Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tir 15 dec 2009 00:32:31 CET, mouss wrote Can all the guys who think 20 isn't much send me 10$ each? I promise to write a song for you. what if the snail postman did not get paid ?, how many snailmails would not be sent ?, its wonder me that email is completely free of charge in the fi

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-14 Thread mouss
jdow a écrit : > [snip] > > Per a discussion off the list the $20 is, as mentioned, pretty much a > captcha and as the web site declares, an inoculation against "domain > tasting" or 10 for a dollar .cn domains. The thousands of names > registration isn't going to get through either ReturnPath or

Re: [sa] Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-14 Thread Charles Gregory
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Per Jessen wrote: Why would anyone pay USD20 to register with emailreg.org instead of publishing an SPF record for free? To keep the pointy-haired managers happy. Meow! :) - C

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:45 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Per Jessen wrote: Why would anyone pay USD20 to register with emailreg.org instead of publishing an SPF record for free? To keep the pointy-haired managers happy. Bingo. Name calling aside, this is really the crux of

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-14 Thread Per Jessen
John Hardin wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Per Jessen wrote: > >> Why would anyone pay USD20 to register with emailreg.org instead of >> publishing an SPF record for free? > > To keep the pointy-haired managers happy. > I had the distinct feeling it was something like that. /Per Jessen, Züri

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-14 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Per Jessen wrote: Why would anyone pay USD20 to register with emailreg.org instead of publishing an SPF record for free? To keep the pointy-haired managers happy. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #1

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-14 Thread Per Jessen
Marc Perkel wrote: > Been using emailreg.org for several months now and it seems like a > really good white list. Anyone else using it? I'm not using it, but why would people list themselves there instead of just publishing an SPF record? The approach is roughly the same: >From emailreg.org: "

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-13 Thread jdow
From: "Sahil Tandon" Sent: Saturday, 2009/December/12 15:23 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: From: "Marc Perkel" Sent: Saturday, 2009/December/12 09:42 > >Sahil Tandon wrote: >On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: > > Been using emailreg.org for several months now and it seems like a >rea

RE: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-13 Thread R-Elists
snip > > But, as I said, I highly trust my well-placed contact who > vouches for emailreg.org, so I'm satisfied. > snip > -- > Rob McEwen Rob, :-) um you did say it a coupla times. once was enough though right? :-) we know who *you* are, yet if you are going to reference this "trusted

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-13 Thread Marc Perkel
Rob McEwen wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I see no reason that everything has to be free. Ultimately we all have to eat and we do something to make a living. There are people in the world who are both ethical and financially successful. So if someone is doing something right and maki

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-13 Thread Rob McEwen
Marc Perkel wrote: > I see no reason that everything has to be free. Ultimately we all have > to eat and we do something to make a living. > > There are people in the world who are both ethical and financially > successful. So if someone is doing something right and making a buck > at it I don't ha

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-13 Thread Eric Wood
On 12/12/2009 4:52 PM, Bob O'Brien wrote: I am "the whitelist guy" at Barracuda, so I work with them. In my opinion, the $20 fee should be considered more like a CAPTCHA. It's not simple "pay to play" either. Reports get investigated, and delistings can happen. As I'm sure many of the volunteer

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Michael Lyon
I would have to agree. The measures to ensure the integrity of the users are thorough, and the price is minimal. Having gone through the process of becoming a whitelisted sender (.edu), it made me feel confident endorsing and using their white/blacklist. And this is from someone who has been on

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Rob McEwen wrote: Bob O'Brien wrote: But I have to say (and this is just my personal opinion) that all the people shouting "conspiracy!" (even if joking about it) may have done irreparable harm to the potential for corporations (not just Barracuda) supporting this community in th

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Rob McEwen
Bob O'Brien wrote: > But I have to say (and this is just my personal opinion) that all the > people shouting "conspiracy!" (even if joking about it) may have done > irreparable harm to the potential for corporations (not just Barracuda) > supporting this community in the future. Bob, Someone I ha

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Dave Pooser
On 12/12/09 3:52 PM, "Bob O'Brien" wrote: > I am "the whitelist guy" at Barracuda, so I work with them. > In my opinion, the $20 fee should be considered more like a CAPTCHA. > It's not simple "pay to play" either. Reports get investigated, and > delistings can happen. As I'm sure many of the v

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Bob O'Brien wrote: I am "the whitelist guy" at Barracuda, so I work with them. In my opinion, the $20 fee should be considered more like a CAPTCHA. It's not simple "pay to play" either. Reports get investigated, and delistings can happen. As I'm sure many of the volunteers here are all too

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: > From: "Marc Perkel" > Sent: Saturday, 2009/December/12 09:42 > > > >Sahil Tandon wrote: > >On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: > > > > Been using emailreg.org for several months now and it seems like a > >really good white list. Anyone else using it? > > > >

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Bob O'Brien
Michael Scheidell wrote: But... you draw your own conclusions. the best thing about a conspiracy theory is that there is little proof. if this is little proof, then this would make a good conspiracy theory. YMMV. I have more evidence for you: Barracuda Networks uses the emailreg.or

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread jdow
From: "Marc Perkel" Sent: Saturday, 2009/December/12 09:42 Sahil Tandon wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: Been using emailreg.org for several months now and it seems like a really good white list. Anyone else using it? Not here. They charge a $20.00 administrative fee per regis

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: [HTML snipped] I'm thrilled that it works well for you; my note was for posterity and other readers who might benefit from knowing about the odd inconsistency I mentioned in my initial reply. -- Sahil Tandon

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 12/12/09 11:30 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: Been using emailreg.org for several months now and it seems like a really good white list. Anyone else using it? Not here. They charge a $20.00 administrative fee per registered domain, purportedly to

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Sahil Tandon wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: Been using emailreg.org for several months now and it seems like a really good white list. Anyone else using it? Not here. They charge a $20.00 administrative fee per registered domain, purportedly to preven

Re: emailreg.org - pretty good white list

2009-12-12 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: > Been using emailreg.org for several months now and it seems like a > really good white list. Anyone else using it? Not here. They charge a $20.00 administrative fee per registered domain, purportedly to prevent "domain tasters". This is odd, given their