Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Martin Hepworth
Maybe you went over their acceptable use limit? 2009/3/31 Rejaine Monteiro : > Hi > > The zen.spamhaus.org  list.dsbl.org stops working here. > > Somebody noticed some problem? > > -- Martin Hepworth Oxford, UK

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Noel Jones
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Rejaine Monteiro wrote: > Hi > > The zen.spamhaus.org  list.dsbl.org stops working here. > > Somebody noticed some problem? > > list.dsbl.org has been dead for about a year. You shouldn't be using it. Please see http://www.dsbl.org spamhaus will disable access

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Rejaine Monteiro
Hi, thanks all for tips.. I wanted to say zen.spamhaus.org, only.  I don't use list.dsbl.org  a long time ago.. (wrong copy/paste) I'll  see use limit  thing.. Thanks ... On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Rejaine Monteiro wrote: Hi The zen.spamhaus.org  list.dsbl.org stops w

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Is there an easy way to tell how many times I'm querying their servers from Spamassassin? I doubt I'm any where near those numbers but it would be nice to know. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Martin Hepworth wrote

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Michael Scheidell
Curtis LaMasters wrote: Is there an easy way to tell how many times I'm querying their servers from Spamassassin? I doubt I'm any where near those numbers but it would be nice to know. look for 'dnstop'. run it for a while -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 > *| *SECN

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Rik
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:33 +0100, Martin Hepworth wrote: > Maybe you went over their acceptable use limit? > > 2009/3/31 Rejaine Monteiro : > > Hi > > > > The zen.spamhaus.org list.dsbl.org stops working here. > > > > Somebody noticed some problem? > > > > > > > That is possible - $pamhaus a

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, March 31, 2009 20:17, Rik wrote: > It's known as $pamhaus... Those court cases and trips around the > world don't come for free and I have very little respect for them. #!/bin/sh USE="-war" emerge bind change resolv.conf to nameserver 127.0.0.1 do you hate me ? :))) -- http://loca

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread John Rudd
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:17, Rik wrote: > [drivel about Spamhaus snipped] > > Use the Barracuda list - it's pretty aggressive [...] USE: > b.barracudacentral.org. > What rate of false positives does it get? What is the basis of being listed? Does it have sub-lists to cover different listin

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread LuKreme
On 31-Mar-2009, at 12:17, Rik wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:33 +0100, Martin Hepworth wrote: Maybe you went over their acceptable use limit? 2009/3/31 Rejaine Monteiro : Hi The zen.spamhaus.org list.dsbl.org stops working here. Somebody noticed some problem? That is possible - $pamhaus

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Martin Hepworth
2009/3/31 Rik : > > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:33 +0100, Martin Hepworth wrote: >> Maybe you went over their acceptable use limit? >> >> 2009/3/31 Rejaine Monteiro : >> > Hi >> > >> > The zen.spamhaus.org  list.dsbl.org stops working here. >> > >> > Somebody noticed some problem? >> > >> > >> >> >> >

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Rejaine Monteiro
Owww.. I'm out of discussion about spamhaus vs barracuda, because IMHO, spamhaus do a great free service.. And here,  my problem had nothing to do with spamhaus or volume limitations,  but  just a internal problem in mailserver *Michael Scheidell, thank you for dnstop tip.. (tis very cool)

RE: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Mark
-Original Message- From: Martin Hepworth [mailto:max...@gmail.com] Sent: dinsdag 31 maart 2009 20:56 To: hlug090...@buzzhost.co.uk Cc: Rejaine Monteiro; Spamassassin list Subject: Re: zen.spamhaus.org > Err no. > > spamhaus is great for low use. For high use they expect y

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Mark wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Martin Hepworth [mailto:max...@gmail.com] > Sent: dinsdag 31 maart 2009 20:56 > To: hlug090...@buzzhost.co.uk > Cc: Rejaine Monteiro; Spamassassin list > Subject: Re: zen.spamhaus.org > >>

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-03-31 Thread Michael Scheidell
> > When someone tells me 'their' list is much more aggressive than spamhaus, > my first reaction is not: "Oh, coolie, more to block!" More like: "Another > one of those overly aggressive blocklists that in its rampant 'Off with > their heads' policy just renders itself pretty much useless." So, i

RE: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-04-07 Thread Mark
> -Original Message- > From: Martin Hepworth [mailto:max...@gmail.com] > Sent: dinsdag 31 maart 2009 20:56 > To: hlug090...@buzzhost.co.uk > Cc: Rejaine Monteiro; Spamassassin list > Subject: Re: zen.spamhaus.org > > > When someone tells me 'their&#x

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-04-07 Thread Rob McEwen
Mark wrote: > I've been reading up a bit on Barracuda et al, like: > > http://www.email-ethics.com/2009/01/emailregorg-project.html > http://zacharyozer.blogspot.com/2008/10/worst-engineers-ever.html > http://www.debian-administration.org/users/simonw/weblog/295 > > And now I'm even more convinced

