Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread Joly MacFie
A fair point is made in the comments in that article, that it isn't worth the patent trolls time and money unless someone deep-pocketed like Apple gets involved, but then they coud well come out of the woodwork. Another comment does, however, note his use of the passive tense to describe this

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread Rupert Howe
In all Job's attacks on Flash, he didn't really talk about the technical limitations of Flash video for animation/interactivity/media synchronization - which is telling, since Apple systematically ignored Quicktime development interactive Quicktime for years - and have basically just

[videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread elbowsofdeath
Jobs cant really say much about VP8 until oogle make an official announcement about it can he? When that time comes, I predict the main argument will be along the lines of lack of VP8 hardware decoding. As for Quicktime,if we care about open standards then thank god Quicktime multimedia

[videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread elbowsofdeath
There is no future-proof perfect answer at this stage. VP8 may be the longterm answer but even if its a roaring success it will take years to reach the promised land. Like it or not, H264 is the answer for at least the next few years, if not longer. With one H.264 file you can cater for most

[videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread elbowsofdeath
Looks like things may be about to turn uglier on this front: http://blogs.fsfe.org/hugo/2010/04/open-letter-to-steve-jobs/ Jobs has apparently replied: 'From: Steve Jobs To: Hugo Roy Subject: Re:Open letter to Steve Jobs: Thoughts on Flash Date 30/04/2010 15:21:17 All video codecs are covered

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread Joly MacFie
Isn't this where we started on this thread? j On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:17 AM, elbowsofdeath st...@dvmachine.com wrote: Looks like things may be about to turn uglier on this front: http://blogs.fsfe.org/hugo/2010/04/open-letter-to-steve-jobs/ Jobs has apparently replied: 'From: Steve Jobs

[videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Online Video Monetization Summit, May 5th in NYC

2010-05-02 Thread daredolls
heck, i'd pay somebody to go for me, or, to be specific, i'd give a piece of any action to one who helps arrange it. i would love to take the easy path, google adsense and youtube, but, as has happened over and over in the history of the small screen, edgy material gets pushed aside and has to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Verdi
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote: Isn't this where we started on this thread? j Yes. - verdi -- Training for a triathlon and raising money for The Leukemia Lymphoma Society. http://training.michaelverdi.com

[videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread elbowsofdeath
Im confused, this subject isnt where the thread started at all, it started with the rumours about Google opening up VP8. Most of the talk about downsides of theora has been to do with quality, hardware decoding, quantity of videos already in H.264. The potential for patent problems with theora

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Verdi
What he was referring to was that a day (and 11 emails ago), Joly noted a quote from the same story you just brought up and we all just had a discussion about it. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote: I also noted Jobs recent statement that Theora is not free of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread Rupert Howe
On 2 May 2010, at 14:28, elbowsofdeath wrote: Jobs cant really say much about VP8 until oogle make an official announcement about it can he? Fair enough, I guess, though it seems a pretty open secret. And they've bought it, right? So it's not irrelevant, and the possibility should

[videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread elbowsofdeath
Ahh right. The difference is that in his original statement Jobs was only making a point about potential theora patent woes, which quite rightly could be dismissed as FUD. But in Jobs later email reply to the open letter, he actually states that there is actually something going on with this,

[videoblogging] looking for a good digital download storefront

2010-05-02 Thread hollowbonefilms
Hi folks, Since many of you have your own websites and such, I thought I would ask you all to see if any of you have a good solution for selling digital downloads? I am looking for a one-time purchase option rather than a monthly fee arrangement. In the past I've used a plain old HTML system

[videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread elbowsofdeath
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote: Fair enough, I guess, though it seems a pretty open secret. And they've bought it, right? So it's not irrelevant, and the possibility should deserve some recognition in a full honest discussion? Yeah but I certainly

[videoblogging] Multimedia

2010-05-02 Thread elbowsofdeath
Just trying to extract the interesting topic of multimedia from the video format discussion. I dont really know whee to start, Ive always been interested in it, although as mentioned previously I get a bit lost when I actually try to flesh out some vague ideas into something more solid and

Re: [videoblogging] Multimedia

2010-05-02 Thread Joly MacFie
Whatever happened to SMIL? :) On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:06 PM, elbowsofdeath st...@dvmachine.com wrote: Just trying to extract the interesting topic of multimedia from the video format discussion. I dont really know whee to start, Ive always been interested in it, although as mentioned

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Online Video Monetization Summit, May 5th in NYC

2010-05-02 Thread David Jones
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:53 AM, daredolls dared...@gmail.com wrote: heck, i'd pay somebody to go for me, or, to be specific, i'd give a piece of any action to one who helps arrange it. i would love to take the easy path, google adsense and youtube, but, as has happened over and over in the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google to open source VP8

2010-05-02 Thread Brook Hinton
By the time h.264 patents are an issue again, there will be another codec that trounces everything we're talking about, and it may or may not be open source. Five years is a very very very long time in this field. We may not even be using web browsers as we know them today, or HTML at all by then,

Re: [videoblogging] Multimedia

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
Adobe started using SMIL a bit a few years ago with their Adobe Media Player. Was good to see it being used in a big project. It usually is behind the scenes on phones (MMS) and some television programming systems. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/mediaplayer/articles/amp_cdk_pt08.html Moving

Re: [videoblogging] Multimedia

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
Might as well just focus on HTML5 and CSS3 and Javascript and cutting edge Web Browsers (Webkit, Gecko). The web page should be considered the viable multimedia canvas of the future. Continued advancements in web browser capabilities will lead to multimedia that we normally see with Flash or