Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 5/11/2011 10:58 PM, Niamh Holding wrote: Hello Ted, Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 10:21:23 PM, you wrote: TM Yes, your Honor. (eyeroll) Any intention to produce it in support of your claim? Your welcome to my exclusion list if you want it, I'm not going to post it here but anyone who

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 05/11/2011 04:35 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote: if someone sends an email to 175 people, once they hit 'x' number in the first email attempt, we send '4xx too many emails' ie: ehlo *.yahoo.com mail from: some...@yahoo.com rcpt to: one 250 ok rcpt to: two 250 ok [skip to

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Ted, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 7:36:01 AM, you wrote: TM Your welcome to my exclusion list if you want it, I'm not TM going to post it here but anyone who wants a copy can just ask. TM Do you want a copy? Of your exclusion list no, but I am asking you to post the evidence backing up your

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 5/12/2011 12:08 AM, Niamh Holding wrote: Hello Ted, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 7:36:01 AM, you wrote: TM Your welcome to my exclusion list if you want it, I'm not TM going to post it here but anyone who wants a copy can just ask. TM Do you want a copy? Of your exclusion list no, but I am

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Ted, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:54:56 AM, you wrote: TM I investigated and did not see retries from TM Yahoo's mailservers in the mail log file Funnily enough I do see retries- 2009-10-03 02:01:32.887 tcpserver: ok 24589 mail.redbus.holtain.net:217.146.107.39:25

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Matus, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 12:11:10 PM, you wrote: MUf Actyally, Michael Scheidell reported that yahoo miebehaves when receiving MUf 4xx response after RCPT TO: Very different from the original blanket claim that Yahoo's SMTP mailers are unable to handle a standard SMTP error 4xx, if

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello dar...@chaosreigns.com, Am 2011-05-11 16:01:38, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: http://www.chaosreigns.com/dnswl/dnswlabusehistory.svg Percentage of total spam from legitimate email providers in April as reported as abuse to dnswl.org: 35.5% yahoo.com Configuration option in

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Matus UHLAR - fantomas, Am 2011-05-12 09:06:10, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: On 11.05.11 19:30, Joe Sniderman wrote: We do something similar, except that the maximum number of recipients per envelope we set at 1. The second and all subsequent get a 4yz error during RCPT. We

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 12 May 2011 16:00:38 +0200 Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote: Which RFC? Limiting the recipients per envelope is legitim. Limiting it to 1 is pushing it. RFC 5321 says: The minimum total number of recipients that MUST be buffered is 100 recipients.

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 5/12/2011 4:49 AM, Niamh Holding wrote: Hello Matus, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 12:11:10 PM, you wrote: MUf Actyally, Michael Scheidell reported that yahoo miebehaves when receiving MUf 4xx response after RCPT TO: Very different from the original blanket claim that Yahoo's SMTP mailers are

Re: Yahoo sent 5.5x as much spam as any other legit provider in April

2011-05-12 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Ted, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 5:06:15 PM, you wrote: TM I mentioned that this was with greylist-milter, you are merely TM shifting your claim now to essentially blaming greylist-milter for TM not issuing a standard SMTP error 4xx. No you didn't, and no I am not casting any aspersions on

Can I classify just a few messages from the same yahoo newsgroup?

2011-05-12 Thread leonardevens
I am using spamassassin on a email server running Scientific Linux. I download my email to my local machine which is running Fedora 14 Linux, using evolution. The spam detections is done on the server, on which I keep one file to collect messages I want to be recognized as spam and another to

Re: Can I classify just a few messages from the same yahoo newsgroup?

2011-05-12 Thread darxus
On 05/12, leonardevens wrote: But recently I got email posted from a yahoo group which I subscribe to which contained spam. If I classify those messages as spam, will all the messages from that gorup also be classified as spam? How should I prceed to limit such spam without disrupting

Re: Can I classify just a few messages from the same yahoo newsgroup?

2011-05-12 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 12 May 2011, leonardevens wrote: But recently I got email posted from a yahoo group which I subscribe to which contained spam. If I classify those messages as spam, will all the messages from that gorup also be classified as spam? How should I prceed to limit such spam without

Re: Can I classify just a few messages from the same yahoo newsgroup?

2011-05-12 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 12 May 2011, leonardevens wrote: But recently I got email posted from a yahoo group which I subscribe to which contained spam. If I classify those messages as spam, will all the messages from that gorup also be classified as spam? How should I prceed to limit such spam without

Re: Can I classify just a few messages from the same yahoo newsgroup?

2011-05-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:51:05 -0700 (PDT), leonardevens l...@math.northwestern.edu wrote: But recently I got email posted from a yahoo group which I subscribe to which contained spam. If I classify those messages as spam, will all the messages from that gorup also be classified as spam? How

Re: X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=18.4 - Still delivered.

2011-05-12 Thread snowweb
Thanks for your responses. Sorry, forgot temporarily, that SA only classifies spam and other mechanism's control what is done to it after that. Therefore the issue lies elsewhere as you rightly say. It seems that if the sender is Exim always delivers it to the inbox, regardless of the how it