Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-19 Thread Nels Lindquist
On 2011/01/18 9:49 AM, J4 wrote: > This is pretty much what I would like to achieve, & the reason I > decided not to use Dovecot Sieve (apart from me being incapable of > setting it. ;) ). > > Parse the SPAM during the SMPT session and use only RAM: Perfect. > > I would still li

SOLVED Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread J4
On 01/18/2011 08:33 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * J4 : >> On 01/18/2011 06:51 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >>> * J4 : This is pretty much what I would like to achieve, & the reason I decided not to use Dovecot Sieve (apart from me being incapable of setting it. ;) ).

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* J4 : > > On 01/18/2011 06:51 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > > * J4 : > >> This is pretty much what I would like to achieve, & the reason I > >> decided not to use Dovecot Sieve (apart from me being incapable of > >> setting it. ;) ). > >> > >> Parse the SPAM during the SMPT ses

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread J4
On 01/18/2011 06:51 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * J4 : >> This is pretty much what I would like to achieve, & the reason I >> decided not to use Dovecot Sieve (apart from me being incapable of >> setting it. ;) ). >> >> Parse the SPAM during the SMPT session and use only RAM:

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* J4 : > This is pretty much what I would like to achieve, & the reason I > decided not to use Dovecot Sieve (apart from me being incapable of > setting it. ;) ). > > Parse the SPAM during the SMPT session and use only RAM: Perfect. > > I would still like to notify the connecting

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread jk4
Disabled. Done :-O "Martin Gregorie" wrote: >On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 16:43 +, Martin Hepworth wrote: >> I tend to find AWL is a pain in a user population of more than 10 and >> disable it by default now. >> >> >I found it was a pain with a user population of one and disable it >automatically

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 16:43 +, Martin Hepworth wrote: > I tend to find AWL is a pain in a user population of more than 10 and > disable it by default now. > > I found it was a pain with a user population of one and disable it automatically. Martin

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread J4
On 01/18/2011 05:39 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * J4 : I know this is off-topic but is there a way for a third party programme to silently drop spam from delivery? >>> There are several: MimeDefang, Spamassassin-Milter and amavisd-new come to >>> mind. >>> >>> MimeDefang and Spamass

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Martin Hepworth
I tend to find AWL is a pain in a user population of more than 10 and disable it by default now. -- Martin Hepworth Oxford, UK On 18 January 2011 16:35, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 1/18/2011 11:12 AM, J4 wrote: > > > > > > Right - I've moved the SA scanning to the front of postfix, and it >

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* J4 : > >> I know this is off-topic but is there a way for a third party programme > >> to silently drop spam from delivery? > > There are several: MimeDefang, Spamassassin-Milter and amavisd-new come to > > mind. > > > > MimeDefang and Spamassassin-Milter work as MILTERS (see: smtpd_milters or >

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/18/2011 11:12 AM, J4 wrote: > > > Right - I've moved the SA scanning to the front of postfix, and it > scans accordingly and adds headers. > > What is odd, is that :- > It seems that the AWL white-lists the email addresses that were > black-listed. Additionally, the shortcircuit shoul

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread J4
On 01/18/2011 04:20 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 09:00 -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> On 1/18/2011 4:13 AM, J4 wrote: >>> I have Dovecot LDA so Sieve might well be a good idea, but I would >>> like to inform the sender that the Email was dropped as spam, and >>> avoid backscatt

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Rejaine Monteiro
Em 18-01-2011 13:26, Giles Coochey escreveu: > > I enabled Greylisting for a while. Unfortunately - I found that the > MTAs my MTA communicated with responded in unreliable ways. Some MTAs > would not try any of my MX records (all using the same Greylisting db) > for at least a day, while others w

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Giles Coochey
On 18/01/2011 16:20, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 09:00 -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: If you're thinking of detecting spam at SMTP time you should consider greylisting. When my ISP implemented it the spam I get dropped immediately from 80% of my mail to 8%, where its remained ever si

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread J4
On 01/18/2011 04:20 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 09:00 -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> On 1/18/2011 4:13 AM, J4 wrote: >>> I have Dovecot LDA so Sieve might well be a good idea, but I would >>> like to inform the sender that the Email was dropped as spam, and >>> avoid backscatt

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 09:00 -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 1/18/2011 4:13 AM, J4 wrote: > > > > I have Dovecot LDA so Sieve might well be a good idea, but I would > > like to inform the sender that the Email was dropped as spam, and > > avoid backscatter. I don't think I can do this with Sieve/D

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread J4
On 01/18/2011 03:59 PM, m...@junc.org wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:13:22 +0100, J4 wrote: > >> I have Dovecot LDA so Sieve might well be a good idea, but I would >> like to inform the sender that the Email was dropped as spam, and >> avoid backscatter. I don't think I can do this with Sieve/Dov

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/18/2011 4:13 AM, J4 wrote: > > I have Dovecot LDA so Sieve might well be a good idea, but I would > like to inform the sender that the Email was dropped as spam, and > avoid backscatter. I don't think I can do this with Sieve/Dovecot LDA. You cannot do this from the delivery agent without

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread me
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:13:22 +0100, J4 wrote: I have Dovecot LDA so Sieve might well be a good idea, but I would like to inform the sender that the Email was dropped as spam, and avoid backscatter. I don't think I can do this with Sieve/Dovecot LDA. dont use sieve reject since if you are usi

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-18 Thread J4
On 01/17/2011 10:22 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * JKL : >> On 01/17/2011 09:29 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote: >>> On 1/17/11 3:27 PM, JKL wrote: Hi there, Why would this be delivered into the user mailbox when the Sender address is blacklisted by the user? Did I misunde

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-17 Thread me
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:12:42 +0100, JKL wrote: I know this is off-topic but is there a way for a third party programme to silently drop spam from delivery? enable sieve on docecot-lda and see this http://sieve.info/

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-17 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* JKL : > > On 01/17/2011 09:29 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > On 1/17/11 3:27 PM, JKL wrote: > >> Hi there, > >> > >> Why would this be delivered into the user mailbox when the Sender > >> address is blacklisted by the user? Did I misunderstand the > >> short-circuit effect? > >> > >> Bes

Re: Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-17 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/17/2011 4:12 PM, JKL wrote: > On 01/17/2011 09:29 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote: >> On 1/17/11 3:27 PM, JKL wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Why would this be delivered into the user mailbox when the Sender >>> address is blacklisted by the user? Did I misunderstand the >>> short-circuit effec

Fwd: Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule

2011-01-17 Thread JKL
On 01/17/2011 09:29 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote: > On 1/17/11 3:27 PM, JKL wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> Why would this be delivered into the user mailbox when the Sender >> address is blacklisted by the user? Did I misunderstand the >> short-circuit effect? >> >> Best wishes. >> >> > spamassass