Re: Merits of Tapestry-IOC

2013-05-15 Thread Dmitry Gusev
I'm not getting what are you trying to say. Is it "lets replace tapestry-ioc with some other ioc"? Or "lets implement proper CDI support"? > If you are implying that this is all so important, why isn't every project on the planet using Tapestry-IOC? > I would be very happy using the Web Framework

@Inject vs @javax.inject.Inject

2013-05-15 Thread Paul Stanton
Just noticed that @javax.inject.Inject does not work with org.slf4j.Logger in a service implementation. tapestry's @Inject does. I'm not sure if this is an oversight or a limitation. p. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr

Re: Merits of Tapestry-IOC

2013-05-15 Thread hantsy
> As I said in another thread, you're suggesting replacing Tapestry-IoC > with CDI. If that was done, people would still learn one IoC framework > in order to learn Tapestry. CDI has a broader reach (in termos of > concepts and features) than T-IoC. Not much people use CDI now (I may > be wrong, o

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread hantsy
Good job... I am very glad to see CDI is supported in Tapestry, but I viewed the pom.xml, it depended on openejb(not standard CDI api), and tomee(for test). I wish Apache DeltaSpike(which is the successor of MyFaces CODI and JBoss Seam3 and others) can be considered as dependency, it is also fr

RE: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
For this stack trace... it is likely build mania...repo corruption..and unstable source so I am backing down to try and find something I can work with. - cheers Thanks

RE: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
There is no talking. If I create a jira I am met with contempt. And they got some dig about me in the past being a committer...hastily checking in code potentially running away with parts of the effort so they cannibalized me. But please dont think i am being bitter. I could care less. I am just

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:19:11 -0300, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: One (maybe stupid) question: does it allow Tapestry services to be provided as CDI beans, so they can have transaction handling or other CDI-provided stuff, and still be injectable through Tapestry-IoC? That would be t

Customize autocomplete mixin match list?

2013-05-15 Thread George Ludwig
I want customize the look of each item in the list created by the Autocomplete mixin. Currently, I just return an id for each object. But I'd rather return HTML-formatted output. For example, right now I just return a simple String to populate the match list: return getName(); But I want to add

Re: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 18:49:56 -0300, Ken in Nashua wrote: Thanks Thiago... my head is kinda spinnin... I been building and running and limping... you have seen some of the bugs I get. Have you talked to the Tynamo guys about it? I'm not sure the problem is in Tapestry or in Tynamo in th

Re: Merits of Tapestry-IOC

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 18:57:55 -0300, Lenny Primak wrote: I agree that distributed configuration is great. But, it's not equivalent to tapestry-ioc. Agreed. There are lots of ready-made solutions for distributed configurations already. You can also easily build one on top of ready-made CDI

RE: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
Do this look like normal build feedback? c:\Prototype\Mavenized\Product\tynamo\trunk\codehaus-unity-skin>call mvn clean install -Dmaven.test.skip=true -DdownloadJavadocs=true -DdownloadSources=true 2>&1 | te e ..\build-codehaus-unity-skin.log [INFO] Scanning for projects... Downloading: htt

RE: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
Ok I am going to try and keep the code base and build against rev's that my framework providers are currently released and buolding against. thats why I asked this question... because my wife said... 'why dont you fix it yourself'... and seeing I ate and breathed HibernateDescriptorDecorator.JAV

RE: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
Its 5.3.7 I am backing down my code base to released versions and see what that buys me. previous bugs. Maybe this one will come back when I get new checkins? right now I am in a holding pattern. ciao

Re: Merits of Tapestry-IOC

2013-05-15 Thread Lenny Primak
I agree that distributed configuration is great. But, it's not equivalent to tapestry-ioc. There are lots of ready-made solutions for distributed configurations already. You can also easily build one on top of ready-made CDI implementation, if you really want to (I don't think there is a need)

RE: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
Thanks Thiago... my head is kinda spinnin... I been building and running and limping... you have seen some of the bugs I get. I can't get a position on the code base framework I am building off of. The head rev is unstable. There are outstanding bugs and issues... internal ones preventing funda

Re: how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:20:50 -0300, Ken in Nashua wrote: Folks, Hi! I attempted to upgrade to the framework I been using latest and greatest... 5.3.7 or 5.4? -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Merits of Tapestry-IOC

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:30:17 -0300, Lenny Primak wrote: using the CDI spec. I am not even sure that what you are calling Distributed Configuration is even needed for the Web Framework. Just take a look at Tapestry (the web framework) itself. Look at how a new coercion, request handler,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:19:13 -0300, Kalle Korhonen wrote: If Tapestry IOC would fully implement the CDI spec, how would it be any different than any other CDI implementation? +1 to that. I'd love to see that happening (and, of course, to contribute for that). The Tapestry-IoC implementati

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:06:13 -0300, Lenny Primak wrote: Now saying that, I am not saying Tapestry, or Tapestry-IOC sucks, I just feel Tapestry-IOC is unnecessary in the current technology landscape and presents a barrier to learning Tapestry. Tapestry-IoC is very necessary for Tapestry.

