Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-10 Thread Philip Prindeville
Philip Prindeville wrote: Then I've not deduced what addresses are used for users and which block is allocated to servers... Fair enough. This conversation started when I pointed out you were blocking comcast's *entire* network. I did so because you failed to accept mail properly relayed t

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-07 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Philip Prindeville wrote: Interestingly enough, Japan also has laws against spam that most legitimate ISPs attemp to conform to. You probably weren't aware of that. You'd never know it from their effectiveness! This isn't really any differen

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-07 Thread jdow
From: "Philip Prindeville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alan Premselaar wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Prindeville wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy of prosecut

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-07 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: >>> >> >> Interestingly enough, Japan also has laws against spam that most >> legitimate ISPs attemp to conform to. You probably weren't aware of >> that. >> >> > > You'd never know it from their effectiveness! This isn't really any different than the US with u-ca

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-07 Thread Philip Prindeville
Alan Premselaar wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Prindeville wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy of prosecuting spam senders... Erm, so you're go

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-07 Thread Alan Premselaar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Prindeville wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Philip Prindeville wrote: >> >> >>> I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy >>> of prosecuting spam senders... >>> >> Erm, so you're going to block all of the U

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy of prosecuting spam senders... Erm, so you're going to block all of the US, correct? No.

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread MATSUDA Yoh-ichi
Hello, From: Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost) Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:59:34 -0500 (snip...) > Consider this porn spam: > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from bgp01061386bgs.taylor01.mi.comcast.net &g

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Philip Prindeville wrote: >> >> >>> I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy >>> of prosecuting spam senders... >>> >> Erm, so you're going to block all of the US, correct? >> >> > > No. We have laws against

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
sers@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost) Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy of prosecuting spam senders... Erm, so you're going

RE: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Gary W. Smith
nal Message- > From: Philip Prindeville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:16 PM > To: Matt Kettler > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost) > > Matt Kettler wrote: > > >Philip Prindeville

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy of prosecuting spam senders... Erm, so you're going to block all of the US, correct? No. We have laws against spam that hopefully most legitimate ISP's attempt to

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Philip Prindeville wrote: As for properly configured SA... Well, maybe I'm lacking technical competence and going for the low-hanging fruit, then. Refusing help from Matt Kettler sure rules out getting a lot of that low-hanging fruit. Daryl

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: > > I.e. any provider or country that doesn't have an institutional policy > of prosecuting spam senders... Erm, so you're going to block all of the US, correct? > BTW: A finer point is that I block Comcast USER IP addresses. If > Comcast has mail servers that have a sep

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
Richard Ozer wrote: Philip, Methinks that's a very silly policy. You're aren't hurting Comcast an iota; but you sure are penalizing yourself, your users, and their email contacts. A properly configured SA box will block spam from Comcast subscribers as well as from anyone else so I don't se

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: I'm not protesting anything. So blocking Comcast is not a public gesture of disapproval? http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=protest noun definition 2: "An individual or collective gesture or display of disapproval."

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Matt Kettler wrote: >> So my experience is that blocking based on rDNS is a waste of time, >> and a lot of people on the mimedefang mailing list agree with that. > > I hate to say it, but blocking based on return-path is an even greater waste > of > time. Return-paths are readily forged. > > Wh

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Richard Ozer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost) Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: Philip will ge

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: > > I'm not protesting anything. So blocking Comcast is not a public gesture of disapproval? http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=protest noun definition 2: "An individual or collective gesture or display of disapproval." > > I'm refusing to accept ema

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: Philip will get no further help from me until he modifies his ACLs. Final-Recipient: rfc822; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Action: failed Status: 5.1.0 MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 550 REPLY: 550_5

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Philip Prindeville wrote: >> >> >> >> Philip will get no further help from me until he modifies his ACLs. >> >> Final-Recipient: rfc822; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Action: failed >> Status: 5.1.0 MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 550 REPLY: >> 550_5.0.

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-05 Thread Philip Prindeville
Matt Kettler wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: Philip will get no further help from me until he modifies his ACLs. Final-Recipient: rfc822; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Action: failed Status: 5.1.0 MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 550 REPLY: 550_5.0.0_This_provider_is_blacklisted Sorry, I don't help p

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-04 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: Philip will get no further help from me until he modifies his ACLs. Final-Recipient: rfc822; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Action: failed Status: 5.1.0 MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 550 REPLY: 550_5.0.0_This_provider_is_blacklisted Sorry, I don't help people who block off ent

Re: Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-04 Thread Matt Kettler
Philip Prindeville wrote: > Hi. > > I just joined the list, and I do a little peripheral work with > Mimedefang and Thunderbird, sendmail, etc. > > In working with MdF, the following issue came up. We're running > SpamAssassin 3.0.4, Mimedefang 2.55, Perl 5.8.5, and Sendmail > 8.13.1... all on Red

Couple of newbie questions... (repost)

2006-02-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
Hi. I just joined the list, and I do a little peripheral work with Mimedefang and Thunderbird, sendmail, etc. In working with MdF, the following issue came up. We're running SpamAssassin 3.0.4, Mimedefang 2.55, Perl 5.8.5, and Sendmail 8.13.1... all on Redhat FC3 (on an Athalon 64). (1) Is th