is backward compatible? I.e. an old application will still be able to open a ODF 1.2 document? Yes. Of course, some content (from the new standard) may be wrong. Excellent! More Kudos to all that were

[libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread NoOp
On 10/01/2011 02:39 AM, Pedro wrote: Congratulations to all. I believe that a solid open file format is extremely important. Am I correct to assume that ODF 1.2 is backward compatible? I.e. an old application will still be able to open a ODF 1.2 document? Dennis, one curiosity since

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 04:56 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved Hi :) All releases of LibreOffice have used the 1.2 (Extended) by default. I think OpenOffice was using

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
1.2 support to settle down and the level of interoperability to be raised across the board. -Original Message- From: Pedro [mailto:pedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 05:16 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved Congratulations to all. I believe that a solid open file format is extremely important. Am I correct to assume that ODF 1.2 is backward compatible? I.e. an old application will still be able to open

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved On Sat, 1 Oct 2011, Tom Davies wrote: All releases of LibreOffice have used the 1.2 (Extended) by default. I think OpenOffice was using it for quite a long time before that too. I think the only program that still uses

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. That's the extent of the details I've seen. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro [mailto:pedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 06:34 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved Cor Nouws wrote: Pedro wrote (01-10

[libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Pedro
Dennis, thank you for all the answers. Sincerely, I'm surprised that you used Writer to edit a 1200 pages document. I had to submit a 51 page report in Word and it was an absolute nightmare... (BTW opening the same document in LO 3.4.3 shows how far cross-compatibility still is :) ) Since ODF

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved Dennis, thank you for all the answers. Sincerely, I'm surprised that you used Writer to edit a 1200 pages document. I had to submit a 51 page report in Word and it was an absolute nightmare... (BTW opening the same document in LO 3.4.3 shows how far cross

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:36 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved A while back, Microsoft offered a warranty with regard to ODF 1.2 support. I believe it is contingent on ISO standardization occurring

[libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-01 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Deni Le 2011-09-30 21:17, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : The OASIS ODF 1.2 Committee Specification 01 has been successfully advanced to an OASIS Standard,http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/201109/msg00010.html. The final ballot results for approval of OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 is