Re: [Veritas-bu] HP Data Protector vs Veritas Net Backup

2015-12-22 Thread Wayne T Smith
The only OST difference that I recall is that with OST you don' need the mount. ​ As I didn't have multiple media servers, I cannot attest to the effect of that.​ Cheers, Wayne On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote ​, in part​ : > Thanks for that info. > > Just to clarify tho

Re: [Veritas-bu] older version issue.... netbackup 6.5.6

2015-07-28 Thread Wayne T Smith
Congrats on testing! As you found, it is important to also get the archive redo logs post-backup. Cheers, Wayne ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] What's LiveUpdate like these days?

2015-02-11 Thread Wayne T Smith
I'd retire. Cheers, Wayne On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Dean wrote: > Hello folks, > > I've never used LiveUpdate, partly because I've never had to do a mass > update of many hosts, and partly because of some negative comments about it > on this mailing list. > > But my current engagement

Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Backups....

2014-03-24 Thread Wayne T Smith
There's at least one knowledge-base article on how to do that, but I don't have its number handy. :-( My too-old NetBackup experience (i.e., I expect there to be better/newer info now), is that if you are restoring to the same hardware ... - install Windows, networking and NetBackup to a sepa

Re: [Veritas-bu] question about online agent jobs

2014-01-13 Thread Wayne T Smith
I don't know SAP, so I apologize for answering w/o direct knowledge. However, in my experience with Oracle databases, I find that backup jobs can have an extreme impact on the other work of a database ... as in 10-100 times slowdown of other work in some of the databases I work with. On the other

Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN Recovery issue and Netbackup 7.1.0.2

2013-12-13 Thread Wayne T Smith
It's been several years since I've had tape, but it sounds to me like the DBA has done everything correctly for 6 channels. The problem, if you can call it a problem, is that the backup server (media server) has only or is allowed only 3 tape drives for the restore. On the other hand, perhaps t

Re: [Veritas-bu] 100% disk to disk

2013-09-11 Thread Wayne T Smith
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Lepley, Michael wrote , in part : > Those doing no tape what is your longest retention time? > We backup, but don't archive, with our backup systems. Nearly all of our backups are retained for 3 months. Due to an event, a particular backup may be retained

Re: [Veritas-bu] 100% disk to disk

2013-09-11 Thread Wayne T Smith
4 years. no tape. like. Cheers, Wayne On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dwayne Adams wrote , in part : > Hello, > > Who is really doing all disk backups for all their data sets today? I > keep hearing about the demise of tapes. This email is a survey to see if > shops are really doing this.

Re: [Veritas-bu] VMWARE client selection on cbt/non-cbt ?

2013-09-09 Thread Wayne T Smith
Well, if you can do SQL to the database, then look at view "v$block_change_tracking" ... for example, "select * from v$block_change_tracking;" On the other hand, I have no idea what block change tracking has to do with snapshots. Cheers, Wayne On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Michael Graff Anders

Re: [Veritas-bu] De-multiplexing

2013-01-30 Thread Wayne T Smith
To run a little further with what Rusty wrote, it appears that *any* tape you have used might contain data from the customers of interest. Backup images have probably been expiring for years. So if you are required to obliterate their data, not just expire it, you'll need to move everyone's curre

Re: [Veritas-bu] backup_exit_notify isn't being called.....Help

2012-11-28 Thread Wayne T Smith
Rather than echo, try creating a file. I don't recall this exit, but much of NetBackup uses standard output and your use of it will not work and/or screw up the works. Cheers, Wayne On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Dennis Peacock wrote: > OKRedHat 5.0 box running NBU 7.1.0.2 > This is a

Re: [Veritas-bu] Web Page for Backup Cancellations

2012-10-22 Thread Wayne T Smith
NetBackup has command-line interfaces that a script might use to build the web pages you want. However, it sounds easier and more productive to fix the broken backup system than to build something like you are describing. Cheers, Wayne On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:46 PM, diabolics wrote: > Thanks

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status Code 129

2012-09-12 Thread Wayne T Smith
I forget where it's specified, but NetBackup has a (max) size for a disk pool someplace ... maybe part of OST? I set it when I setup my Quantum disk appliance. For example, "nbdevquery -listdv -stype Quantum" shows me the "quota" in the 5th column. ymmv. Cheers, Wayne On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup , Vmware and Netapp

