Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 8:09 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: I usually ignore the "nothing to do" situation as well and just issue the command again the next time I'm ready to put on updates again. It is a bit disconcerting though when Discover reports there being, in my case 638MB of Fedora System Updates

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 7:59 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 28/6/21 10:12, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 4:12 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: While we are on the topic of updates with dnf, I have noticed that when dnf goes

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/6/21 10:18, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 08:11, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 4:27 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 28/6/21 04:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 5:34 a.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote: I have not had a situation where an update was

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Chris Murphy
PackageKit uses libdnf. libdnf is the core library for dnf,PackageKit and rpm-ostree. You should generally get the same results using either dnf or PackageKit. -- Chris Murphy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/6/21 10:12, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 4:12 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: While we are on the topic of updates with dnf, I have noticed that when dnf goes to a mirror to find an update, if it can't find

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/6/21 09:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 07:06, Stephen Morris wrote: On 28/6/21 05:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 4:28 a.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages.

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 10:26, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/27/21 7:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 10:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/27/21 6:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 09:44, Ed Greshko wrote: and [root@f33k ~]# ls -i /var/named/chroot/var/named/slaves/

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/27/21 7:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 10:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/27/21 6:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 09:44, Ed Greshko wrote: and [root@f33k ~]# ls -i /var/named/chroot/var/named/slaves/ /var/named/slaves/ /var/named/chroot/var/named/slaves/:

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 10:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/27/21 6:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 09:44, Ed Greshko wrote: and [root@f33k ~]# ls -i /var/named/chroot/var/named/slaves/ /var/named/slaves/ /var/named/chroot/var/named/slaves/: 2415417 greshko.com.zone /var/named/slaves/:

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/27/21 6:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 09:44, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 09:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/27/21 5:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 06:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/26/21 7:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/25/21 12:24 AM, Tim

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 09:44, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 09:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/27/21 5:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 06:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/26/21 7:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/25/21 12:24 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2021-06-24

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 09:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/27/21 5:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 06:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/26/21 7:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/25/21 12:24 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 21:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/27/21 5:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/06/2021 06:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/26/21 7:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/25/21 12:24 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 21:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am trying to clean up my bind-chroot forward

conflict between mythtv and rtl-sdr

2021-06-27 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
After a recent update which installed rtl-sdr-0.6.0-9.fc34.x86_64 mythbackend failed to see the tuners. This was caused by these permissions: crw-rw+ 1 root rtlsdr 212, 3 Jun 20 23:10 /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 set by /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/10-rtl-sdr.rules and

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 06:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/26/21 7:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/25/21 12:24 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 21:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am trying to clean up my bind-chroot forward and reverse files. The goal is to

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 08:11, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 4:27 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 28/6/21 04:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 5:34 a.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote: I have not had a situation where an update was performed and immediately followed by

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 4:12 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: While we are on the topic of updates with dnf, I have noticed that when dnf goes to a mirror to find an update, if it can't find the package it produces a 404 error,

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 4:27 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 28/6/21 04:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 5:34 a.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote: I have not had a situation where an update was performed and immediately followed by a need for another update.  I do my

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 07:12, Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: I hadn't realised Discover was using Packagekit. If it is using different mirrors to dnf and they indicate they have updates over and above what dnf has applied, does

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/06/2021 07:06, Stephen Morris wrote: On 28/6/21 05:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 4:28 a.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/6/21 04:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 5:34 a.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote: I have not had a situation where an update was performed and immediately followed by a need for another update.  I do my updates with "dnf --refresh update". The only thing

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 27/6/21 22:52, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:45, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: I hadn't realised Discover was using Packagekit. If it is using different mirrors to dnf and they indicate they have updates over and

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 27/6/21 22:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: I hadn't realised Discover was using Packagekit. If it is using different mirrors to dnf and they indicate they have updates over and above what dnf has applied, does that mean dnf will catch up, or are they 

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 28/6/21 05:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 4:28 a.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still

Re: bind-chroot not duplicating my forward and reverse tables

2021-06-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/26/21 7:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/25/21 12:24 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 21:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am trying to clean up my bind-chroot forward and reverse files. The goal is to have bind-chroot do its thing by duplicating these two

Re: scilab

2021-06-27 Thread Jonathan Billings
> On Jun 27, 2021, at 17:16, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > /usr/lib64/gtk-3.0/modules > > but still > /usr/local/scilab-6.1.0/bin/scilab > Gtk-Message: 23:13:39.716: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" > > also: > /usr/local/scilab-6.1.0/bin/scilab-bin > > error while

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 12:33 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 3:44 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > > > > > Interesting. That sounds superficially similar to Android's A/B > > system > > update method. Is there work being done on getting this into > > Fedora? > > > >

Re: scilab

2021-06-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/lib64/gtk-3.0/modules but still /usr/local/scilab-6.1.0/bin/scilab Gtk-Message: 23:13:39.716: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" also: /usr/local/scilab-6.1.0/bin/scilab-bin error while loading shared libraries: libscilab-cli.so.6: cannot open shared object file:

Re: background application

2021-06-27 Thread Matti Pulkkinen
su, 2021-06-27 kello 12:58 -0700, Samuel Sieb kirjoitti: > > How do I manage these extensions? > > [...] In F34, there's a new Extensions app. Which is in the gnome-extensions-app package. As for what could be causing the issue with the Nextcloud client, one other thing I thought of is that

