Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-08-03 Thread DIGLLOYD INC
I've been having the same issues others have been asking about. This discussion has been useful, but... === What is a viable workaround for switching to http from https once the user is authenticated? And is that idea unreasonable (see use case below). My main concern is that sending

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-08-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lloyd, DIGLLOYD INC wrote: | What is a viable workaround for switching to http from https once | the user is authenticated? Simple: make sure that the user has a session before you switch into HTTPS mode. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, André Warnier wrote: | thank you for the explanations below. And I apologise if I answered | rather testily before. It happens. Just remember that Mark happens to be a Tomcat dev, so he's in a position to know the Truth ;) - -chris

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, Sorry, one more comment: André Warnier wrote: | Off-topic : Are you sure that can really happen ? I must admit that I | have never seen that behaviour before, and it seems to me that it would | create a host of other problems (such as

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin, Martin wrote: | If you're in a secure location that disallows cookies..you can always | try url-rewrite Dude. The container does URL rewriting without requiring other tools. Stop confusing people with this junk. - -chris -BEGIN PGP

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-10 Thread Mark Thomas
Christopher Schultz wrote: André, André Warnier wrote: | thank you for the explanations below. And I apologise if I answered | rather testily before. It happens. Just remember that Mark happens to be a Tomcat dev, so he's in a position to know the Truth ;) Not that that means I am always

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Rainer Jung
krusek schrieb: We use tomcat forms authentication and it is cookies being used. There are 3 cookies, JSESSONIDSSO, test and JSESSONID. Not sure how you tell if its marked secure? The test cookie is for testing to assure cookies are enabled. As explained below, my Firefox tells me, for

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidson
Johnny Kewl wrote: Bill... Just lose the FORM authentication, replace it with DIGEST, or even BASIC I think all your problems will go away. I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. Are you saying that I shouldn't be authenticating through a form?

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidson
Bill Davidson wrote: I'm confused so I'm not sure what I say below makes sense. If I'm reading these posts correctly, the cookie is issued by the front end (which is Apache web server). Since it is created on an https session, it is being marked as secure. When browser switches to a

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidson
BTW, I forgot to thank everyone for helping me to understand what this problem better. Understanding that the cookie was being created by Tomcat with the secure flag and that the flag was causing the problem was the key. Thanks everyone. --Bill Davidson

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Martin
- From: Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6 BTW, I forgot to thank everyone for helping me to understand what this problem better

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidson
Martin wrote: If you're in a secure location that disallows cookies..you can always try url-rewrite Sorry if I seem a bit dim but I don't understand how url-rewriting helps me with cookie problems. - To start a new topic,

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Johnny Kewl
- Original Message - From: Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6 Johnny Kewl wrote: Bill... Just lose the FORM

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidson
Johnny Kewl wrote: maybe moving from HTTPs to HTTP is just a bad idea. No doubt. However, I didn't design this app and it's not up to me. BTW, it's an old app. It's running on Tomcat 3.2.4 in production to give you an idea of its age. We want to move to a newer server first and then work on

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Johnny Kewl
- Original Message - From: Johnny Kewl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:19 AM Subject: Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6 - Original Message - From: Bill Davidson

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-09 Thread Johnny Kewl
- Original Message - From: Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6 Johnny Kewl wrote: maybe moving from HTTPs to HTTP

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-08 Thread André Warnier
Mark, thank you for the explanations below. And I apologise if I answered rather testily before. Mark Thomas wrote: André Warnier wrote: Mark Thomas wrote: André Warnier wrote: A lot of speculation here, but who knows ? Indeed. And it is all wrong. Is that proven, or mere speculation

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-08 Thread Mark Thomas
André Warnier wrote: Mark, thank you for the explanations below. And I apologise if I answered rather testily before. No problem. I can be a little short too sometimes. The problem is that some clients (as a result of the ISP they are using) change IP with every request. Off-topic : Are

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-08 Thread André Warnier
Mark Thomas wrote: ... The problem is that some clients (as a result of the ISP they are using) change IP with every request. Off-topic : Are you sure that can really happen ? I must admit that I have never seen that behaviour before, and it seems to me that it would create a host of

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-08 Thread Bill Davidson
I'm confused so I'm not sure what I say below makes sense. If I'm reading these posts correctly, the cookie is issued by the front end (which is Apache web server). Since it is created on an https session, it is being marked as secure. When browser switches to a non-secure page on the same

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-08 Thread Johnny Kewl
- Original Message - From: Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6 I'm confused so I'm not sure what I say below makes

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-07 Thread Mark Thomas
André Warnier wrote: Mark Thomas wrote: André Warnier wrote: A lot of speculation here, but who knows ? Indeed. And it is all wrong. Is that proven, or mere speculation on your part ? That is fact. In the cases where Tomcat does do an internal redirect it uses a RequestDispatcher.forward()

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-06 Thread Rainer Jung
krusek wrote: I have Apache 2 with SSL, mod_jk connection, and Tomcat. Everything has worked peachy from one tomcat upgrade after another. However now I upgraded to tomcat 6 and I am loosing the session when switching from https to http within the same domain. For clarity, Apache 2 is

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-06 Thread krusek
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Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-06 Thread André Warnier
Hi. A couple of emails ago, I think you showed the code that was doing a redirect, and said that that was where it seemed to be losing the cookie. Let me get back to a couple of my oen emails ago, just to set matters straight : a cookie is a browser thing. If the browser has never seen the

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-06 Thread Mark Thomas
André Warnier wrote: A lot of speculation here, but who knows ? Indeed. And it is all wrong. To my knowledge, there exists no case where the browser would not send a cookie with every request, if it has it and it is valid. Well, there is the obvious example Rainer has already given of

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-06 Thread Len Popp
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 15:11, krusek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 3 cookies, JSESSONIDSSO, test and JSESSONID. Not sure how you tell if its marked secure? Some browsers can tell you this. Check your browser's documentation. But what I don't understand is why it worked before - I thought

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-06 Thread André Warnier
Mark Thomas wrote: André Warnier wrote: A lot of speculation here, but who knows ? Indeed. And it is all wrong. Is that proven, or mere speculation on your part ? To my knowledge, there exists no case where the browser would not send a cookie with every request, if it has it and it is

Re: Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-05 Thread Bill Davidson
krusek wrote: I have Apache 2 with SSL, mod_jk connection, and Tomcat. Everything has worked peachy from one tomcat upgrade after another. However now I upgraded to tomcat 6 and I am loosing the session when switching from https to http within the same domain. For clarity, Apache 2 is

Session lost when switching from https to http after upgrade to Tomcat 6

2008-06-04 Thread krusek
not tomcat. Does anyone know why this is happening? Thanks! Kevin -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Session-lost-when-switching-from-https-to-http-after-upgrade-to-Tomcat-6-tp17658157p17658157.html Sent from the Tomcat - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com