RE: AWL auto_expire?

2004-10-08 Thread Nate Schindler
awesome! looks like it removes addresses seen only once. it also seems to be okay with SA 3.0. Thanks much! (Kris, too:) -Original Message- From: snowjack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:21 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL auto_expire?

Re: AWL auto_expire?

2004-10-08 Thread snowjack
Nate Schindler wrote: Just a curiosity question for now - is auto-expiring the AWL a planned feature? My auto-whitelist is about 3x the size of bayes_toks. I imagine it'll become problematic eventually, since it's only growing. ...or is there already some way to expire old entries from the AWL,

RE: Oh where, oh where does my bayes_journal go?

2004-10-08 Thread Ed Kasky
Good to know - I was not aware that it did the --sync after learning. Ed At 03:54 PM Friday, 10/8/2004, Nate Schindler wrote -=> a --sync operation is performed when you sa-learn things. This commits the journal to the database, and removes the file. it's recreated, written to, committed, and rem

Problems reporting spam to razor2 from procmail

2004-10-08 Thread Matias Pelenur
Hi, I followed the instructions in the ReportingSpam and RazorSiteWide Wiki pages to try to enable spam reporting on my server. I'm using RedHat 9, Postfix, SpamAssassin 3.0 and Razor 2.61. I have SpamAssassin set-up to run from /etc/procmail and it works fine, including the razor2 checks and so

AWL auto_expire?

2004-10-08 Thread Nate Schindler
Title: AWL auto_expire? Just a curiosity question for now - is auto-expiring the AWL a planned feature? My auto-whitelist is about 3x the size of bayes_toks.  I imagine it'll become problematic eventually, since it's only growing. ...or is there already some way to expire old entries from t

RE: Oh where, oh where does my bayes_journal go?

2004-10-08 Thread Nate Schindler
a --sync operation is performed when you sa-learn things. This commits the journal to the database, and removes the file. it's recreated, written to, committed, and removed automatically when needed. sa-learn just forces this to happen whenever it's run. it's by design. -Original Message-

statistics help needed

2004-10-08 Thread Justin Mason
Hey all -- I've been considering possible improvements to how we figure out what rules are effective. Currently we use the S/O ratio and hit-rate of each individual rule, in other words, if a rule hits a lot of spam, and little nonspam, we detect that and consider it "good". However, that doesn'

Oh where, oh where does my bayes_journal go?

2004-10-08 Thread Ed Kasky
I am currently running SA 3.0.0 with a site wide bayes and spamd running as user spamd. Database is in /home/spamd When I pipe false negatives through sa-learn, the bayes_journal file disappears. Is this by design or is there something I need to change or fix? Thanks... Ed . . . . . . . . "It'

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks guys, problem was i commented out the old stuff: #:0fw #| /usr/bin/spamassasin #:0 when i needed to leave the second :0 uncommentedd'oh! thanks again > From: Morris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 13:19:01 -0700 (PDT) > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread Jim Maul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, appeared to work great, logging to maillog and all, the problem now becomes where it's putting spam. previously my procmailrc looked like this: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamassassin :0 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes $HOME/spam which routed spam to the users spam folder when i chan

Re: Memory footprint of spamd 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Morris Jones
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Michael Parker wrote: > Of all the folks seeing memory issues, are you using ok_languages in > your config somewhere? If not, please speak up as well. Yes: ok_languagesen Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Monrovia, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.whiteoaks.com

Re: Memory footprint of spamd 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Jim Gifford
Michael Parker wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 12:25:45PM -0500, Michael Parker wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 10:22:42AM -0700, Morris Jones wrote: I watched a spamd child grow to 250MB yesterday on a single message. I have a suspicion that the memory usage growth is happening on a whiteli

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread Morris Jones
You have two separate things happening in two recipes: The first recipe: > :0fw > | /usr/bin/spamassassin Adds the X-SpamStatus: header to the email. The second recipe: > :0 > * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes > $HOME/spam Delivers email with the specified header to $HOME/spam. The problem I was address

Re: Memory footprint of spamd 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Michael Parker
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 12:25:45PM -0500, Michael Parker wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 10:22:42AM -0700, Morris Jones wrote: > > > > I watched a spamd child grow to 250MB yesterday on a single message. I > > have a suspicion that the memory usage growth is happening on a whitelist > > or bayes