Re: scilab

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/27/21 1:49 PM, John Mellor wrote: On 2021-06-27 9:18 a.m., Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, Trying to run scilab under fedora34 '/usr/local/scilab-6.1.0/bin/scilab) from the files available on the scilab web site, I get Gtk-Message: 15:06:56.350: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" dnf

Re: scilab

2021-06-27 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-06-27 9:18 a.m., Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, Trying to run scilab under fedora34 '/usr/local/scilab-6.1.0/bin/scilab) from the files available on the scilab web site, I get Gtk-Message: 15:06:56.350: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'pk-gtk-module'

slow startup process and dmesg times

2021-06-27 Thread Anil F Duggirala
hello, I am looking at output from dmesg on my laptop and there appears to be a time when a process takes longer than what might be expected and I think this may be reducing my startup speed. My question is, is it normal for there to be a jump in time (timestamp) from 7 seconds to 18

Re: background application

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 12:50 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote: This is exactly right. I am using gnome. Now, I installed gnome-shell-extension-appindicator but I do not see any difference concerning nextcloud. How do I manage these extensions? In F33, use gnome-tweaks. In F34, there's a new Extensions app.

Re: background application

2021-06-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
This is exactly right. I am using gnome. Now, I installed gnome-shell-extension-appindicator but I do not see any difference concerning nextcloud. How do I manage these extensions? > On 2021-06-27 7:40 a.m., Matti Pulkkinen wrote: > > su, 2021-06-27 kello 09:23 +0200, Patrick Dupre kirjoitti:

Re: background application

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 7:40 a.m., Matti Pulkkinen wrote: su, 2021-06-27 kello 09:23 +0200, Patrick Dupre kirjoitti: Thanks for the suggestions. Indeed, the behavior of nextcloud is a bit strange I was wrong it is not launched when the machine is turned on. The user launches it, but the interface

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 4:28 a.m., Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still telling me there was 628 MB of F34

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 5:34 a.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote: I have not had a situation where an update was performed and immediately followed by a need for another update.  I do my updates with "dnf --refresh update". The only thing I've seen is when packageKit is

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 3:44 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Interesting. That sounds superficially similar to Android's A/B system > update method. Is there work being done on getting this into Fedora? > Folks are looking at multiple ways of doing it. All options imply some kind of layout

Re: background application

2021-06-27 Thread Matti Pulkkinen
su, 2021-06-27 kello 09:23 +0200, Patrick Dupre kirjoitti: > Thanks for the suggestions. > > Indeed, the behavior of nextcloud is a bit strange > I was wrong it is not launched when the machine is turned on. > The user launches it, but the interface disappear as soon as the mouse > is moved >

scilab

2021-06-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, Trying to run scilab under fedora34 '/usr/local/scilab-6.1.0/bin/scilab) from the files available on the scilab web site, I get Gtk-Message: 15:06:56.350: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'pk-gtk-module' does not provide any information rpmfind provides

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/06/2021 20:45, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: I hadn't realised Discover was using Packagekit. If it is using different mirrors to dnf and they indicate they have updates over and above what dnf has applied, does that

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/06/2021 20:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: I hadn't realised Discover was using Packagekit. If it is using different mirrors to dnf and they indicate they have updates over and above what dnf has applied, does that mean dnf will catch up, or are they 

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/06/2021 20:34, Stephen Morris wrote: I hadn't realised Discover was using Packagekit. If it is using different mirrors to dnf and they indicate they have updates over and above what dnf has applied, does that mean dnf will catch up, or are they updates that dnf will  never put on because 

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 27/6/21 22:30, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:24, Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 21:28, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 27/6/21 22:23, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 20:00, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 18:31 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,   I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/06/2021 20:24, Stephen Morris wrote: On 27/6/21 21:28, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 27/6/21 21:28, Ed Greshko wrote: On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still telling me there was 628 MB of F34 Platform

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/06/2021 20:00, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 18:31 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still telling me there

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2021-06-27 at 18:31 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > Hi, > I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think > upgraded > 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran > discovery and it was still telling me there was 628 MB of F34 > Platform > updates

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/06/2021 16:31, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still telling me there was 628 MB of F34 Platform updates to put on, which I did put

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/06/2021 16:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-06-27 1:31 a.m., Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still telling me there was 628 MB of F34

rpmbuild

2021-06-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I am trying to generate a rpm package from the sources of perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot-0.72 I run cpanspec to generate the .spec file (see below) and I get. setting SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH=1624752000 Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.iQt9av + umask 022 + cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD +

Re: DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-27 1:31 a.m., Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still telling me there was 628 MB of F34 Platform updates to put on, which I did

DNF not Installing all Updates?

2021-06-27 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     I have just done a sudo dnf upgrade on F34 which I think upgraded 1311 packages. After the update finished I rebooted F34 and then ran discovery and it was still telling me there was 628 MB of F34 Platform updates to put on, which I did put on. Why is dnf not installing all updates

Re: background application

2021-06-27 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thanks for the suggestions. Indeed, the behavior of nextcloud is a bit strange I was wrong it is not launched when the machine is turned on. The user launches it, but the interface disappear as soon as the mouse is moved away, but the application still run. It make difficult to interact with the