Re: System hung over night

2018-07-27 Thread Tim Evans
On 07/27/2018 02:11 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 07/26/2018 11:42 AM, Frédéric wrote: Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? I don't know about backups, but so far I haven't had any random system lockups like I was getting before. 4.17.7 has been solid for me as

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 11:11 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/26/2018 11:42 AM, Frédéric wrote: > > Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? > > I don't know about backups, but so far I haven't had any random system > lockups like I was getting before. Same here. poc

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/26/2018 11:42 AM, Frédéric wrote: Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? I don't know about backups, but so far I haven't had any random system lockups like I was getting before. ___ users mailing list --

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-27 Thread Frédéric
>> Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? > > Before kernerl 4.17.7, I had issues during my duplicity-based backups. > > With kernel 4.17.7, no issue to date. > I've been testing it since its release in Fedora 28. thanks, I think I will upgrade. Regards, F

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-27 Thread Frédéric
>> Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? > Define "backups. I refer to the previous posts about broken backups. Personnaly I use rsnapshot that uses rsync. > I'm using it and had no issues using rsync to back up > to an external drive on both a desktop machine and a

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-26 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Frédéric wrote: > Hi, > Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? > Hi, Before kernerl 4.17.7, I had issues during my duplicity-based backups. With kernel 4.17.7, no issue to date. I've been testing it since its release in Fedora 28.

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/26/2018 11:42 AM, Frédéric wrote: > Hi, > Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? Define "backups." I'm using it and had no issues using rsync to back up to an external drive on both a desktop machine and a laptop: # nice -n 19 /bin/rsync -av -S

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-26 Thread Frédéric
Hi, Has anyone tested the new kernel 4.17.7? Any issues during backups? Regards, F ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:55:58 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I'll be interested to see if both stay up for several days now, > or perhaps the router keeps crashing, but at least the system stays > up. (In which case it is time for new router I guess, or at least time > to check for new router

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 15:35 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/16/2018 05:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 06:26 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: > > > > On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > Where do

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 16:10 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 07/20/2018 03:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 07/16/2018 05:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 06:26 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 15 Jul

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/20/2018 03:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/16/2018 05:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 06:26 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Where do I set how many kernels to

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/20/2018 06:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 07/16/2018 05:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 06:26 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where do I set how many kernels to keep? If I have

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/16/2018 05:37 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 06:26 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where do I set how many kernels to keep? If I have to fall back to 17.3, I am going to have more

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/19/2018 08:55 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:12:12 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: What model router? It is an ASUS RT-AC5300 https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/rt-ac5300/rt-ac5300.html (from the way the router is positioned you can also deduce I'm not married :-). What

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:12:12 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > What model router? It is an ASUS RT-AC5300 https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/rt-ac5300/rt-ac5300.html (from the way the router is positioned you can also deduce I'm not married :-). > What services?  First place I would look at is DHCPD

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/19/2018 07:42 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:36:30 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: I guess I'll see if it happens again, or was just a one time thing. It did OK for 1 night, then I found it crashed again this morning, and the router crashed the same way as well. I'm booted

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:36:30 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I guess I'll see if it happens again, or was just a one time thing. It did OK for 1 night, then I found it crashed again this morning, and the router crashed the same way as well. I'm booted back on the 4.16.16-300.fc28.x86_64 kernel now

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-18 Thread antonio montagnani
SternData ha scritto il 18/07/2018 alle 20:23: On 07/15/2018 07:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at full speed.  I tried to log in to the locked system, but no response.  I had to power cycle.  Looking back

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-18 Thread SternData
On 07/15/2018 07:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my > system fan going at full speed.  I tried to log in to the locked system, > but no response.  I had to power cycle.  Looking back in messages, the > last messages were right

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/17/2018 10:36 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:04:49 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Could it have been a simple case of a spike on mains power? I suppose, but there were no messages from my UPS which generally whines about stuff like that. Maybe it was a test of an alien EMP

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 22:04:49 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Could it have been a simple case of a spike on mains power? I suppose, but there were no messages from my UPS which generally whines about stuff like that. Maybe it was a test of an alien EMP device :-). I guess I'll see if it happens

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/17/18 21:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 07/17/2018 09:22 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> Probably a completely different problem, but my system also >> crashed last night, and my router crashed as well. In fact >> I suspect the router crash took down my system. The last >> thing in the log

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/17/18 21:22, Tom Horsley wrote: > Probably a completely different problem, but my system also > crashed last night, and my router crashed as well. In fact > I suspect the router crash took down my system. The last > thing in the log was a message I've never seen before > about networkd

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/17/2018 09:22 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: Probably a completely different problem, but my system also crashed last night, and my router crashed as well. In fact I suspect the router crash took down my system. The last thing in the log was a message I've never seen before about networkd

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
Probably a completely different problem, but my system also crashed last night, and my router crashed as well. In fact I suspect the router crash took down my system. The last thing in the log was a message I've never seen before about networkd service watchdog timeout. (didn't appear in any of

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 06:52 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > This seems to be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 > > > > There should be a fix in the next update/rawhide kernels. > > > > kevin > > Not for me - I don't have any external usb drive. > My