2012-09-04 Thread Wayne T Smith
I'd consider NetApp's Snap Mirror / Snap Vault. Cheers, Wayne On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Abhishek Dhingra1 < abhishek.dhin...@in.ibm.com> wrote, in part: > I have an infrastructure , where i have a critical windows machine on ESXi > box, total space occupied is 6TB, and the disk are coming

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 7.1 Migration

2012-07-06 Thread Wayne T Smith
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Re: [Veritas-bu] restores from client not working

2012-06-26 Thread Wayne T Smith
Thanks for the reply, Bluejay. Yes, that usually works for me, too, but not this time. Guess it's time to crank up logging on the server, if I can find an otherwise quiet time. Wayne On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Bluejay Adametz wrote, in part: > > I'm guessing > > that some part of the N

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade NetBackup from 6.5.6 (x86) to 7.1.0.4 (x64)

2012-06-01 Thread Wayne T Smith
The easiest migration of backups may be the one that you don't do. Cheers, Wayne On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Anurag Sharma wrote, in part: > Hi Team, > > We have one netbackup master server which is on x86 windows 2003 running > netbackup 6.5.6 with two tape libraries LTO2/LTO3 respectively

Re: [Veritas-bu] Archive list

2012-03-12 Thread Wayne T Smith
Good points and summary, Bob. My argument wasn't that archives are less restorable, especially if they were covered by scheduled backups before the archive. They are probably in as safe a place as the rest of the backups. What I meant was that without the live copy, my chances of losing the data

Re: [Veritas-bu] Archive list

2012-03-09 Thread Wayne T Smith
When I consider protecting data, I'm typically thinking of keeping them in multiple places that are as independent as possible. If I were to use NBU "archive", I would be basically chopping off one of the places where the data is stored (its original, live home). I think the place for NBU "archiv

Re: [Veritas-bu] Need help choosing backup solution

2012-03-07 Thread Wayne T Smith
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Dennis Peacock wrote, in part: > Netbackup is your backup solution. > Every backup product is different in strengths and weaknesses. I don't > know what your budget is, but Netbackup is an excellent choice for backup > software. > While we (I) have apparently misse

Re: [Veritas-bu] New backup

2012-01-24 Thread Wayne T Smith
Read about "calendar" and "frequency" schedules. Determine which you have or want. I much prefer calendar schedules and my "full" backups have "retry after run day" set. I have a "full" start window on every day and my calendar schedule has a check for one day each week, often Saturday. My "Inc

Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup 6.5: socket read failed ??

2011-11-16 Thread Wayne T Smith
Assuming you're using the standard "vnetd" communication, port 13782 is no longer required as it was with version 5/5.1 ... just port 13724. >From your NetBackup server(s), run "bptestbpcd -client< clientname>" for each client. Telnet on port 13724 will work, too, but the response is not as clear

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU catalog on NAS/SAN

2011-11-15 Thread Wayne T Smith
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH16116says "No". http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH33326says "No". Cheers, Wayne On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Sanders, Nate wrote: > What’s the best practice on moving the NBU master catalog

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU and Oracle

2011-11-07 Thread Wayne T Smith
There are probably several ways to do this. While I have a different vendor's disk appliance, I suspect similar capabilities. For us, license cost was an issue. Reducing NetBackup licenses (and involvement) in Oracle database backups to zero, we have our disk appliance export NFS mounts to our

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups (Wayne T Smith)

2011-09-29 Thread Wayne T Smith
I respectfully disagree in all respects. - Refusing to get a database backed up until management hires a DBA could be a "resume generating event". - Like it or not, the questioner appears to be the Oracle DBA, albeit one very early in his DBA career and learning on his own! - [redac

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question on DB online backups

2011-09-27 Thread Wayne T Smith
Ouch, having an Oracle database without a DBA is like having NetBackup without anyone that knows NetBackup. There are several ways to do backups of Oracle databases. These include - Cold, full. You take down the database and backup all associated disk space (data, redolog, and perhaps oth

Re: [Veritas-bu] Number of clients one NBU admin can manage.

