Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-20 Thread Jonathan Locke
well, i have thought about this for about 90 seconds, but we need to start somewhere: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Wicket+Component+JAR+Metadata if people could pitch in and add ideas to the list, we can pare it down later brian.diekelman wrote: Jonathan Locke

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-20 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
Looking good, I just added metadata about javascript libraries (versions etc)... Jonathan Locke wrote: well, i have thought about this for about 90 seconds, but we need to start somewhere: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Wicket+Component+JAR+Metadata if people could pitch

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-19 Thread Jonathan Locke
was thinking the same thing and would be the icing on the cake. website never shuts down... crawler adds components and the demos just appear on the site automagically via OSGi. mebbe we need cheeser's transparent OSGi first though? brian.diekelman wrote: Jonathan Locke wrote: -

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-19 Thread Jonathan Locke
this sort of marketplace might give JSF's claim to have lots of prefab components a real run for the money... i think with some effort, we could do this in a few weeks... Jonathan Locke wrote: was thinking the same thing and would be the icing on the cake. website never shuts down...

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-19 Thread Daniel Frisk
A friend of mine has a motto Appearence is everything. If this component marketplace also get a reasonably sexy frontend it could be a real winner. We have developed a kind of Theme marketplace for our photo album software but since we are tech guys we suitably named it Skin repository

idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
my RSI is bad so please forgive the terseness. the idea: - make an automated wicket component library - define packaging structure for wicket library components - structure of package would define component metadata like svn, faq, help, etc (probably in meta.inf created from maven pom info

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
uh, this library is of course a web site... ;-) Jonathan Locke wrote: my RSI is bad so please forgive the terseness. the idea: - make an automated wicket component library - define packaging structure for wicket library components - structure of package would define component

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
Exactly what I meant with the mail to dev a week ago. So I think it's all good. And actually could raise the wicketstuff standard. +1!, I guess binding since im a wicketstuff developer:) Jonathan Locke wrote: uh, this library is of course a web site... ;-) Jonathan Locke wrote: my RSI

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Azzeddine Daddah
+1 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly what I meant with the mail to dev a week ago. So I think it's all good. And actually could raise the wicketstuff standard. +1!, I guess binding since im a wicketstuff developer:)

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
This is the original idea of wicket-library.com iirc. Perhaps we should try to revive this effort and implement it using your ideas. Unfortunately I'm strung for time with Wicket in Action and getting a social life back when that is completed. Martijn On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Jonathan

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
I'd be very happy to do some effort at it, I dont have much of a social life and im not writing a book. So I have time:) But I do need some pointers getting started. Martijn Dashorst wrote: This is the original idea of wicket-library.com iirc. Perhaps we should try to revive this effort and

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread John Krasnay
How would this be different than just deploying a bunch of fine-grained JARs via Maven? jk On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:49:06AM -0700, Jonathan Locke wrote: my RSI is bad so please forgive the terseness. the idea: - make an automated wicket component library - define packaging structure

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Nino Saturnino Martinez Vazquez Wael
Not much, but currently there arent such an effort.. And making it available via an website just makes it more accessible. John Krasnay wrote: How would this be different than just deploying a bunch of fine-grained JARs via Maven? jk On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:49:06AM -0700, Jonathan Locke

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Brill Pappin
Don't we already have that with Maven? I like the idea but I think that the minor extra step of turning your shared components into their own module is a good thing, keeps everything sane. However it might be nice to have a repo that can publish all this to (the repo1 server is a pain to

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
also, locating components automatically via crawling means no central point of organization creating an admin bottleneck the web IS the component db and all components published to maven repos just get picked up if they have the right metadata Nino.Martinez wrote: Not much, but currently

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
why not crawl a whole list of repos? or as many as we can find? Brill Pappin wrote: Don't we already have that with Maven? I like the idea but I think that the minor extra step of turning your shared components into their own module is a good thing, keeps everything sane. However

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Brill Pappin
That was exactly my question... I think the process you go through to do that is important so the rest of us are not tearing out our hear trying to work with 3rd party components. - Brill On 18-Jun-08, at 9:16 AM, John Krasnay wrote: How would this be different than just deploying a bunch

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Brill Pappin
Now that is an interesting idea... Use standard maven modules, but write a plugin that adds a little extra info for the wicket stuff site ?? - Brill On 18-Jun-08, at 9:53 AM, Jonathan Locke wrote: also, locating components automatically via crawling means no central point of

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
bingo! we just need to get the metadata right. Brill Pappin wrote: Now that is an interesting idea... Use standard maven modules, but write a plugin that adds a little extra info for the wicket stuff site ?? - Brill On 18-Jun-08, at 9:53 AM, Jonathan Locke wrote: also,

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Brill Pappin
got it... like the idea (useful for others besides wicket as well) That is sort of done already with the groupId/artifactId structure, but I get what you going for here. It would be fairly trivial to add meta data to the library but its much more of a pain to crawl that... what would be

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Brill Pappin
Well I could write a plugin easily enough I think the issue is where the metadata is stored and how your going to find them... you don't want to have to download every library from every repo just to find them. - Brill On 18-Jun-08, at 10:03 AM, Jonathan Locke wrote: bingo! we

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
why not? you just do it slowly like google crawler. stuff might not show up for hours or days, but at least it is all there. Brill Pappin wrote: Well I could write a plugin easily enough I think the issue is where the metadata is stored and how your going to find them... you don't

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
there is already pom meta data in the repo isn't there? Jonathan Locke wrote: why not? you just do it slowly like google crawler. stuff might not show up for hours or days, but at least it is all there. Brill Pappin wrote: Well I could write a plugin easily enough I think

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread John Krasnay
Oh, I see now. You want to create something like http://mvnrepository.com, right? That would be great. I use that site all the time. jk On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:16:32AM -0700, Jonathan Locke wrote: there is already pom meta data in the repo isn't there? Jonathan Locke wrote:

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Brill Pappin
Yes, and there is repo metadata as well... that lists things like version etc. - Brill On 18-Jun-08, at 10:16 AM, Jonathan Locke wrote: there is already pom meta data in the repo isn't there? Jonathan Locke wrote: why not? you just do it slowly like google crawler. stuff might not

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
let's start a wiki page listing all the metadata people can think of that might be useful and then vote on the initial list... only thing i can think of to mix in would be comments and ratings. that could come later. Brill Pappin wrote: Yes, and there is repo metadata as well... that

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Brill Pappin
Don't bother with the comments... at least not in the metadata... once you can identify a wicket component you can get everything else you need from the POM (name, description, site etc). All you really need to be able to do is tag a wicket module thats easy for a crawler to get at. In

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Locke
of course not. comments and ratings are /mixed in/ on the site via some db assoc. all else is metadata. thats what i meant. Brill Pappin wrote: Don't bother with the comments... at least not in the metadata... once you can identify a wicket component you can get everything else you

Re: idea: automatic component repo

2008-06-18 Thread brian.diekelman
Jonathan Locke wrote: - (only signed) jars could be automatically picked up by some naming pattern from maven repos and deployed as live demos Once a signed jar is identified, what about something like OSGi to deploy it? - metadata would define an application name - load the