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you, appeared to work great, logging to maillog and all, the problem now becomes where it's putting spam. previously my procmailrc looked like this: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamassassin :0 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes $HOME/spam which routed spam to the users spam folder when i change it to: :0fw * < 25

RE: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank you Matt! > > You're info is great, but I'm sure you dont mind if I take your > disclaimer seriously. > > Before I go on, anyone that uses spamd confirm this info...? His suggestions sound right on to me. For the most part all you nee

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread Morris Jones
His information is all correct. Change your procmailrc lines so they're something like this: # Pass through spamassassin :0fw * < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc Mojo On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you Matt! > > You're info is great, but I'm sure you dont mind if I take your dis

Re: score changes in local.cf not recognized.

2004-10-08 Thread snowjack
Sahil Tandon wrote: > snowjack wrote: Is there any evidence that local.cf is getting read at all? Good question. Where do I look for such evidence? Logs are hardly revealing. If you first log in, or su to be the user amavis is running as, then run "spamassassin -D --lint" you should see somethi

Re: still can't delete spam...

2004-10-08 Thread Chris Marrin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It seems that the marked spam is never getting to this point, to have these rules applied to it. It is being marked and then being sent to the user, marked as spam, so that part is working. If the headers are there, SA is doing its job. Ask th

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you Matt! You're info is great, but I'm sure you dont mind if I take your disclaimer seriously. Before I go on, anyone that uses spamd confirm this info...? > From: Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 13:48:40 -0400 > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > S

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:16 PM 10/8/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, ive been asked this before. I inherited this setup, so Im trying to work that out. i can restart SA by using rc.d/init.d/spamassassin it shows in ps aux as /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -a and when mail comes in it shows as /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/s

Re: Bayes/AWL SQL Roll Call

2004-10-08 Thread Ryan Moore
Michael Parker wrote: Hi All, I'm compling some stats on Bayes and AWL in SQL for my upcoming talk at ApacheCon[1]. If you're making use of either Bayes and/or AWL with SQL based storage could you please respond (off list is fine) to this email. I will only be using raw numbers, no names. In parti

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yea, ive been asked this before. I inherited this setup, so Im trying to work that out. i can restart SA by using rc.d/init.d/spamassassin it shows in ps aux as /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -a and when mail comes in it shows as /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/spamassassin is that helpful? > From: Ma

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:55 PM 10/8/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im sure SA should be logging something to somewhere, probably maillog right? Well I dont have anything in the maillog from SA. Am I missing something? Anyone help me debug why it's not logging? How are you calling SA? If you're using spamc/spamd then

SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey all: running SA 2.6 on Linux with Sendmail. Im sure SA should be logging something to somewhere, probably maillog right? Well I dont have anything in the maillog from SA. Am I missing something? Anyone help me debug why it's not logging?

Bayes/AWL SQL Roll Call

2004-10-08 Thread Michael Parker
Hi All, I'm compling some stats on Bayes and AWL in SQL for my upcoming talk at ApacheCon[1]. If you're making use of either Bayes and/or AWL with SQL based storage could you please respond (off list is fine) to this email. I will only be using raw numbers, no names. In particular, I'm interested

Re: still can't delete spam...

2004-10-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:33:08 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > It seems that the marked spam is never getting to this point, to have these > rules applied to it. It is being marked and then being sent to the user, > marked as spam, so that part is working. Is there another file somewhere

Re: Still "fishy" problems with bayes expiry in SA 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Schaetzl writes: > The problem seems to exists on all of our Bayes databases and I think the > cause is not "bad" data, but simply the way the SA expiry algorithm works. > There are no negative atimes or atimes in the future. If the database >

Re: still can't delete spam...

2004-10-08 Thread sahil
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > It seems that the marked spam is never getting to this point, to have these > rules applied to it. It is being marked and then being sent to the user, > marked as spam, so that part is working. If the headers are there, SA is doing its job. Ask the procmail mailing

Re: still can't delete spam...