2011-09-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
Mark, I would say we don't have enough information to answer the question. - If the sysadmins and DBAs are good and can be expected to get good at the client end of NetBackup (installation, connection issues, restore issues), perhaps with backup admin help learning NBU, much less backup

Re: [Veritas-bu] Status Code 800 again - Please help!

2011-09-01 Thread Wayne T Smith
Perhaps the policy or schedule for this backup is using an unexpected storage group? Cheers, Wayne On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:56 AM, thesunlover wrote: > I opend that thread you referred. > > It looks like the 800 error is regarding storage. There is only one tape > robot connecting to the single

Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Data Domain Question

2011-08-16 Thread Wayne T Smith
I can't answer your question either, but there should be a lot of "it depends" in any answer. - many dedup appliances will not only dedup but will do traditional compression. Compress your SQL dump with your favorite compression utility. Your dedup appliance is unlikely to do better at

Re: [Veritas-bu] 10GBit on Windows backup server

2011-07-21 Thread Wayne T Smith
Good point, and ditto for us. Our Quantum DXi6550 initially could have either 1G or 10G, but not both. We required both and Quantum, albeit too slowly for my taste, resolved in our favor. The next version of the DXi software has been said to ease the config issues, but I don't know if/how as we

Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN and NetBackup Question

2011-05-15 Thread Wayne T Smith
RMAN and NetBackup each has a retention and one can normally restore from a backup that has expired from neither. (One can "add back" a unexpired NetBackup image into the RMAN catalog, as one can import a tape image back into the NetBackup catalog) RMAN does not know the Netbackup retention nor d

Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle 11G backup with netbackup 6.5.6

2011-04-26 Thread Wayne T Smith
I may be way off base here, but I suspect something slightly different. My experience is that recent versions of Oracle database may have oracle_link run with the database running. Perhaps pranav did not run oracle_link after upgrading to 6.5.6? Are the NetBackup servers at 6.5.6? Cheers, Wayne

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup RMAN Connect String

2011-02-15 Thread Wayne T Smith
I don't recall the sample, but we use os authentication (I.e., "connect target;" ... no passwords ... os authentication). Cheers, Wayne On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Snyder, Nicholas A (IS) < nicholas.sny...@ngc.com> wrote, in part: > Implementing NetBackup Database Agent backups for Oracle.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quantum's DXi Series of Dedupe Appliances

2011-02-14 Thread Wayne T Smith
No. The normal operation is a true inline dedup, but you have an option to delay the dedup. We use the inline method and our OST-connected 6550 has met or exceeded our performance expectations. Cheers, Wayne On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Robin Small wrote, in part: > On the Quantum, > > >

Re: [Veritas-bu] EXIT STATUS 24: socket write failed

2011-01-24 Thread Wayne T Smith
Maybe some new version of NetBackup will use robust, programmed connections rather than the current hodge-podge that leads to untold customer frustrations and lost time. So many versions, so little gain.Wayne P.S. I think a Symantec note admits problems with larger buffers and some versions o

Re: [Veritas-bu] netbackup for Oracle configuration

2010-12-17 Thread Wayne T Smith
I've only found this true on older versions of Oracle. In fact, I ran a 6.5 "oracle_link" for an 11.1 home just a week or so ago with a DB up and running and after trying a backup that went "clunk" because the link had not yet been made for this Oracle home. Backups ran fine immediately after run

Re: [Veritas-bu] D2D or Tape Libraries

2010-10-08 Thread Wayne T Smith
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:49 AM, wrote, in part: > ... > This would be a very good time for you to investigate utilizing client side > de-dupe, Pure Disk, Media Server De-Dupe, one of the NBU appliances (which > have storage built in), or a Data Domain. > ... > or a Quantum ;-) Cheers, Wayne __

Re: [Veritas-bu] D2D or Tape Libraries

2010-10-07 Thread Wayne T Smith
When I went from tape on my telephone answering machine I had some misgivings, due mostly to "flexibility" of flipping the tape when full and fixed size storage. I've wanted a D2D2D backup system for several years and have been enjoying the one we now have for several months. Like any other IT s

Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbackup and socket read error (23)

2010-10-05 Thread Wayne T Smith
This sounds like a problem opening a connection from the client to the NetBackup server. On client and master/media servers (I assume you use the default "vnetd", port 13724, method and FQDN): 1. Test forward and reverse DNS for servers and client. If multiple IP addresses, adjust NBU conf

Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Client install blows up during the install....

