Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-03 Thread Tony Anecito
Hi Chuck, You did not see my earlier response where I came to the same conclusion about the types after looking at some other sites including a wiki. Yes there was some confusion but now I am clear that it is compiler dependant as I said earlier. Thanks, -Tony

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 3/1/2011 6:27 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: I believe the effect of compression is relative. In other words for a big program with lots of 64-bit pointers and 64-bit longs it is helps but for small programs it does not. A long in Java is

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 3/1/2011 6:09 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance I don't understand why communicating a 64-bit value over a 64-bit bus

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-02 Thread Tony Anecito
message.   Regards, -Tony - Original Message From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:12:43 PM Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 3

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-02 Thread Tony Anecito
, 2011 9:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance Actually according to the IBM porting guide longs are different byte lengths depending upon what frame of reference they are speaking to. On page 4 of the following port guide: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/jdk/64bitporting

RE: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Tony Anecito [mailto:adanec...@yahoo.com] Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance On page 4 of the following port guide: http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/jdk/64bitporting/64BitJavaPortingGuide.pdf It states:For Windows, on 32-bit systems, integers, longs and pointers

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 2/28/2011 2:57 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Since the memory pointers are larger you may need to increase your heap size but you can compress the address pointers. +1 Also, if you use JNI and it is 32-bit then you will have unexpected

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Tony Anecito
the keywords: java 64-bit vs 32-bit performance You will find alot of discussion about this. Regards, -Tony - Original Message From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:29:11 AM Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Tony Anecito
:29:11 AM Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 2/28/2011 2:57 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Since the memory pointers are larger you may need to increase your heap size but you can compress the address pointers. +1 Also, if you use

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 3/1/2011 3:24 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Also, I have not programmed in assembly language or in hexadecimal for some time but I would hope that for a 32-bit java process running on a 64-bit processor I would fetch a 32-bit pointer and

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Tony Anecito
Hi Chris, I guess you have not read my last email yet. I think of it as putting two 32-bit pieces of info on a 64-bit data bus whereas for two 64-bit pieces of information it takes two fetches or twice as long on the same hardware. Depending upon the number of bytes for each data type for

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 3/1/2011 4:19 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: I guess you have not read my last email yet. I think of it as putting two 32-bit pieces of info on a 64-bit data bus whereas for two 64-bit pieces of information it takes two fetches or twice as

RE: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance Are you saying that a 32-bit JVM running on a 64-bit machine somehow utilizes the 64-bit bus? Malarkey. I wouldn't bet on that. Intel goes to great pains to insure all

RE: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance I don't understand why communicating a 64-bit value over a 64-bit bus would take longer than communicating a 32-bit value over a 64-bit bus: Because you get *two* 32-bit values

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 3/1/2011 5:42 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance Are you saying that a 32-bit JVM running on a 64-bit machine somehow

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Tony Anecito
From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 3:00:53 PM Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 3/1/2011 4:19 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: I guess you

Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Tony Anecito
to not get emotional about it but I do miss my 8080 and Z80. -Tony - Original Message From: Caldarale, Charles R chuck.caldar...@unisys.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 4:09:10 PM Subject: RE: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance From: Christopher

RE: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance

2011-03-01 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: [OT] IIS7/isapi/tomcat performance The question I have is how does the bus controller know that there are multiple 32-bit values coming down the line, and that it can send them simultaneously down the bus