Kalle Korhonen: "By now, you probably have a fairly good idea how you could
improve things and I'd hate to have the first book on Tapestry5 to already
become outdated right away if you start on T5.2 only after releasing the
book."
Kalle Korhonen: "Yes, there are a few active committers but the com
.
best wishes!
Peter
- Original Message -
From: "Borut Bolčina"
To: "Tapestry users"
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November, 2009 12:58:34 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest,
Istanbul
Subject: Re: [Tapestry Central] Next Steps for Tapestry
And of course we can mak
And of course we can make more of this:
http://www.questionpro.com/akira/ShowResults?id=1151880&mode=data
The above was initiated long time ago:
http://bbwebcraft.blogspot.com/2009/02/wishlist-and-survey-for-tapestry-5.html
-borut
2009/11/10 Borut Bolčina
> Hi,
>
> 2009/11/10 Inge Solvoll
>
>
Hi,
2009/11/10 Inge Solvoll
> Maybe it would be a good idea to find out what most newcomers ask for, and
> just put it in there, even if it doesn't make that much sense? It COULD
> attract more people.
>
>
That is exactly why I opened http://tapestry5.ideascale.com/
-borut
There are features that could help gain attention to the framework. A lot of
people ask for the same things on this list:
- How to submit with a select
- How to make dependent selects that works with AJAX.
- How to easily make "custom" AJAX functionality (not necessarily forms)
Maybe it would be
I thought I had been through most of the site, but I had never seen
the shadow services page.
Thanks for the link, Howard!
mrg
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> You know how you can inject the Request? Well the Request service is
> really an extension of the per-threa
I think documentation and small/focused cookbook-type examples (thank
goodness for JumpStart) are the biggest hurdle to people learning and
using T5 currently. (At least that is my experience.) The user
community and framework are robust, but figuring out how to do
something can be challenging at
Em Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:35:09 -0200, Michael Gentry
escreveu:
Shadow builders? I've only been using T5 for about 2 months now.
When do I learn about shadow builders? :-)
The documentation is here. The concept is simple. :)
--
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Independent Java, Apache Tapestry
You know how you can inject the Request? Well the Request service is
really an extension of the per-thread RequestGlobals object, which
stores the Request and Response.
Turns out, Tapestry can implement this approach for you automatically;
creating a proxy object that delegates all of its method
Shadow builders? I've only been using T5 for about 2 months now.
When do I learn about shadow builders? :-)
mrg
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Carl Crowder wrote:
> Agreed: the main thing Tapestry is lacking is a book that explains not just
> the basics but also concepts that it takes months
I would prioritize the directions in the following way:
1) T5.1.1.x with important bugfixes
2) The website ( the future book can be just a compilation and
extension of website materials)
3-4) T5.2 and book
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try, go to the tapestry site, the documentation is
awesome!".
Just my thoughts!
On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Inge Solvoll wrote:
From: Inge Solvoll
Date: November 9, 2009 5:34:33 PM GMT+09:00
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: [Tapestry Central] Next Steps for Tapestry
Book. Web site
+1 for code
The Tap 5 codebase lacks aome givens in nowadays development. Getting a
simple app up and running with basic user management and security shouldn't
take longer than 10 minutes and also flow support out of the box is
mandatory.
Other than that the online docs and tutorials should be co
I think you should write the book, but only if there's going to be a
T5.1.1.x set of releases with bugfixes - this is long overdue in my
opinion. (we have too many 'temporary' tapestry fixes - > it's annoying &
embarrassing) I don't think there's any pressing need for T5.2 yet (IMHO)
but there
I think you should write the book, but only if there's going to be a T5.1.1.x
set of releases with bugfixes - this is long overdue in my opinion. (we have
too many 'temporary' tapestry fixes - it's annoying & embarrassing) I don't
think there's any pressing need for T5.2 yet (IMHO) but there are
Book. Web site. Marketing. Strategy.
Just to make a statement here: THE TAPESTRY 5 CODE IS MORE THAN GOOD
ENOUGH!! The quality of the code and the framework just isn't the
bottleneck. I think we all can agree on that?