2010-09-24 Thread Wayne T Smith
Judy's recommendation to "run as administrator" is a good one. That an older version was uninstalled makes the hair on the back of my neck tingle ... because of the uninstall, I recommend a Windows reboot before installing 6.5 ... and if anything NBUish happens on the reboot, reboot again. Turn A

Re: [Veritas-bu] Error Code 6 NBU 6.5

2010-09-14 Thread Wayne T Smith
In some earlier versions of NetBackup there was a bug where in some cases all Oracle backups would end with status code 6, but it's been fixed by v6.5. As the others have written, there may be detail in the child jobs or you may have to use logging that your RMAN script has created. For certain

Re: [Veritas-bu] Need HELP!!!!

2010-08-27 Thread Wayne T Smith
If I understand this correctly, we've seen a couple of problems like this, especially after our backup servers were placed back in a private network - maybe the client can't open a connection to the backup server due to firewall - maybe the client can't do reverse DNS lookup (or its domai

Re: [Veritas-bu] Question for NetBackup 7.0 Dedup user ORData Domain users

2010-08-25 Thread Wayne T Smith
As I've written previously on this list, I'm a Quantum 6550 customer ... smaller than the questioner's system, backing up about 10T from 120 or so clients on NetBackup v6.5 and OST. I'm a big fan of OST if you go with a Data Domain or Quantum appliance. I looked at Quantum OST a year ago, but it'

Re: [Veritas-bu] watching a running job (part 2)

2010-08-17 Thread Wayne T Smith
Take a look at the job details ... you may find that the job waited for a long period of time for a tape or tape drive to become available. Also, you might want to exclude the NetBackup catalog from your Master server backup (and make sure your catalog jobs are working). At least your DSSU trial

Re: [Veritas-bu] Nirvanix

2010-08-16 Thread Wayne T Smith
No impressions here, but I'll note that CommVault is advertising their product's use with Nirvanix. Cheers, Wayne On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Roy McMorran wrote: > I recently received a notification from the Symantec beta program about a > beta for cloud-based backup storage using Nirvan

Re: [Veritas-bu] Email restore using NBU?? Please help!! :(

2010-08-09 Thread Wayne T Smith
You might find "How to restore an Exchange 2003 database to a Recovery Storage Group" (http://support.veritas.com/docs/281259 aka http://entsupport.symantec.com/docs/281259) useful. Cheers, Wayne On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Tony1100 wrote: > I am desperate so any help is much appreciated! I

Re: [Veritas-bu] Facing Problem with flood of alerts EC-196 netbackup6.5

2010-08-04 Thread Wayne T Smith
As you know, the 196 status code means your backup job could not be started within its backup start window. It didn't start because it required a resource that wasn't available (to it) during the start window ... probably a place to put the backups or limits on number of backup streams/jobs for th

Re: [Veritas-bu] Data Domain OST

2010-07-17 Thread Wayne T Smith
I'm not sure one can learn much from such a generic question. Not what you were asking, but I get 60+MB/sec on a single stream or 120MB/sec all streams on my 6.5.5 Linux server via OST to a Quantum 6550, and that's via its 2 1Gb/S interfaces (bonded) ... should do better once Quantum gets the 10Gb

Re: [Veritas-bu] Performance tuning Windows 2008 client

2010-07-08 Thread Wayne T Smith
(Knowing nothing about Win2008R2 and little about VMs, ...) I'd want to get together with my network folks to see if I'm getting dropped packets during the test. Misconfigured connections and overloaded routers can kill performance. I'd also look at windows performance stats ... perhaps memory is

Re: [Veritas-bu] Dealing with frozen media in Netbackup

2010-06-16 Thread Wayne T Smith
I used to do more, but recently (on my v5.1 NetBackup setup) I've - look at /usr/openv/netbackup/db/media/errors once or twice a week, generally Monday and Friday when I tried to review that each client was having successful backups. - From the errors file, I'd look to see if there wer

Re: [Veritas-bu] best way suspend backups

2010-06-13 Thread Wayne T Smith
I like Steven's answer better than mine. ;-) Mine is to exclude the day for affected clients on my calendar-based backups ... rather tedious, compared to the "nbpemreq -suspend_scheduling" / "nbpemreq -resume_scheduling" method when one has many policies. Cheers, Wayne On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of unix client behind firewall

