On 2021-09-22 at 05:19:48 UTC-0400 (Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:19:48 +0200)
Bert Van de Poel
is rumored to have said:
I for one have no idea how I would submit a fix to SA once I've
written it, to give a concrete example. I'm guessing I just paste the
patch to a Bugzilla comment and hope someone merg
On 9/22/2021 8:11 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
So I'd recommend a different take. Autolearn is an abomination we
never should have published. It is, in effect, a switch to allow a
inherent bias in the modelling to grow and continue.
On 22.09.21 10:39, Jared Hall wrote:
Agreed, predictable Ga
On 9/22/2021 8:11 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
Morning all,
So I'd recommend a different take. Autolearn is an abomination we
never should have published. It is, in effect, a switch to allow a
inherent bias in the modelling to grow and continue.
Agreed, predictable Garbage Out (FP) become
On 21.09.21 13:11, Matt Corallo wrote:
I recently noticed my bayes was rarely matching any spam, and it turns
out this was due to autolearn=ham'ing occurring on lots of list
traffic that I only occasionally read, some of which was blatant spam.
Sadly, list traffic can be pretty hard to categori
On 2021-09-22 14:11, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
Morning all,
So I'd recommend a different take. Autolearn is an abomination we
never should have published. It is, in effect, a switch to allow a
inherent bias in the modelling to grow and continue.
Disable autolearn, wipe your Bayes store, and man
Morning all,
So I'd recommend a different take. Autolearn is an abomination we never
should have published. It is, in effect, a switch to allow a inherent bias
in the modelling to grow and continue.
Disable autolearn, wipe your Bayes store, and manually train from hand
classified ham and spam.
On Tue, 2021-09-21 at 18:57 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote:
>
> Well, from the few I've seen, they all seem to have a relatively
> constant structure. Someone pointed you to a plugin that is at least
> dealing in this having a better suggestion.
>
> While I wrote a little Perl a decade ago I've forgot
This is complete news to me! Based on the activity on the dev list, I
had assumed there were still 10-20 people devoting some of their time to
developing SA. If you are the only one, that of course changes my view
very much, and would be something worth communicating in some spot. When
I asked
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:45:43AM +0200, Bert Van de Poel wrote:
>
> I hope I'm not passing on too much of a negative message. It would be great
> of someone had a look at the Bayes autolearn code. I think it would be a
> great service to the community!
The fact is that there really aren't any ac
I think having a look at the code itself is a good idea. I'm not sure if
it's up-to-date but you can find some information on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPAMASSASSIN/DevelopmentStuff
I've found that just reporting issues on SA's bugzilla is completely
useless since it's just u
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 06:57:22PM -0700, Loren Wilton wrote:
>
> I guess one thing you might be able to do is implement a tflags flag of
> absolutely_no_autolearn or some such that would force-disable the autolearn
> decision if the rule had hit, but that might be something that would have to
> be
(2) where would I go to look at building a plugin for this? Ideally
something that ends up upstream, but though I can write code, I know no
perl :).
Well, from the few I've seen, they all seem to have a relatively constant
structure. Someone pointed you to a plugin that is at least dealing in
On 9/21/21 18:01, Loren Wilton wrote:
None of these seem to accomplish disabling learning for a specific rule
I think the problem is that I believe Bayes works off of the total score, and probably only sees
rule names as more tokens, if it sees them at all. If it indeed works off the total
None of these seem to accomplish disabling learning for a specific rule
I think the problem is that I believe Bayes works off of the total score,
and probably only sees rule names as more tokens, if it sees them at all. If
it indeed works off the total score, about all you can do is somehow tw
On 9/21/21 15:53, Benny Pedersen wrote:
On 2021-09-21 22:11, Matt Corallo wrote:
"tflags MAILING_LIST_MULTI noautolearn" doesn't seem like quite what I
want, it just reduces the score used to decide whether to learn.
There's some old bugzilla mentions asking for this feature, but it
seems the r
On 2021-09-21 22:11, Matt Corallo wrote:
"tflags MAILING_LIST_MULTI noautolearn" doesn't seem like quite what I
want, it just reduces the score used to decide whether to learn.
There's some old bugzilla mentions asking for this feature, but it
seems the response was "write a plugin". Is there a
Hi!
I recently noticed my bayes was rarely matching any spam, and it turns out this was due to
autolearn=ham'ing occurring on lots of list traffic that I only occasionally read, some of which was
blatant spam. Sadly, list traffic can be pretty hard to categorize and ends up getting through due
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