Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
I don't know how big your numbers are but ... The spreadsheet in question sees rounding in two places. In one sheet, this number 317907988 was rounded to 317908000 in one row, but in a later row was not rounded. In another sheet, the number 330476211 was rounded to 330476000. All these fields

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
2009/7/14 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com I don't know how big your numbers are but ... The spreadsheet in question sees rounding in two places. In one sheet, this number 317907988 was rounded to 317908000 in one row, but in a later row was not rounded. In another sheet, the number

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
Have you still got the sheet with the number correct in one cell and rounded in another? If so you could have a look in the content.xml [sub-]file to see how they are being stored. To do this, open the .ods file with something like WinZip or gzip or 7-Zip and look at the content.xml file it

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
2009/7/14 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com Have you still got the sheet with the number correct in one cell and rounded in another? If so you could have a look in the content.xml [sub-]file to see how they are being stored. To do this, open the .ods file with something like WinZip or

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
There are options in the Paste Special menu that add/subtract/multiply/divide the copied value to/from/by/by the target cell before overwriting that cell. So, if you Copy 100 and Paste Special with Subtract turned on into a cell containing 1234567 you'll end up with 1234467. Paste Special

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
2009/7/14 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com There are options in the Paste Special menu that add/subtract/multiply/divide the copied value to/from/by/by the target cell before overwriting that cell. So, if you Copy 100 and Paste Special with Subtract turned on into a cell containing

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Per
1234567898765 1234567898765 12345678987654 12345678987654 123456789876543123456789876543 *1234567898765432 1234567898765430 * I´ve just tried Excel (version 2002, aka MS Office XP, on a WIN XP machine, SP3) I got just the same result, see the blue-marked numbers. I

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Dave Post
On Jul 14, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Per wrote: Is it a sort of handling the numbers in Works, Calc and Excel that causes the round-up effect??? I think these results are more correctly called truncation and result from the inherently limited numerical precision of digital computers. It's not

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
I think these results are more correctly called truncation and result from the inherently limited numerical precision of digital computers. It's not surprising that Excel and Calc exhibit the same problem if they use the same precision (i.e., single, double, whatever) for storing numbers in

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Per
My goal is not to recover the data, Harold, as I already have it. My goal is to figure out why the numbers are rounded. Dohan.. Is the numbers being rounded up at once when the users put them in the spreadsheet ??? Is there any strange formats in the row to the left of the numbercolumn???

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 14/07/09 17:45, Per wrote: 1234567898765 1234567898765 12345678987654 12345678987654 123456789876543123456789876543 *1234567898765432 1234567898765430 * I´ve just tried Excel (version 2002, aka MS Office XP, on a WIN XP machine, SP3) I got just the same result, see

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 14/07/09 18:32, Dave Post wrote: On Jul 14, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Per wrote: Is it a sort of handling the numbers in Works, Calc and Excel that causes the round-up effect??? I think these results are more correctly called truncation and result from the inherently limited numerical precision

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread JOE Conner
Harold Fuchs wrote: On 14/07/09 17:45, Per wrote: 1234567898765 1234567898765 12345678987654 12345678987654 123456789876543123456789876543 *1234567898765432 1234567898765430 * I´ve just tried Excel (version 2002, aka MS Office XP, on a WIN XP machine, SP3) I got just

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
Is the numbers being rounded up at once when the users put them in the spreadsheet ??? No, this is data that was entered somr time ago, and just now discovered to be rounded. Is there any strange formats in the row to the left of the numbercolumn??? If so, could this cause the round up..

[users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-13 Thread Dotan Cohen
I have found another case of Calc rounding numbers in spreadsheets, this time on my own machine. That means that in two different Calc spreadsheets, on two different operating systems, I have seen Calc round numbers in spreadsheets. Has anyone else seen this happen? -- Dotan Cohen

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-13 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:23:45 +0300 Came this utterance formulated by Dotan Cohen to my mailbox: I have found another case of Calc rounding numbers in spreadsheets, this time on my own machine. That means that in two different Calc spreadsheets, on two different operating systems, I have seen

Re: [users] Calc rounding numbers: another case

2009-07-13 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 13/07/09 17:23, Dotan Cohen wrote: I have found another case of Calc rounding numbers in spreadsheets, this time on my own machine. That means that in two different Calc spreadsheets, on two different operating systems, I have seen Calc round numbers in spreadsheets. Has anyone else seen this