Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 14:56 schrieb Nick Edwards: if i need to take the phone and ask the admin if a mail was discarded or just not delivered at the moment the mailservice is shit get into the real world, and there you go again someone does different than reindl does so they must be shit. jesus ch

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 25.03.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Nick Edwards: >> It only applies to German based providers, located in Germany, serving >> Germany. >> A similar rule applies in Sweden too, and there are exceptions. >> >> I can reject who or what I want > > well, start with unde

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 25.03.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Nick Edwards: >> On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> that game is over at the moment you got a complaint from the sender >>> proving you MX has responded with "250 OK" and the message was never >>> delivered - that is *not* how

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Nick Edwards: It only applies to German based providers, located in Germany, serving Germany. A similar rule applies in Sweden too, and there are exceptions. I can reject who or what I want well, start with understand the difference between reject and discard

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Nick Edwards: On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald wrote: that game is over at the moment you got a complaint from the sender proving you MX has responded with "250 OK" and the message was never delivered - that is *not* how SMTP is designed to work read up on your RFC's,

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 25.03.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Niamh Holding: >> Hello Reindl, >> >> Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: >> >> RH> i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed >> RH> because it's legally classified identical to a postman says

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Nick Edwards
On 3/25/15, Niamh Holding wrote: > > Hello Reindl, > > Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: > > RH> i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed > RH> because it's legally classified identical to a postman says "meh i don't > > RH> walk to go upstairs today and th

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 11:17 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: RH> i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH> because it's legally classified identical to a postman says "meh i don't RH> walk to go upstairs today and thr

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl, Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 9:51:48 AM, you wrote: RH> i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed RH> because it's legally classified identical to a postman says "meh i don't RH> walk to go upstairs today and throw the letter away" RH> if you pretend to pro

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2015 um 10:45 schrieb Niamh Holding: Hello Reindl, Tuesday, March 24, 2015, 11:40:39 PM, you wrote: RH> you are not allowed to silent discard mail Could you please quote the relevant section of UK law which pertains? i don't know the UK laws but in germany it's for sure not allowed

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-25 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl, Tuesday, March 24, 2015, 11:40:39 PM, you wrote: RH> you are not allowed to silent discard mail Could you please quote the relevant section of UK law which pertains? -- Best regards, Niamhmailto:ni...@fullbore.co.uk pgpetJrbzBVhg.pgp Description: PG

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.03.2015 um 23:13 schrieb Alex Regan: Spamassassin already verifies authenticity, although not pre-queue whatever setup *not* pre-queue is wrong as long the server is not a personal machine because you are not allowed to silent discard mail as well you *must not* send bounces as respons

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-24 Thread Mark Martinec
well, a better setup would run spamassassin via milter *before-queue* and proper reject junk at SMTP level - so you have a tag level let say between 5.5 and 7.9 points and reject above 8.0 the flagged ones can go in a seperate folder via sieve and the absolute high score junk is proper rejected

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-24 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, I contacted the list a couple of weeks ago about SA not missing a lot of spam I thought it should be catching. There duplicates of message that I had put through sa-learn, that were still getting passed. One of the suggestions offered here, after posting my command line here, was that I shou

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-24 Thread Lorenzo Thurman
> On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > Am 24.03.2015 um 20:10 schrieb Lorenzo Thurman: >> I contacted the list a couple of weeks ago about SA not missing a lot of >> spam I thought it should be catching. There duplicates of message that I >> had put through sa-learn, that

Re: Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.03.2015 um 20:10 schrieb Lorenzo Thurman: I contacted the list a couple of weeks ago about SA not missing a lot of spam I thought it should be catching. There duplicates of message that I had put through sa-learn, that were still getting passed. One of the suggestions offered here, after

Spamassassin not catching spam (Follow-up)

2015-03-24 Thread Lorenzo Thurman
I contacted the list a couple of weeks ago about SA not missing a lot of spam I thought it should be catching. There duplicates of message that I had put through sa-learn, that were still getting passed. One of the suggestions offered here, after posting my command line here, was that I should r

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