Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-13 Thread HHB
Currently, I'm rewriting our GWT-based application and I picked Wicket. GWT is delicious but only on papers. GWT cons: 1. lack of roles separation, building the GUI in the code doesn't work for me. 2. Hibernate integration is a nightmare. 3. Unit testing isn't that agile thing. I like GWT but I wo

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-10 Thread Sergey Didenko
Casper, for the case when you can not enforce your users to have javascript, it's more worthwhile to compare Wicket to Tapestry5. I'm evaluating the latter right now. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Casper Bang wrote: > I was just wondering about the Wicket community's opinion of GWT. It seems >

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-09 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I really like the idea behind GWT. And striving for a statically typed 'true' OO programming model is what GWT and Wicket have in common. I haven't build anything with GWT, so my opinions in this respect are what I infer from how I think GWT works. I expect GWT to scale more easily if you plan wel

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-09 Thread Brill Pappin
There is no real easy way, but to do it :) I find the hardest thing about Wicket, particularly when your first starting out, is discarding all the old ideas about how a webapp is built... Having worked in the field for a long time, servlets, JSPs, Struts, etc. it took me a while to get over

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread ying rss
I played with both GWT and wicket. I was drawn to wicket by several reviews and I'm disappointed. I use maven to build gwt and ext-js and GXT which works very well. Compilation is slow but with tuning to specific browser, the call stack is straight forward. It's my feeling that GWT is closer to c

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Ben Tilford
There was a grails-wicket plugin but I don't think it works with any recent version. They are also working on making grails more modular with standalone GORM etc... Also heard somewhere that Groovy 1.7 or 1.8 will allow anonymous inner classes. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Andre Prasetya wrote

Re: Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread nick
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Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Andre Prasetya
Zk ia good for buildng qpplication bt the zul wndow layout is just like that. And the license os stopping us from buildng commercial apps wthout buying their licnse.it worth th money but if u live in an economically poor country,you can't afford it. I wish wicket can play nicely with grails,having

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Brill Pappin
Getting to to do something specific is not usually my problem with GWT (its component model feels just like Wickets does)... the biggest problem I have is having less control over the html, which makes things a bit harder to deal with (Googles ui style now is partly the result of how you wo

Re: Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread nick
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Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Casper Bang
> P.S. people say my article is "one sided" but no-one can explain *why ;) - > ok, ok this has been discussed to death in the comments there ... > I should mention I love wicket (coming from JSF) but has only limited exposure to it while having no experience at all with GWT. However while readin

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Thomas
I thought Matt Raible had some success with getting GWT to play nice with Maven: http://raibledesigns.com/rd/entry/modularizing_gwt_applications_with_gwt Personally I would choose GWT only when I want to keep server calls to a bare minimum. "Ready made" components and all may look enticing, but

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Brill Pappin
Yah, its a pitty, but the Google guys are pretty down on Maven. I once asked them to look into making it more maven friendly, and got throughly blasted. if I remember correctly the comment from one of the GWT developers was something along the lines of "we don't want to waste our time with

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Brill Pappin
I've used both extensively now. I think the comparison is an apples <-> oranges thing however. GWT does not really play well with other frameworks because of its generated code, but if your doing a mostly client side/ajaxy application, nothing beats it for performance and maintainability.

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Azzeddine Daddah
Hi, You may also take a look at ZK framework. It's also a kind of framework which can be used to build beautiful RIA's. You can chose to use it by writing your app in just Java or in Java/Zul. http://www.zkoss.org But in my opinion, Wicket stills beter then these kind of frameworks :) Regards,

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Casper Bang
> Peter Thomas did a great side by side you should checkout: Good article, if perhaps a bit one-sided. I can understand how separation-of-concerns/composability comes slightly more natural to Wicket. However the performance, flexibility and component repertoire of GWT along with steadily more capa

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Ben Tilford
Working with GWT is kind of a nightmare. You have to write custom build scripts for any library / module you use so that the sources are included in the jar and available to the GWT compiler. Until GWT has a build system that is better I'll stay away from it. Really a shame because the programming

Re: GWT vs. Wicket?

2009-04-08 Thread Craig Tataryn
Peter Thomas did a great side by side you should checkout: http://ptrthomas.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/wicket-and-gwt-compared-with-code/ Craig. On 8-Apr-09, at 8:11 AM, Casper Bang wrote: I was just wondering about the Wicket community's opinion of GWT. It seems to share many of the positive c