Who cares about Spring Web Flow or portlet support? Do we really think that
suc
You need to write the book IMO.
We've seen several attempts to start a book* on here but it hasn't
happened and probably won't.
Others will contribute to the current code. 5.2 can wait, I'm sure.
* an English Tapestry 5 book, that is.
-Original Message-
From: Howard [mailto:hls...@gmai
Howard, you touch too many points to make a very concise reply, but I
agree with many others encouraging you to continue coding 5.2 before
you start writing a book. By now, you probably have a fairly good idea
how you could improve things and I'd hate to have the first book on
Tapestry5 to already
Hi Alex,
I'll ask the publisher again and suggest your idea.
08.11.2009, в 17:41, Alex Kotchnev написал(а):
Igor : just an idea on the translation front. I know that the NetBeans
community already did two "community translated" books from German,
so it
might be interesting if the same mode
Igor : just an idea on the translation front. I know that the NetBeans
community already did two "community translated" books from German, so it
might be interesting if the same model is possible in the Tapestry
community. I think it was mostly a volunteer effort but it got two NetBeans
RCP books t
Well, I think you should do what you feel is best for you right now. If you
need a timeout from coding then write a book. If you feel a book will take
too much of your time then code again. I'm still hoping my publisher will
translate my book. So maybe there will be an english book even if you deci
Couldn't it be a hybrid approach? One day or week coding Tapestry, then
the next writing the book?
By the way, I'd love write a Tapestry book. One company here at Belo
Horizonte, Brazil has just contracted me to have both introductory and
advanced Tapestry courses. My plans are to write the textb
Howard:
I agree with the posters that say "refine your code-base" as priority one,
and I agree that writing the book is a very close priority two. So the
question isn't really which should you do, as both are crucial to Tapestry
the product and it's community of users.
The problem is how best to
I understand that book would be valuable addition to Tapestry, but I would
also prefer you to spend your time doing the coding, and if I may add, not
so much on new features (like Spring Web Flow), but more on improving
already present ideas since there are many places for improvement. One thing
Howard, why don't collaborate with Igor to have the book in Engllish?
Instead of starting a new project for it you can try to have Igor book
as a starting point or even better a final point and only have to
translate a commonly reviewed version and publish it together .
I understand you want to ha
Carl Crowder schrieb:
Agreed: the main thing Tapestry is lacking is a book that explains not
just the basics but also concepts that it takes months of working with
Tapestry to discover. Things like shadow builders and so on. I don't
care who writes one as long as there's a definitive guide!
+1
I think both are necessary to make tapestry more popular, but i think would
be better if you work on code, tapestry is already known by a lot of people,
i’m a 24 years old Mexican and in my 3 years of experience i already have
been part of 2 tapestry 5 big projects, the first last 10 months and i’
> So the question is: do I wait and see if time opens up in Q1 to
> actually start on a T5 book ... or do I jump into 5.2 coding and leave
> books to others?
+1 for coding, as there already is a very good book available (written by
Igor). Why do it twice - what's lacking is just an english transl
+1 "Bible" Book :-)
Antonio
Carl Crowder escribió:
Agreed: the main thing Tapestry is lacking is a book that explains not
just the basics but also concepts that it takes months of working with
Tapestry to discover. Things like shadow builders and so on. I don't
care who writes one as long as
There already is one - written by Igor - but unfortunately not (yet?)
available in English.
Uli
Carl Crowder schrieb:
Agreed: the main thing Tapestry is lacking is a book that explains not
just the basics but also concepts that it takes months of working with
Tapestry to discover. Things like
Agreed: the main thing Tapestry is lacking is a book that explains not
just the basics but also concepts that it takes months of working with
Tapestry to discover. Things like shadow builders and so on. I don't
care who writes one as long as there's a definitive guide!
jose luis sanchez wrote:
Book ! Book ! Book !
El 07/11/2009, a las 19:11, Howard escribió:
I've been consciously letting Tapestry 5.1 sit and stabilize for a
while ... a time that's stretched a few months longer than I initially
intended.
This is due to a number of factors: my return to independent
consulting, my desir
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