[USMA:24086] Re: tonne = kiloGRAM (An Off Shoot)

2002-12-17 Thread Bill Potts
I should of course have used the present tense with respect to the Cal and cal calories (well, Cal, anyway). I guess it'll be some time before we see nutrition information in joules. Fortunately, things like heat dissipation rates are now shown in watts (W) or kilowatts (kW), rather than calories

[USMA:24085] RE: Fwd: Re: obsolete units

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Joy
Terry said:- | John Nichols wrote: | >Fair go it is hard to write down 25000 sq metres or 0.0025 km2 | > | >2.5 ha is much easier | | When you start to square or cube units, you get several issues: | | 1. Nomenclature gets more complicated to say and write. | | 2. Intervals get squared or cubed an

[USMA:24084] Re: tonne = kiloGRAM (An Off Shoot)

2002-12-17 Thread Bill Potts
The gauss uses G as its symbol, not g. As the English versions of unit names in SI are always lower case, GRAM would be totally unacceptable. In speech, there would certainly be no way to distinguish between gram and GRAM. With the obsolete Calorie and calorie, one could at least understand which

[USMA:24083] Re: Fwd: hPa

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Joy
John said:- | In Australia the news gives the pressure in hPa | | we need to cut the public a break it is probably the only pressure number | they use and it retains the feel of mbar. | | By the way Barbie is metric and she should be added to the list | I bought an American metric Barbie for my da

[USMA:24082] Card

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Joy
Hi all, I just heard on the news that there is a new virus embedded in an e-mail Christmas Card circulating around now. I can assure you that the one I sent a few days ago did not contain any virus - it was scanned on my computer. Best regards Mike Joy

[USMA:24080] Re: error

2002-12-17 Thread kilopascal
2002-12-17 You better make sure Anne pays that bill or you might find something shut off when you return. John - Original Message - From: "John Nichols" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 2002-12-17 14:32 Subject: [USMA:24079] error >

[USMA:24079] error

2002-12-17 Thread John Nichols
My apologies, I sent an email to the list that was meant for someone else. I am sorry John Nichols BE, Ph.D. (Newcastle), MIE (Aust), Chartered Professional Engineer Assistant Professor Texas A&M University Department of Construction Science Langford AC Rm: A414 MD 3137 College Station, TX 77

[USMA:24078] Bill

2002-12-17 Thread John Nichols
Anne, I believe I have sent you enough data to pay the bill if not let me know. I can make the 6 Jan meeting. John Nichols BE, Ph.D. (Newcastle), MIE (Aust), Chartered Professional Engineer Assistant Professor Texas A&M University Department of Construction Science Langford AC Rm: A414 MD 3

[USMA:24076] Re: tonne = megagram

2002-12-17 Thread Joseph B. Reid
Gene Mechtly wrote in USMA 24062: Prefixes applied to the gram form *less coherent* multiples and submultiples. Incoherence of units is not a serious problem for retail trade, but reduces simplicity of science and engineering calculations. Gene. Use of the tonne does not solve he problem.

[USMA:24077] RE: Ton = 1 000 kg

2002-12-17 Thread Joseph B. Reid
Terry Simpson wrote in USMA 24058: Gene Mechtly wrote: > Are you suggesting that the normal SI prefixes should not apply for > mass? No, but applied according to the preferences I cited above. Just to be clear, I take it that you prefer the sequence: pg picogram ng nanogram µg microgram

[USMA:24075] RE: Fwd: Re: obsolete units

2002-12-17 Thread Terry Simpson
John Nichols wrote: >Fair go it is hard to write down 25000 sq metres or 0.0025 km2 > >2.5 ha is much easier When you start to square or cube units, you get several issues: 1. Nomenclature gets more complicated to say and write. 2. Intervals get squared or cubed and people aren't comfortable or

[USMA:24074] RE: Paper

2002-12-17 Thread Bill Potts
John Nichols wrote: >Just out to interest how does one spell mitre in the USA as in mitre box. The official US spelling is miter. Larger dictionaries also include mitre (as a separate entry), but point out that it is the British spelling. >And in Australia I was asked by a student if we used plyw

[USMA:24073] Fwd: Re: obsolete units

2002-12-17 Thread John Nichols
If you are doing drainage studies in Urban areas the hectare is the perfect unit as it is not to small or to big. Fair go it is hard to write down 25000 sq metres or 0.0025 km2 2.5 ha is much easier What is wrong with using the are anyway it is a nice size. grinning slightly X-Sender: [EMAIL P

[USMA:24071] Fwd: hPa

2002-12-17 Thread John Nichols
In Australia the news gives the pressure in hPa we need to cut the public a break it is probably the only pressure number they use and it retains the feel of mbar. By the way Barbie is metric and she should be added to the list I bought an American metric Barbie for my daughter last night all in

[USMA:24072] Paper

2002-12-17 Thread John Nichols
Dear All: As I look forward to a long flight to Australia, I will recount the story of reading a paper by a US Associate Professor who used the term consistently metric ton. It took up so much space in the paper and was repeated time after time. In the end I went back and changed them all to

[USMA:24070] metric candy

2002-12-17 Thread Jim Elwell
A local store is selling a variety of candy products from Haribo of America. They are labeled "Mandufactured for Haribo of America, Inc. (Baltimore, Maryland); Made in Spain by Haribo Espana" They are all in hard-metric sizes. The one I bought: candy Haribo gummi frogs 150 g (actual label:

[USMA:24069] Re: hPa

2002-12-17 Thread G. Stanley Doore
Terry: The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) establishes meteorological standards and codes. Individual countries can deviate from them internal to their own county. That's why the US FTs and obs codes differ from the WMO internal to the US. The TAFs are prepared by the source country or

[USMA:24068] RE: not encouraged = obsolete

2002-12-17 Thread Terry Simpson
Carl Sorenson wrote: >>Would you report it as a "deviation from the metric system" if the >>specification said the software 'shall use the metric system'? > >If you are trying to fulfill a contract, seek written clarification. >If there is a dispute about an existing contract, seek a lawyer and >j

[USMA:24067] Re: Ton = 1 000 kg

2002-12-17 Thread kilopascal
2002-12-17 The problem with a unit name of einstein is that it becomes a tongue twister. It might sound better if the unit became just stein (meaning stone) and its symbol could be st. Then you would have: etc. pst = picostein nst = nanostein µst = microstein mst = millistein st = stein kst = k

[USMA:24066] Ton = 1 000 kg

2002-12-17 Thread Tom Wade VMS Systems
>However, Joe, it is a multiple of a submultiple, E6 x E-3 kg, a *double* >multiple in the format of powers of ten, ... I think we are into angels-on-pin territory here. The Mg has to be at least as valid as the familiar mg, submultiple of multiple notwithstanding. Are you suggesting that use of