Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-02-01 Thread caped crusader
I appreciate everyone's input and help, and this may well just be an IE issue. I've found an obvious difference in the headers. In IE the connection header is set to 'close', in FF it's 'keep-alive'. As a test in FF I turned off the keep-alive setting in 'about:config' and this slowed down

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-02-01 Thread David Delbecq
It would be better to figure out why setting off Keep-Alive has such drastic performances problems. Might be an issue with some proxy / nat / router at the server side. En l'instant précis du 01/02/08 12:59, caped crusader s'exprimait en ces termes: I appreciate everyone's input and help, and

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread Christopher Cudennec
You should try a tool like ProxySniffer or a plugin for FF or IE to see why your page performance is that bad. We had some problems in our project concerning included css and js-files. You should be able to see who's responsible. Cheers, Christopher Martin Marinschek schrieb: Are you using

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread David Delbecq
Using ctrl-I on firefox , in the medias tab you will get an idea what is loaded by pages. If you see tons of javascript, css and picture, that might be the source of your problem. Note that we had a similar problem here once, JSF was slow to render (same time for IE / firefox), we discovered

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread caped crusader
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Our pages are very simple, very few images, very little javascript, and we're not using any extra javascript libraries. There is nothing obviously different in the server logs in terms of the files being fetched. I'm going to try the suggestions here and see

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread David Delbecq
Random guess: could it be your IE7 clients are configured to use a not so performant proxy ? Using complex forms with IE7 here, no special troubles En l'instant précis du 31/01/08 13:42, caped crusader s'exprimait en ces termes: Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Our pages are very simple,

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Robinson
Have you tried changing your IE cache settings to never check for updates instead of automatically or every time? Worth a try as a test to see if it has an effect. On Jan 31, 2008 5:42 AM, caped crusader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Our pages are very simple,

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread caped crusader
Hmm, except that when I'm testing here I'm seeing the same problems- I can access the same remote URL with both IE and FF and see these long lags in IE. Testing locally, the response time is identical and very fast for both browsers. On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 1:08 PM, David Delbecq [EMAIL

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread caped crusader
Good idea. Tried it but it had no effect. On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried changing your IE cache settings to never check for updates instead of automatically or every time? Worth a try as a test to see if it has an effect. On Jan

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread simon
Are you testing with the full hostname each time, or with localhost:port for your local tests? If the latter, then you are not testing david's suggestion at all. Even when using the hostname, you might not be testing david's suggestion. Only when testing from the same source network to the same

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-31 Thread David Delbecq
Sniff both transactions, compare, find correct solution and post it here, am really curious to know where this comes from? caped crusader a écrit : Good idea. Tried it but it had no effect. On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-30 Thread caped crusader
Hi I have a JSF application with some quite unusual performance problems. Loading pages in IE7 takes 4 times as long as in Firefox (v2.0.0.11). When I test the application locally, response times are good, and pretty similar for IE and FF. When I test our actual deployment, pages take on average

Re: JSF pages rendering 4 times more slowly in IE7 than Firefox

2008-01-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
Are you using any javascript libraries? Dojo? regards, Martin On 1/30/08, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: caped crusader [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi I have a JSF application with some quite unusual performance problems. Loading pages in IE7 takes 4 times as long as in