2004-10-08 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:33:08 -0500: > I cannot configure spamassassin to delete spam. > sa doesn't do this! Do you mean to send mail to /dev/null with procmail? > procmailrc > why not ask the procmail list? http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/procmail Kai -- Kai Schätzl,

Still "fishy" problems with bayes expiry in SA 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Kai Schaetzl
The problem seems to exists on all of our Bayes databases and I think the cause is not "bad" data, but simply the way the SA expiry algorithm works. There are no negative atimes or atimes in the future. If the database contains tokens from a wide time range it's not able to calculate a reasonab

still can't delete spam...

2004-10-08 Thread KyleReynolds
More of the same... (spamassassin 2.64 on freeBSD 5.2.1) I appreciate the help I have recieved so far, but it still doesn't work... and yes, I have read the wiki, and I have googled the hell out of it... I cannot configure spamassassin to delete spam. I have tried many, many combinations of the

Re: dccifd question

2004-10-08 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:01 AM 10/8/2004, Sean Doherty wrote: Spamassassins DCC configuration option "use_dcc" specifies whether to use DCC or not. However, it appears that Spamassassin will perform a dcc check if dccifd is available (if the socket specified under dcc_dccifd_pathor exists) or use_dcc is set to 1. The

RE: New blacklist with URI

2004-10-08 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions
Matt Kettler wrote: > Theoretically, it should also match if the hostname changes, as long > as the domain+TLD part is the same (ie: foo.blah.com) > > That said I've heard some mumblings the SA 3.0 implementation > of domain stripping is a bit different than the > Mail::SpamCopURI version, and the

Re: New blacklist with URI

2004-10-08 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:43 AM 10/8/2004, Matt wrote: I have a question on the new(ish) scanning that spamassassin does on URI's.It seems to be working very well for us here, but I have a question.. WIll it catch: http://www.blah.com/?jj38942 as well as http://www.blah.com/?34223 The URI blacklists only check the

Re: Memory footprint of spamd 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Morris Jones
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Jeff Tucker wrote: > I captured an exact copy of one of the messages that was being scanned > when this happened. > [ ... ] > Rescanning the same message by calling spamc didn't cause the > problem. The scan completed in just a couple of seconds. I did exactly the same expe

Re: Scores in Spamassassin 3.0: some stats

2004-10-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:30:59 +0200 Cedric Foll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First I've had a look on my spam scores and i saw a strange behavior, > BAYES_99 get a lower score (1.9) than BAYES_95 (2.0). > I've had a look on http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_0_x.html and > this score seem

Re: score changes in local.cf not recognized.

2004-10-08 Thread sahil
Quoting Keith Hackworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have the same configuration and I had the same problem with 2.64. I did > a spamassassin --lint and it showed me all sorts of problems in my > local.cf. It was so bad, it just ignored anything beyond x lines in the > file. Very plausible - I'll t

Re: score changes in local.cf not recognized.

2004-10-08 Thread sahil
Quoting Volker Kindermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > if you are running postfix,amavisd-new and spamassassin chrooted be sure to > not only change /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf but also > /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf I'm not running within a chroot; the cf is in /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin.

Re: New blacklist with URI

2004-10-08 Thread Keith Hackworth
It only looks at the domain. For example, it will catch: www.blah.com/ anything.blah.com anything.anything.more.subdomains.blah.com/anything Keith > Hi, > I have a question on the new(ish) scanning that spamassassin does on > URI's.It seems to be working very well for us here, but I have a

New blacklist with URI

2004-10-08 Thread Matt
Hi, I have a question on the new(ish) scanning that spamassassin does on URI's.It seems to be working very well for us here, but I have a question.. WIll it catch: http://www.blah.com/?jj38942 as well as http://www.blah.com/?34223 We are beginning to notice alot of e-mails (being marked ri

Upgrade from 3.0 rc2 to current

2004-10-08 Thread Theodore Heise
Hi all, I have SA 3.0 rc2 running on my Slackware 9.0 box, and want to upgrade to the official 3.0 release. I looked through the UPGRADE file and didn't see any information on whether I need to do anything with my Bayes databases during the process. Thanks for any guidance. -- Theodore (Ted)

dccifd question

2004-10-08 Thread Sean Doherty
Hi, Spamassassins DCC configuration option "use_dcc" specifies whether to use DCC or not. However, it appears that Spamassassin will perform a dcc check if dccifd is available (if the socket specified under dcc_dccifd_pathor exists) or use_dcc is set to 1. The same logic is in both 2.64 and 3

Re: score changes in local.cf not recognized.

