[videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-05 Thread Erin Nealey
Thanks for such a quick response Raymond! UPDATE: My husband talked to Scott Shreer of Freeplay Music (he is much better at remaining calm than I am!) and some good has come out of this. Although we still are having to pay, it is only half. Another good thing that came from it is that Scott w

[videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-05 Thread Gena
Erin I also appreciated your posts about FreePlay. I honestly did not know about this company. One thing I want to pass on to you and others is what I learned at a legal session at BlogHer. There is a web site called Chilling Effects http://www.chillingeffects.org This is a catalog of the ce

[videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I ranted on this on my podcast earlier today (which BTW will NOT have > the open & close I normally attach to each show) and an idea hit me > that if they were to charge a ONE-TIME flat fee $5 (or wh

[videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-08 Thread Jack Nelson
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:01:53 +0200, Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Leave it fuckin' AOL to take something like "Happy Birthday" and > > copyright it for fuckin' profit (Sorry,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:56:13 +0200, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you ever *bought* music, and by bought, I mean bought the full > rights to any music to do as you please? Most times you are licensing > it. CD's you buy at the store? You don't own those, you don't have the >

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread Markus Sandy
where does it end? will i eventually have to pay every time i remember a song? generally the only things i have to pay for repeatedly are my mistakes ;-) hmmm, maybe that means the buying commercial music is a mistake, hmmm yesterday, I was unpacking some boxes and I ran into a classic CD

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread duncan speakman
>  yesterday, I was unpacking some boxes and I ran into a classic CD. >  I thought "Hey! I'd like to listen to this." >  Then it hit me:  Why bother? >  The same amount of time would be better spent finding something new on the > archive. then i guess it wasn;t such a classic CD!! i know wha

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
Lessig recently cited an experiment, i think in Wired mag, on how they tried to legally publish on the net he and friends singing 'Happy Birthday' to another friend.  Quick conclusion- it cost almost $1,000 *if* they were granted permission... which they were at first but then they were denied t

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)
Hi everyone: At 10:42 AM 8/6/2005, you wrote: Lessig recently cited an experiment, i think in Wired mag, on how they tried to legally publish on the net he and friends singing 'Happy Birthday' to another friend. Quick conclusion- it cost almost $1,000 *if* they were granted permission... which

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 04:06:42 +0200, Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah no sh*t.  Who in the world has copyright over that title.  :-( AOL/Time Warner does: http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.htm > It's big bucks: "According to David Sengstack, president of S

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-06 Thread Joshua Kinberg
>  happy birthday fuck you! >  Yeah no sh*t.  Who in the world has copyright over that title.  :-( Here's the story of the happy birthday song: http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.htm Apparently it now brings in about 2 Million in annual royalties which are split between AOL Time/Warne

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-07 Thread Stephanie Bryant
Yes, but if you sing a variant on Happy Birthday-- ANY variant-- in which you change the lyrics (except for celebrant's name) and/or tune, then you have a good fight available. Why? Because "Good Morning to You," which is a nearly identical tune to Happy Birthday, is public domain (it is, in f

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-07 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)
Hi everyone: At 08:29 PM 8/6/2005, you wrote: > happy birthday fuck you! > Yeah no sh*t. Who in the world has copyright over that title. :-( Here's the story of the happy birthday song: http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.htm Apparently it now brings in about 2 Million in annual roy

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-07 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:01:53 +0200, Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Leave it fuckin' AOL to take something like "Happy Birthday" and > copyright it for fuckin' profit (Sorry, I don't buy the so-called > "private charity" bullshit).  :-(  :-(  :-( Would you relax. AOL d

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-07 Thread Stephanie Bryant
To be fair, AOL didn't copyright it-- the original "authors"* owned the copyright, which was eventually sold to Warner Bros. (I think). It's conglomeratization that puts the property into the hands of AOL-Time-Warner. *not really sure how changing one word and doubling a note in each line qual

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:07:20 +0200, Jack Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: > Good Morning to All was written in 1893. In 1935 the Hill sisters sued  > for copyright (42 > years after the fact and it is not even clear that they wrote the new  > words to the song > (Happy Birthday to You). T

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-08 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Andreas Haugstrup wrote: > > What's the  > incentive for creating works if you can't make money the one time in your  > life you create something really good? What a question! The incentive for truly creative people to create things is that they can't *not* create things! I create things

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-08 Thread Clint Sharp
Pete Prodoehl wrote: > > What a question! The incentive for truly creative people to create > things is that they can't *not* create things! > > I create things because I enjoy creating things. It connects me with > others. I get a good sense of satisfaction from the things I create. I > can a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-08 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Clint Sharp wrote: > Pete Prodoehl wrote: >  >>What a question! The incentive for truly creative people to create >>things is that they can't *not* create things! >> >>I create things because I enjoy creating things. It connects me with >>others. I get a good sense of satisfaction from the thi

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-08 Thread duncan speakman
yes.. copyright can be a great and useful thing.. but..  What's the  incentive for creating works if you can't make money erm.. how much time have you got?  so historically nobody felt like being creative in the world until society decided to give them money for it? i don;t want to sound li

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

2005-08-08 Thread Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)
At 11:59 AM 8/8/2005, Clint Sharp wrote: Pete Prodoehl wrote: > > What a question! The incentive for truly creative people to create > things is that they can't *not* create things! Exactly Pete.  And it the beauty is it *doesn't* have *anything whatsoever* to do with $$$. > I create things bec