On 29 Oct 2013 09:45:02 -0700
"Neil Schwartzman" wrote:
> the difficulty with a rate-limiting approach is the criminals
> reverse-engineer it pretty quickly, and just spread the joy over
> numerous accounts.
True, though that's quite hard. Given a user population of 10K users,
it's pretty easy
On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:31 AM, David F. Skoll wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:42:29 -0400 (EDT)
> "John R. Levine" wrote:
>
>> But outbound filtering is far more useful when it, you know, actually
>> works.
>
> Outbound filtering is far trickier than inbound filtering. Unless you
> really want
On 10/29/2013 05:26 PM, Joe Sniderman wrote:
On 10/29/2013 12:19 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06:
Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
doesn't seem to work. We're a s
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:42:29 -0400 (EDT)
"John R. Levine" wrote:
> But outbound filtering is far more useful when it, you know, actually
> works.
Outbound filtering is far trickier than inbound filtering. Unless you
really want to annoy your customers, you have to hold suspect mail
(anything sc
On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06:
>> Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
>> automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
>> doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk E
On 10/29/2013 12:19 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06:
>> Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
>> automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
>> doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email
>> F
Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06:
Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email
Filter) and if we fail to block a spam it can appear we are
you have to sign up for that service, and depending upon how your network is
set up, you may not be able to receive such reports.
I suggest people take a look at all the FBLs at
http://blog.wordtothewise.com/tag/fbls/
as well
Neil Schwartzman
Executive Director
Coalition Against unsolicited Co
On 28.10.13 14:06, Marc Perkel wrote:
Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email
Filter) and if we fail to block a spam it can appear we are
On 10/29/2013 05:21 AM, Marc Perkel wrote:
>
>
> What's odd is that all my inbound servers are listed.
This sounds like a typical backscatter problem to me...
Kind regards,
Tom
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On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 21:21 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
> What's odd is that all my inbound servers are listed.
Your INbound servers? Did you not wonder why your INbound servers are
listed for SPEWING spam?
Assuming (well, your wording strongly suggests) your inbound and
outbound servers' IPs are
On 10/28/2013 8:23 PM, Joe Sniderman wrote:
On 10/28/2013 05:06 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
automated.
They have real people there.
They have several of our IP addresses listed
Hmmm
and delisting doesn't seem to work.
Strange
On 10/28/2013 05:06 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
> Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
> automated.
They have real people there.
> They have several of our IP addresses listed
Hmmm
> and delisting doesn't seem to work.
Strange
> We're a spam filtering company (Junk E
More to the point, if you're a spam filtering company, you shouldn't
be delivering something you "failed to block" to anybody but your own
customers.
Outbound filtering is a reasonable thing to do, to catch spambots and the
like.
But outbound filtering is far more useful when it, you know, ac
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM, John Levine wrote:
>>They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
>>doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email Filter)
>>and if we fail to block a spam it can appear we are the source.
>
> Uh, Marc, if the spam comes out of your
or wait 24 hours for the listing to expire.
that said deput...@spamcop.net works just fine.
Neil Schwartzman
Executive Director
Coalition Against unsolicited Commercial Email
Tel :(303) 800-6345
Mob: (415) 361-0069
@cauce
On Oct 28, 2013, at 3:08 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> Just wondering
>Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
>automated.
I've never had any trouble getting replies to polite inquiries.
>They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
>doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email Filter)
>and if we fail to b
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Marc Perkel
wrote:
> Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally automated.
> They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting doesn't seem to
> work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email Filter) and if we fail to
> block a spam i
Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally
automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting
doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email Filter)
and if we fail to block a spam it can appear we are the source.
Anyone know anyone there
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