2010-06-11 Thread Wayne T Smith
The answer depends on your version of NetBackup. For v6.5 (and maybe 6.0 and 7.0), you don't need any as the communications defaults to "vnet" (port 13724). Open that port at client and server(s) and all should be well. Earlier versions required setting the "bpcd connect-back port" to vnetd for

Re: [Veritas-bu] FalconStor/NetApp w/OST

2010-06-07 Thread Wayne T Smith
Almost totally ignoring your questions, I'll offer that while NetApp has a dedup capability, I'm unaware of an OST plugin. We have a nice pair of Quantum 6550s using NetBackup 6.5.5 and OST ... and are happy customers. After using NetBackup "Vault" to duplicate backups to tape for off-site, OST b

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup SAN Media Server

2010-01-13 Thread Wayne T Smith
I know this has been an NBU SAN whatever discussion, but ... Wow ... backing up a TSM system with NBU. I hope you do a lot of testing. TSM does a lot of stuff in the background. I'd make sure TSM is shutdown, not just the data volumes and your backup includes everything that is TSM, especially t

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Success Rate

2010-01-12 Thread Wayne T Smith
Hi Brian, Because we backup machines that will be unavailable for periods of time, the % isn't very interesting for us. Items I find interesting: - On Monday morning, what servers have not had a successful full backup over the weekend (I want a reason for every client failing backups) -

Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Database Restore Problem

2009-12-22 Thread Wayne T Smith
Do your Oracle DB restore from Oracle (RMAN), not NetBackup. Cheers, Wayne ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle restore question

2009-11-17 Thread Wayne T Smith
Hi Susan, I'll offer that the suggestions were for your NetBackup administrator and are settings on your media server(s), not anything your Oracle admins can change. Also, the settings apply to all restores/mounts, not just Oracle DB restores. Cheers, Wayne __

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exchange Agent

2009-07-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
Hi Mark, I have 2 much smaller Exchange servers (120GB & 200GB) and use the NBU Exchange agent (still v5.1 for the moment). I find the agent does as well pushing data as a small-file-count file system backup (i.e., very well!), with differential incrementals being a bit slower ... maybe half-s

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up multiple Oracle db's from a single host

2009-05-01 Thread Wayne T Smith
One NBU policy per DB works best for us. You don't necessarily have to have multiple scripts, as long as your script "knows" what DB to backup and what policy/schedule to use. Having separate policies makes scheduling changes and reruns easier. It allows us to see exactly which DB is being ba

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Oracle Script for Window Systems

2009-04-24 Thread Wayne T Smith
Oracle export (or Data Pump in newer versions of Oracle) may give you the protection you need. * Have your DBA evaluate the export(s) done and test restores. Tests may include loss of o an Oracle row of data o an Oracle table o an Oracle tablespace

Re: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data domain to tape w/netbackup 6.5

2009-03-12 Thread Wayne T Smith
comments (2) within... Hickman, Tony wrote, in part, on 2009-03-09 10:26 AM: > > This is the first time for me using this mailing list. This list was > recommended to me by someone and here I am. Welcome! > > Here is my current dilemma: > We went to using a Data Domain device along with N

Re: [Veritas-bu] Experiences with Netapp backups

2009-02-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
We have a few NetApp filers with FC, iSCSI and NFS storage. We don't do NDMP, but that's because of license costs and ignorance, I suppose. Our backups have been host-based with traditional NetBackup file system and agents. Recently, we've increased backups with NetApp snapshot (with a mirror,

Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN backup status

2009-01-16 Thread Wayne T Smith
My 2 cents ... The master server view of an Oracle Agent backup is just part of the story. * Your script/template can fail to perform one of its functions and not even try to backup something critical. From the Master, the backup looks perfect. As a minimum, you must have and

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Enterprise Edition 6.5 compatibility

2008-05-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
Thanks for the experiences, Ed! What level of NetBackup client are you running on the NT machines? (I'm not having a problem, but will be moving to 6.5.1 or 6.5.2, from 5.1MP6 ... NT client machines at 4.5MP6) Thanks and cheers, wayne Ed Wilts wrote, in part, on 2008-04-30 6:06 PM: > On Wed,

Re: [Veritas-bu] Quarterly Backups and Calendar Schedule

2008-03-29 Thread Wayne T Smith
I disagree (never good to disagree with Ed ... he's always right ... here goes anyway)... IMHO, Calendar schedules are superior to Frequency based schedules in this case. First, NetBackup can do last Friday of the month, but not quarter. If you use NetBackup scheduling, you need to decide whe

Re: [Veritas-bu] Can a Single NetBackup Client talk to Multiple Master?Media?

