Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-27 Thread Barbara Tobias
It may not be the most elegant way to do it, but it works for me to go ahead and compose the list and its surrounding paragraphs with paragraph breaks at the end of each list item. After starting the next paragraph, go back and select the list items *only* and apply a style that has the amount of

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-27 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
The expected solution is a paragraph style specifically for the list items. In fact, I worked with one publisher that used three list styles. They were something like _list_first_row, _list_last_row, _list_inner_rows The reasoning is that you may desire extra space before or after the list,

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-27 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 21:13 -0500, Barbara Tobias wrote: It may not be the most elegant way to do it, but it works for me to go ahead and compose the list and its surrounding paragraphs with paragraph breaks at the end of each list item. After starting the next paragraph, go back and

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-26 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.26 00:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote: - I can make the frame, and put the list in it; so far, so good. - I can anchor the frame to a character - but which character to make it stay where is belongs, ... The anchor is _as_ character, not _to_ character. An object

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-26 Thread twoinfountain
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAIL LIST THANK YOU - Original Message - From: John Kaufmann kaufm...@nb.net To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list In a message dated 2009.09.26 00:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-26 Thread Brad Rogers
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[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-26 Thread Joe Smith
On 09/26/2009 03:20 AM, John Kaufmann wrote: Let me digress to ask what should be a basic question ... ... Is that the way it is supposed to be done? That looks about right. In this case, I think there's actually another step. When you Insert Frame, then apply a frame style that changes

[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread Bob Estes
John Kaufmann wrote: A few days ago I asked how, in the OO worldview, one should properly separate paragraphs (Newline between paragraphs - the answer was No). After thinking about the consequences, I followed with a thread (Line break and justification withing paragraph?} that tried to ask a

[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread william drescher
John Kaufmann wrote: A few days ago I asked how, in the OO worldview, one should properly separate paragraphs (Newline between paragraphs - the answer was No). After thinking about the consequences, I followed with a thread (Line break and justification withing paragraph?} that tried to ask a

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 07:27 -0500, william drescher wrote: ... A paragraph with an embedded list. The first few sentences of the paragraph describe the list, and then the elements are listed. One would like to treat this, spatially and conceptually, as a single paragraph. For such

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 04:22 -0500, Bob Estes wrote: ... A paragraph with an embedded list. The first few sentences of the paragraph describe the list, and then the elements are listed. One would like to treat this, spatially and conceptually, as a single paragraph. For such purposes

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread Gene Young
John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2009.09.25 04:22 -0500, Bob Estes wrote: ... A paragraph with an embedded list. The first few sentences of the paragraph describe the list, and then the elements are listed. One would like to treat this, spatially and conceptually, as a single paragraph.

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 08:15 -0500, Gene Young wrote: You format the relevant paragraphs [of the list] to have spacing no different from sentence spacing, ie; no additional spacing before or after. The list would be comprised of separate paragraphs for each list item as any list would

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread Gene Young
John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2009.09.25 08:15 -0500, Gene Young wrote: You format the relevant paragraphs [of the list] to have spacing no different from sentence spacing, ie; no additional spacing before or after. The list would be comprised of separate paragraphs for each list

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 10:02 -0500, Gene Young wrote: You set the spacing before the paragraph following the list to be equal to the sum of the spacing before and after on the normal paragraphs in the document. You can add as many list items as you wish at any time you wish and the

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread Gene Young
John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2009.09.25 10:02 -0500, Gene Young wrote: You set the spacing before the paragraph following the list to be equal to the sum of the spacing before and after on the normal paragraphs in the document. You can add as many list items as you wish at any time

[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread Joe Smith
On 09/25/2009 08:03 AM, John Kaufmann wrote: ... What is desired is that a paragraph with embedded list look overall like a paragraphs without embedded list. This means, for example, that between the list description and list elements there be no end-of-paragraph spacing, while the last list

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 15:25 -0500, Gene Young wrote: You set the spacing before the paragraph following the list to be equal to the sum of the spacing before and after on the normal paragraphs in the document. You can add as many list items as you wish at any time you wish and the

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 15:59 -0500, Joe Smith wrote: What is desired is that a paragraph with embedded list look overall like a paragraph without embedded list. This means, for example, that between the list description and list elements there be no end-of-paragraph spacing, while the

[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread NoOp
On 09/25/2009 12:16 PM, John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2009.09.25 13:41 -0500, Richard Detwiler wrote: I do what you describe a lot, but I don't feel any need to make the list items a single paragraph, and specifically to have the list items be the same paragraph as what is used

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 18:13 -0500, NoOp wrote: I've no experience with using lists (other than a few simple lines), but perhaps this might be worth a read: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Working_with_list_styles Great! - definitely

[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread NoOp
On 09/25/2009 04:40 PM, John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2009.09.25 18:13 -0500, NoOp wrote: I've no experience with using lists (other than a few simple lines), but perhaps this might be worth a read:

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 19:40 -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2009.09.25 18:13 -0500, NoOp wrote: I've no experience with using lists (other than a few simple lines), but perhaps this might be worth a read:

Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread John Kaufmann
In a message dated 2009.09.25 15:59 -0500, Joe Smith wrote: ... you could try a workaround of putting the list inside a frame: You can control the frame's spacing with a style, and it can be literally embedded inside a paragraph (anchored as character) to avoid the paragraph above/below

[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list

2009-09-25 Thread Joe Smith
On 09/25/2009 10:58 PM, John Kaufmann wrote: ... - I can make the frame, and put the list in it; so far, so good. - I can anchor the frame to a character - but which character to make it stay where is belongs, ... The anchor is _as_ character, not _to_ character. An object anchored as