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-17 Thread Neal Becker
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This seems to be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 > > There should be a fix in the next update/rawhide kernels. > > kevin Not for me - I don't have any external usb drive. My system locked again yesterday, this time while waking up from sleep. Trying

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
This seems to be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 There should be a fix in the next update/rawhide kernels. kevin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I don't know if this is related to the problem, but my system crashed over night again.  However, the last thing I saw while running tail -f /var/log/messages was the following: Jul 16 05:09:23 terrapin kernel: [ cut here ] Jul 16 05:09:23 terrapin kernel: kernel BUG at

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Neal Becker
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > When I woke up this morning at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my > system fan going at full speed. I tried to log in to the locked system, > but no response. I had to power cycle. Looking back in messages, the > last messages were right after 4am: > > # grep

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 06:26 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > >> Where do I set how many kernels to keep? If I have to fall back to > >> 17.3, I am going to have more than 3 available... > > > > As I

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Norman Gaywood wrote: > I've been getting these hangs on all 4.17 kernels that I've tried (up to > 4.17.6) > > kernel 4.16 works like a charm. > > Might be this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 > > Just tried to rerun my backup

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/16/2018 07:23 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote:   As I understand it, it's   installonly_limit=3   in /etc/yum.conf . Thanks.  In F28 that is:  /etc/dnf/dnf.conf Thanks, you're of course right,

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Tom Yates
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: As I understand it, it's installonly_limit=3 in /etc/yum.conf . Thanks.  In F28 that is:  /etc/dnf/dnf.conf Thanks, you're of course right, and I'm an idiot who *still* can't get the

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/16/2018 04:46 AM, Tom Yates wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where do I set how many kernels to keep? If I have to fall back to 17.3, I am going to have more than 3 available... As I understand it, it's installonly_limit=3 in /etc/yum.conf . Thanks.  In F28

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/16/2018 01:24 AM, Norman Gaywood wrote: I've been getting these hangs on all 4.17 kernels that I've tried (up to 4.17.6) kernel 4.16 works like a charm. Might be this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 hmmm.  I did have an SD card in my laptop's SD slot and it

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 15:24 +1000, Norman Gaywood wrote: > I've been getting these hangs on all 4.17 kernels that I've tried (up to > 4.17.6) > > kernel 4.16 works like a charm. > > Might be this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 In my case this is not associated

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Tom Yates
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where do I set how many kernels to keep?  If I have to fall back to 17.3, I am going to have more than 3 available... As I understand it, it's installonly_limit=3 in /etc/yum.conf . Tom Yates Cambridge,

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-16 Thread Frédéric
> Might be this bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 Looking forward to get 4.17.7 then! I just finished my backup with the drive plugged in directly to the computer instead of via the USB-C adapter -> no hang... My drive is ext4 luks encrypted. F

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Norman Gaywood
I've been getting these hangs on all 4.17 kernels that I've tried (up to 4.17.6) kernel 4.16 works like a charm. Might be this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1598462 -- Norman Gaywood, Computer Systems Officer School of Science and Technology University of New England

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Frédéric
> Same here with 4.17.5. > Hung during my backup yesterday night. Found the computer still > running this morning with noisy fan and computer not responding, > neither to Alt+SysRq keys. Note that I am running F27. I've just retried the backup this morning and it stopped again during the backup

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Frédéric
> When I woke up this morning at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my > system fan going at full speed. I tried to log in to the locked system, but > no response. Same here with 4.17.5. Hung during my backup yesterday night. Found the computer still running this morning with noisy fan and

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I never saw this problem with 4.17.4.  Since I upgraded to 4.17.5 I've seen it happen 3 times.  In all the cases as far as I can tell the system was idle.  I wasn't even in front of the computer when it happened.  I have 2 systems running 4.17.5 and the problem has occurred on only one of

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Tim Evans
On 07/15/2018 01:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 12:20 -0500, SternData wrote: On 07/15/2018 11:19 AM, Tim Evans wrote: On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I woke up this morning at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at full

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/15/2018 01:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 12:20 -0500, SternData wrote: On 07/15/2018 11:19 AM, Tim Evans wrote: On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I woke up this morning at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at full

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 12:20 -0500, SternData wrote: > On 07/15/2018 11:19 AM, Tim Evans wrote: > > On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > When I woke up this morning at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard > > > my system fan going at full speed. I tried to log in to the locked >

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/15/2018 01:37 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Tim Evans > wrote: On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Tim Evans wrote: > On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> When I woke up this morning at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my >> system fan going at full speed. I tried to log in to the locked system, >> but no response. I had to power cycle.

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread SternData
On 07/15/2018 11:19 AM, Tim Evans wrote: > On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard >> my system fan going at full speed.  I tried to log in to the locked >> system, but no response.  I had to power cycle.  Looking back

Re: System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Tim Evans
On 07/15/2018 08:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at full speed.  I tried to log in to the locked system, but no response.  I had to power cycle.  Looking back in messages, the last messages were right after

System hung over night

2018-07-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
When I woke up this morning  at 5:30 to head to the airport, I heard my system fan going at full speed.  I tried to log in to the locked system, but no response.  I had to power cycle.  Looking back in messages, the last messages were right after 4am: # grep "Jul 15 04" messages Jul 15