RE: how to use HibernateEntityValueEncoder

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
Thanks Joakim... for trying I tried to get a clean head rev build off my framework providers but its never had a clean head rev build ever (months and years) and I have been very quiet about it limping along waiting for pristine code. They seem to be under the impression that everything just wo

Merits of Tapestry-IOC

2013-05-15 Thread Lenny Primak
Starting new topic... nothing relating to tapestry-CDI announcement... I am sure you grasp the technology just fine. But this is a bit changing the topic. I am talking about IOC specifically. You are mentioning distributed configuration. There are plenty of ways to implement what needs to be don

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Kalle Korhonen
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Lenny Primak wrote: > I grasp them fully. > I stand by my opinion. > Now saying that, I am not saying Tapestry, or Tapestry-IOC sucks, I just > feel > Tapestry-IOC is unnecessary in the current technology landscape and > presents a barrier to > learning Tapestry. >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Lenny Primak
Please, don't take my statements personally. I've been using these technologies for 2+ years. I grasp them fully. I stand by my opinion. Now saying that, I am not saying Tapestry, or Tapestry-IOC sucks, I just feel Tapestry-IOC is unnecessary in the current technology landscape and presents a b

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread François Facon
*** There is no such thing as** **a** **stupid question*. ;) Currently the CDI extension at https://github.com/got5/tapestry-cdi/blob/master/src/main/java/org/got5/tapestry5/cdi/extension/TapestryExtension.javaforce the CDI manager to ignore Tapestry service. 2013/5/15 Thiago H de Paula Figueired

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Kalle Korhonen
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Lenny Primak wrote: > I think all of the CDI modules are basically a consumer layer so Tapestry > pages/components/etc. can use CDI beans. > Usually, the use case is that the rest of the company is using CDI, and > the presentation layer (Tapestry) needs to use >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Lenny Primak
Well, I don't want to maintain redundant code, it I don't have to. I would gladly switch to another module, and that will give me less code to maintain. Other comments interspersed below... On May 15, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Nourredine Khadri wrote: > No need to delete your contribution Lenny : ) >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Lenny Primak
I think all of the CDI modules are basically a consumer layer so Tapestry pages/components/etc. can use CDI beans. Usually, the use case is that the rest of the company is using CDI, and the presentation layer (Tapestry) needs to use some of that functionality. This may be off topic, but in al

how to troubleshoot this bug

2013-05-15 Thread Ken in Nashua
Folks, I attempted to upgrade to the framework I been using latest and greatest... to try and overcome some bugs that I havent resolved. Thinking it is a stale code drift runtime error... So I replenished a fresh local repo upgraded to latest and greatest framework and when I run my webapp I g

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 15 May 2013 10:35:36 -0300, Nourredine Nourredine wrote: Hi, Hi! Atos is proud to announce the first release of Tapestry-cdi, part of the got5[1] project. Yay! Thanks! One (maybe stupid) question: does it allow Tapestry services to be provided as CDI beans, so they can have t

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Nourredine Khadri
No need to delete your contribution Lenny : ) This module was first implemented to fulfill our need and to replace our internal IOC framework. Now we want to share it. We have been focused on a Tomee environment, though the implementation is not container specific. We also need to handle CDI quali

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Lenny Primak
So, now we have 4 CDI modules. How do they compare? Should I bother keeping mine ( in FlowLogix )? I can gladly delete it if the got5 one is better. We are using FlowLogix one in production, the only difference between it and Magnus' module, is it works even if CDI is turned off (no beans.xml) D

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Bård Magnus Kvalheim
Congratulations guys - and thanks for putting this together. This is good news. One of my wishes was to have a solid cdi production quality module, but never really made past pet-project as we're still on with spring. (Still hoping for spring to implement the spec, but that might never gonna happen

[ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Nourredine Nourredine
Hi, Atos is proud to announce the first release of Tapestry-cdi, part of the got5[1] project. This library is based on work of Romain Manni Bucau[2] and inspired from other contributions (Magnus Kvalheim[3] and FlowLogix projects[4]). We have updated the dependencies of this library to use Tapest

[ANNOUNCE] Tapestry-cdi contribution

2013-05-15 Thread Nourredine Khadri
Hi, Atos is proud to announce the first release of Tapestry-cdi, part of the got5[1] project. This library is based on work of Romain Manni Bucau[2] and inspired from other contributions (Magnus Kvalheim[3] and FlowLogix projects[4]). We have updated the dependencies of this library to use Tape

Re: how to use HibernateEntityValueEncoder

2013-05-15 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:39:46 -0300, Ken in Nashua wrote: tapestry cannot articulate the labelProperty I specified "toString" Of course Tapestry cannot find the toString property. As Joakim said, toString() is not a property. It's a method, but not a property. Properties are defined by g