2008-03-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
No solution should be based on a single full backup tape that is rewritten each week! First problem: if a full backup fails, you have no backup. Second problem: if your full backup overwrites the first, you have just invalidated (in any logical sense, while probably not NetBackup sense) any

Re: [Veritas-bu] Weird error 54/41

2008-02-12 Thread Wayne T Smith
Hi Marianne, If you do a little client logging, I think you'll see the cause. The last time this happened to me, I forgot to set "vnetd" on the backup server "client attributes". Scheduled fs backups worked fine ... the DB agent backups would do just what you have shown us. (The logging showed

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Strategy

2008-01-03 Thread Wayne T Smith
Sure! Investigate backing up to a disk appliance. There are a number of vendors ... Data Domain might be a good place to start, as they have much of the market. Since you do nightly full backups, they'll love you and you'll be impressed at what you can squeeze onto their disk (will vary with

Re: [Veritas-bu] Suspended tape volumes

2007-12-04 Thread Wayne T Smith
A couple of possibilities? * Vault will suspend on eject (5.1 and above) * The process of making a new synthetic full backup will (temporarily) suspend tapes. cheers, wayne Deiter, Scott wrote, in part, on 2007-12-04 1:07 PM: > > We are getting many tape volumes suspended that are not filled

[Veritas-bu] SnapVault for NetBackup

2007-12-04 Thread Wayne T Smith
Symantec/NetApp are pitching "SnapVault for NetBackup" (a NetBackup 6.0 option ... I'm interested in the 6.5 incarnation, if that matters) as part of my new and improved D2D2D backup and recovery strategy. I've had the marketing pitch and fear I have the glazed eyes of a deer looking into head

Re: [Veritas-bu] Report Client version

2007-12-03 Thread Wayne T Smith
There was a good discussion of this 6 months or a year ago on this list (search the archives). With some versions and some platforms, one can use "bpgp" to find the NetBackup client or agent version. For example, many versions of Netbackup might use a default "/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/version"

Re: [Veritas-bu] Newbie netbackup request

2007-11-23 Thread Wayne T Smith
My guess is "backup_exit_notify". cheers, wayne habscout wrote, in part: > I'm assisting a Netbackup administrator, and we have an output file that > appears to be generated from Netbackup but we cannot tell which command is > doing it. The Netbackup version is 5.0 and this is running on a Sol

Re: [Veritas-bu] Timechange problem with NBU or something else?

2007-11-06 Thread Wayne T Smith
Yes, I had a similar problem with 5.1. I use calendar schedules and "fulls" had been completed Saturday. There were two types of NetBackup schedule failure that I found. * Incrementals that finished during 1-2 am then ran a full (there was a catch-up window, but none should have run because th

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU Vaulting: Status 50

2007-10-12 Thread Wayne T Smith
I get a few of these (v5.1MP6), mostly during high-load situations. Inevitably, the status 50 Duplicate job has this in (the middle of) its log: Warning bpduplicate ... failure logging message to client ... in log ...: can't connect to client (58) cheers, wayne dy018 wrote, in part,

Re: [Veritas-bu] Tapeless backup environments?