2004-10-08 Thread Keith Hackworth
I have the same configuration and I had the same problem with 2.64. I did a spamassassin --lint and it showed me all sorts of problems in my local.cf. It was so bad, it just ignored anything beyond x lines in the file. I'm not sure why, but my install of sa was VERY picky about spacing in the fi

RE: dnsbl test not working

2004-10-08 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions
ADMIN_miki wrote: > > this machine is located inside DMZ > any ideas why are these problems ? > Thank you > Miki The obvious question I would ask is are you allowing connections outgoing ? ie. Is your firewall open on the required ports? Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Host

dnsbl test not working

2004-10-08 Thread ADMIN_miki
Hi, I try "make test" in SA 3.0 and in part of dnsbl test I got these errors> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.0]# make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/basic_lintok

Scores in Spamassassin 3.0: some stats

2004-10-08 Thread Cedric Foll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, First I've had a look on my spam scores and i saw a strange behavior, BAYES_99 get a lower score (1.9) than BAYES_95 (2.0). I've had a look on http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_0_x.html and this score seem normal when use of network tests. But

Non-Engish date-header from SA causes probs with email-clients

2004-10-08 Thread Brödner
Dear all! I am using SA (2.63, SuSe Linux 9.0) in a German language environment to get the score description etc. out in German (I have LANG=de_DE LANGUAGE=de_DE export LANG LANGUAGE in my /etc/sysconfig/spamd) Because of this, SA also seems to writes a German Date-Header into the taged mails i

RE: Spellcheck plugin?

2004-10-08 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions
Eugene Morozov wrote: > Loren Wilton wrote: >>> I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that penalizes >>> messages with many spelling mistakes? This might help against all >>> those creative ways of spelling out what the spammer wants to sell. >> >> >> I don't know that anyone has wor

Re: Spellcheck plugin?

2004-10-08 Thread Eugene Morozov
Loren Wilton wrote: I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that penalizes messages with many spelling mistakes? This might help against all those creative ways of spelling out what the spammer wants to sell. I don't know that anyone has worked on specifically what you are thinking of,

Re: score changes in local.cf not recognized.

2004-10-08 Thread Volker Kindermann
> > Is there any evidence that local.cf is getting read at all? > > Good question. Where do I look for such evidence? Logs are hardly > revealing. if you are running postfix,amavisd-new and spamassassin chrooted be sure to not only change /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf but also /etc/mail/sp

Re: [SA3.0] spamc sometimes hangs

2004-10-08 Thread Maurice Lucas
For the archives, On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 09:32, Maurice Lucas wrote: I use spamd and spamc with SA3.0 in a sitewide configuration. A few percentage of all my connections keeps the spamc call in memory. After a 500 connections I have 23 times "/usr/local/bin/spamc -c -u spamd" in my ps list. Does s

Re: Memory footprint of spamd 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Tucker writes: > Michael Parker wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 10:22:42AM -0700, Morris Jones wrote: > > > >>I watched a spamd child grow to 250MB yesterday on a single message. I > >>have a suspicion that the memory usage growth is happeni

Re: Memory footprint of spamd 3.0

2004-10-08 Thread Jeff Tucker
Michael Parker wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 10:22:42AM -0700, Morris Jones wrote: I watched a spamd child grow to 250MB yesterday on a single message. I have a suspicion that the memory usage growth is happening on a whitelist or bayes database maintenance event of some sort. For folks that are

Re: score changes in local.cf not recognized.

2004-10-08 Thread Sahil Tandon
snowjack wrote: Is there any evidence that local.cf is getting read at all? Good question. Where do I look for such evidence? Logs are hardly revealing. -- Sahil Tandon

Re: Book has gone to press

2004-10-08 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, October 7, 2004, 7:37:32 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: > http://www.packtpub.com/book/spamassassin Congrats Chris and the other editors and authors of this new book. And thanks to all SA folks too! :-) Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/