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-04-07 Thread LuKreme
On 7-Apr-2009, at 13:30, Steve Bertrand wrote: ...apparently, not enough trouble: Yep, they were found out via DNS. It is Their whois data that is obfuscated Domain Name:EMAILREG.ORG Created On:12-Apr-2008 21:40:49 UTC Last Updated On:02-Apr-2009 18:45:33 UTC Expiration Date:12-Apr-2010 21

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-04-07 Thread Rob McEwen
LuKreme wrote: > How about the 3rd post that exposes barracuda as a money-grubbing > racketeering operation? > "Barracuda own and operate emailreg.org, although there is no mention > of this on the emailreg.org site, and the whois data is obscured. > Indeed the owners of emailreg.org have gone to a

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2009-04-07 Thread LuKreme
On 7-Apr-2009, at 08:39, Rob McEwen wrote: Mark wrote: I've been reading up a bit on Barracuda et al, like: http://www.email-ethics.com/2009/01/emailregorg-project.html http://zacharyozer.blogspot.com/2008/10/worst-engineers-ever.html http://www.debian-administration.org/users/simonw/weblog/295

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Search through the archives, there was a patch to add it to SA. Luix 2007/6/1, Martin Jürgens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, I am running Debian Etch, Exim4 and Spamassassin 3.1.7. Now I am trying to find out how to make Spamassassin use Spamhaus Zen. I am stuck. Could anyone please tell me what

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Martin Jürgens
Thanks, I will search for it. Am Freitag, den 01.06.2007, 10:50 -0300 schrieb Luis Hernán Otegui: > Or, if you could, upgrade to SA 3.2, which includes it. > > > Luix > > 2007/6/1, Martin Jürgens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > I am running Debian Etch, Exim4 and Spamassassin 3.1.7. > > > > No

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Jerry Durand
On Jun 1, 2007, at 6:48 AM, Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Search through the archives, there was a patch to add it to SA. Also note, do NOT use Zen to evaluate headers or anything in the body. Zen is ONLY for approving the server that contacted your server. See the notes on the Spamhaus.org

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Ken A
Jerry Durand wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 6:48 AM, Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Search through the archives, there was a patch to add it to SA. Also note, do NOT use Zen to evaluate headers or anything in the body. Unless of course you need to. ;-) http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustedRel

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Ken A
Jerry Durand wrote: At 08:47 AM 6/1/2007, Ken A wrote: Jerry Durand wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 6:48 AM, Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Search through the archives, there was a patch to add it to SA. Also note, do NOT use Zen to evaluate headers or anything in the body. Unless of course you need

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Jerry Durand
At 08:47 AM 6/1/2007, Ken A wrote: Jerry Durand wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 6:48 AM, Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Search through the archives, there was a patch to add it to SA. Also note, do NOT use Zen to evaluate headers or anything in the body. Unless of course you need to. ;-) http://wiki.a

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Rob McEwen
> Now, if you want to use SBL-XBL, that's fine (I do). "Normal" users on > dynamic addresses don't show up on those lists. I disagree. True for SBL, but not for XBL. Consider that there are MANY situations where a small-to-large office will all share an IP to the outside world. Maybe we are ta

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Jerry Durand
On Jun 1, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Ken A wrote: see http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ Quote from that page: "Do not use ZEN in filters that do any ‘deep parsing’ of Received headers, or for other than checking IP addresses that hand off to your mailservers."

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Jerry Durand
On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Rob McEwen wrote: Now, if you want to use SBL-XBL, that's fine (I do). "Normal" users on dynamic addresses don't show up on those lists. I disagree. True for SBL, but not for XBL. Consider that there are MANY situations where a small-to-large office will all sh

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Richard Frovarp
Jerry Durand wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Ken A wrote: see http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ Quote from that page: "Do not use ZEN in filters that do any ‘deep parsing’ of Received headers, or for other than checking IP addresses that hand off to your mailservers." That's assuming you

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Jerry Durand
On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Richard Frovarp wrote: That's assuming you aren't using it intelligently. SA checks all received headers via Zen to see if they are in the SBL. PBL and XBL are only checked against last external header, via Zen. Ah, nobody mentioned that SA was only using a

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Rob McEwen
Jerry, I think I'm in totally agreement with you, except when you said: >>"SBL-XBL is fine for that." SBL is fine for checking all the headers... but, per my original message, I think that, like PBL, XBL will trigger too many FPs when checked against all IPs in the headers, not just the sendi

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Jerry Durand
At 12:05 PM 6/1/2007, Rob McEwen wrote: Did you mean to say, "SBL is fine for that." ?? I was going by old info, my server's had a separate rule to use SBL-XBL for years, but since SA now uses pieces of Zen, I killed that rule. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.c

Re: zen.spamhaus.org

2007-06-01 Thread Ken A
Jerry Durand wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Richard Frovarp wrote: That's assuming you aren't using it intelligently. SA checks all received headers via Zen to see if they are in the SBL. PBL and XBL are only checked against last external header, via Zen. Ah, nobody mentioned that S