2007-09-21 Thread Wayne T Smith
Yes, we are in the middle of this (trying to replace D2T2T with D2D2D) process now. What I am seeing is that while disk media costs more than tape per TB, de-duplication is the difference-maker, the enabler, making extra weeks or months retention of D2D data inexpensive. Buy another appliance f

Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle backup started to give statsu 6

2007-09-11 Thread Wayne T Smith
Perhaps ... * Link NetBackup for Oracle in to Oracle (NBU Agent install step). * (Consider) switch to manual controlfile backup with |* RMAN> configure controlfile autobackup off; * RMAN> backup current controlfile; * Put RMAN's and NBU's catalogs in sync with crosscheck. If I were

Re: [Veritas-bu] Exclude List Issue

2007-08-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
Perhaps you have a blank at the end of the folder name? Are you expecting the "all policies" items to be used when a specific policy/schedule entry is available? I'm not saying how it works, just asking ;-) Actually, I'm surprised that the "*\qmgr*" and "temp" entries work as you expect. You

Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question

2007-08-02 Thread Wayne T Smith
Of course! Frequency-based backups don't care about midnight. No joke, if I was recalling my previous post on Calendar-base backups, though. ;-) cheers, wayne Curtis Preston wrote, in part, on 2007-08-02 5:39 PM: > You meant that as a joke, right? Almost all of my windows cross > midnight.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question

2007-08-02 Thread Wayne T Smith
Windows crossing midnight ... kind of like the GhostBusters crossing streams ... not healthy. cheers, wayne dbwallis wrote, in part, on 2007-08-02 5:02 PM: > Greenberg, Katherine (... wrote: > >> It will do it by default, based on the backup that has not run in the >> longest time being run

Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule coordination question

2007-08-02 Thread Wayne T Smith
If the incrementals are in the same policy as your fulls, NetBackup will do what you want automatically. (Caveat: If the time of day of your full and incremental windows vary, or you have an incremental frequency shorter than your window, my statement doesn't apply). This works with either freq

Re: [Veritas-bu] Full Oracle Recovery - NetBackup 6.0 MP4 on Windows - Oracle 8.1.7 on UNIX

2007-08-02 Thread Wayne T Smith
A few points for note or discussion ... * The "shutdown immediate" and "startup mount" (or even "startup nomount") have certain requirements. Depending on what you are trying to test (what you have lost), your test may or may not be successful. * Since you don't have a recovery catalog, RMAN w

Re: [Veritas-bu] Recycle Backup Logs

2007-08-02 Thread Wayne T Smith
The number of days to keep logs is a NetBackup setting. One way to set the number is via the Admin Console ... navigate to NetBackup Management -> Host Properties -> Master Servers, right click on your master and select "Properties", and finally click "Global Attributes". The "Keep

Re: [Veritas-bu] VTL and Tape or SnapVault.

2007-07-27 Thread Wayne T Smith
You might want to look at the new NetApp options in NBU v6.5. NetApp and Symantec seemed to have found a pot of gold in this NetApp data backup area. I recently asked for a quote on a NetApp (backup disk) solution to backup one of our 3050 boxes ... and they came up with a proposal that includ

Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle 8 Backup - NBU6.0 MP4

2007-07-22 Thread Wayne T Smith
I'd add a 4th possibility ... RMAN backup to disk which is then (NBU user) backed up. Agent not required. (I'd much rather have the NBU Agent, but it may be cost prohibitive). I have a couple of Oracle 8 DBs backed up this way. Also, someone (I think in this thread) mentioned you needed an Or

Re: [Veritas-bu] retentions

2007-07-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
I, too, agree the 2-week retention should be addressed ... quite risky. A few thoughts ... I recently tested Aptare StorageConsole and one of its out-of-the-box displays is close what you're looking for, I think. When we obtain a license, I'll be discarding many scripts ... one of which sort

Re: [Veritas-bu] A Better Way?

2007-07-03 Thread Wayne T Smith
Rather than mess with volume labels, why not use one of the fields that "Vault" would have used? Even using the tape description field would be better than messing with the bar code field ... but maybe I don't understand what you're trying to do. cheers, wayne Brooks, Jason wrote, in part, o

Re: [Veritas-bu] Upgrade question

2007-06-28 Thread Wayne T Smith
I have no idea. But I thought I would mention that my plan to upgrade from 5.1->6.0 is to avoid the upgrade. This will be possible in my case because (1) we don't keep long term backups and (2) we're installing a new (Linux) server to replace our aging (Solaris) server. We'll run in parallel

Re: [Veritas-bu] [ORACLE] Backing up the "Control File" ...

2007-06-25 Thread Wayne T Smith
OK, I'll bite. Yes, it is very important to have a control file backup! I recommend you make the RMAN setting for control file auto-backup ("CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP ON;"). Then, your control file is automatically backed up with the DB, and if you lose your control file (or repository

Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN redirect restore

2007-06-25 Thread Wayne T Smith
The (NetBackup v5.1) manual says no: Using RMAN to Perform a Redirected Restore Note The same user name (UNIX account) that was used for the Oracle database backup must be used for the alternate client restore. cheers, wayne Evsyukov, Sergey wrote, in part, on 2007-06-25 4:52 AM: >

Re: [Veritas-bu] 3rd Party Support

2007-06-22 Thread Wayne T Smith
I'm never satisfied with 3rd party support and almost never with direct! For various reasons, we have Sun support of NBU, but expect to change that. When I have a problem, I want to get to the people that will find or write the fix asap. 3rd party almost cannot do that. Also, from time to tim

Re: [Veritas-bu] Looking for command to display NB Oracle Client Version ?

2007-06-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
On at least versions 4.5, 5.0 and 5.1, this gives the platform, version and maintenance pack level for the NetBackup for Oracle Agent. If the same holds true for version 6.0 (I'm not there), your example would mean you have a version 6.0 NetBackup for Oracle Agent that has yet to be upgraded wi

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 (was: Any takers yet?)

2007-06-20 Thread Wayne T Smith
I spoke with a NYC Symantec/NetBackup Systems Engineer yesterday. He said (something close to) once 6.5 is available this Fall, there will be a direct upgrade from 5.1 (or 5.1MP6). cheers, wayne King, Cheryl wrote, in part, on 2007-06-20 12:47 PM: > Why do you say v5.1 MP6 first? Sorry I've

Re: [Veritas-bu] Create a folder restore schedule

2007-06-05 Thread Wayne T Smith
What's a "restore schedule"? ;-) cheers, wayne w9000i wrote, in part: > Hi people, > I'm new at the forum I need to know how to create a restore schedule at the > Netbackup 5.1 > > If some one can put a command examples and how to create this? > _

Re: [Veritas-bu] "Bible" for Storage Administrators

2007-05-22 Thread Wayne T Smith
There is no bible; the topic is too broad and in flux too much for their to be a "bible", IMHO. That written, I like (the four year old) Little & Chapa Wiley publication "Implementing Backup and Recovery: The Readiness Guide for the Enterprise", as well as Preston's new O'Riley publication "Bac

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.0 Tape rotation

2007-05-21 Thread Wayne T Smith
If your tapes start out in the off site group/pool, they will return/stay there once they expire. For example, my "vault tapes" start and stay in a volume pool named "dup". When Vault writes to a tape, the Vault job ejects the tape and moves it from a "volume group" I'll call "home" to a volu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Synthetic Full Backups

2007-05-14 Thread Wayne T Smith
This was some time ago, but I found synthetic backups to be either irrelevant (due to restrictions on their applicability) or unusable (due to the occasional problems that seem to require new full backups) at my shop (v5.1). That, and the last thing that my shop needed were more long tape-to-

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing Query

2007-05-14 Thread Wayne T Smith
and if you have "allow multiple data streams" selected for a policy, you'll probably have more than three jobs (and more than one drive used). (Also, I'm unclear if you have 3 or 9 policies ... this and Ueli's responses are assuming you have no more than one policy for each client). cheers, way

Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle temp files backup up slowly

2007-04-19 Thread Wayne T Smith
If this was Windows, I'd expect the disk is fragmented. What is the nature of the disk space under these files? Same disk or allocation as others or somehow separate? Every writer on this list (that I've noticed) has been emphatic that MPs before MP4 have a myriad of problems. cheers, wayne

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 5.1MP5 to 6.0MP4 problems

2007-04-15 Thread Wayne T Smith
> PS: I'm the kind of guy who doesn't really have time to read a 100 > page installation manual, I'd like to do things fast ! > ... and now, I trust, you are re-evaluating! Fast is good. Fast means reading and understanding, so you do it once, right and best for your business. cheers, wayne

Re: [Veritas-bu] Problem recycling old CATALOG tapes

2007-04-13 Thread Wayne T Smith
You didn't mention which version of NetBackup you are using. At least if you are using v5.1 or older, catalog tapes have a different format than NetBackup data tapes. If you try to write data to a catalog tape, you receive the infamous "it contains VERITAS NetBackup (tm) database backup data

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