Sounds like we need a do not vlog list like we have for our home
telephones...
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Anne Walk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Josh.
While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com, I've
found tons
of vlogs listed in a
Have you had your videos removed out of there yet or are you claiming
them and leaving them there?
david
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like we need a do not vlog list like we have for our home
telephones...
While I think that is a very good idea and appears to now be needed,
do you honestly think that would have changed matters with the Veoh
fiasco?
David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder... maybe Andreas can
Well, I didnt offer the thought as a what if? for Veoh... And I cannot speak for Veoh decisions.I could speculate... but their is enough of that going around already ;-)sull
On 4/10/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While I think that is a very good idea and appears to now be needed,do
Damn you. Amuse me with some speculation! I'm stuck at work and it's
sunny and 74 outside. That's like the middle of freakin summer here in
Minnesota!
David
http;//www.davidhowellstudios.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I didnt offer the
I completely agree with Andreas.
Sure, it's a change but not a derivative. Each time you compress a video it's
changed
but this is not what is meant by derivative. An example of a derivative would
be a mashup.
In fact in the license states that you allow the licensee to modifiy the work
into
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Peter Van Dijck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm throwing this out for
comments here.
Here's one I personally could live with: this kind of re-hosting
should be opt-in.
That would mean that:
1) They remove ALL
Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes copyright from
the instant it is created regardless whether or not you have actually
gone and registered it.
Regardless, everyone should be putting a © somewhere on their sites no
matter what the case.
David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
Did you read what I wrote?
Under US Copyright law you cannot sue for statutory damages unless you've
registered your work. You can still sue for actual damages. I never
claimed that you have to register your work to obtain copyrights (those
are automatic for anyone living in a country that
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes copyright from
the instant it is created regardless whether or not you have actually
gone and registered it.
Andreas was talking about monetary damages - I think
actually you are wrong and andreas is quite correct about this
specifically the *statutory* damages part
his point is that without registration, you don't get that so easy (or
at all)
David Howell wrote:
Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes "copyright" from
the instant it
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:23:24 +0200, Markus Sandy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
actually you are wrong and andreas is quite correct about this
specifically the *statutory* damages part
his point is that without registration, you don't get that so easy (or
at all)
US legislation is pretty stupid
Ok. We have asked to have our feeds removed from Veoh. Our new video was picked up this morning.I did notice, however, that they have stopped the ourmedia and blip feeds. Smart thinking as ripping off the content of other video hosting services will lead to major lawsuits (easily winnable ones
My bad. However you can register your work any time before filing a
lawsuit. If you dont register your work within 3 months, then you can
sue for...
(1) an injunction against further infringement; (2) the recovery of
profits from the infringer; and (3) other provable damages.
So, that said, you
Lordy lordy. Here I was all high and mighty thinking they didnt have
any of my videos and I just found one there.
Guess what..
The video is less than 3 months old. I am within the limit to register
the video.
Guess who's heading down Monday to register this work? Guess who is
going to be hit
This is exactly what I asked of Dmitry when I spoke with him on the
phone yesterday. I told him that I felt his best move was to
immediately remove all of this content and start from a clean, opt-in
only slate. I also asked him to remove all blip video from Veoh.
Apparently he misunderstood,
My videos from the blip.tv feed are still up on veoh -- and they don't
appear to be associated to my blip.tv blog. Here's an example:
http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e35579feature=1numResults=20query=dabble
http://tinyurl.com/s2wqk
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
This is just unacceptable.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My videos from the blip.tv feed are still up on veoh -- and they don't
appear to be associated to my blip.tv blog. Here's an example:
fyi, I've been in touch with Ted at Veoh (he contacted me) and has
removed my feeds from thier network.
It still shows up in searches, but anyone trying to see the media gets
a message indicating that it is not available.
I am not sure if this is becuase things have to be done manually, or
that
How hard is it to delete stuff? Comon!My videos are on there. I haven't claimed my feed and I'm not going to. I'm also not going to ask that they remove them because I shouldn't have to. I'm waiting for them to align their actions with their words.
How long will it take?What really makes this
I really hope they dont remove my videos. I've now found 3 there that
I have never given my permission for them to show.
I am going to be talking to a lawyer Monday and registering the 3
videos that I've found so far with the US Copyright Office.
David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
--- In
On 4/8/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How hard is it to delete stuff? Comon!
My videos are on there. I haven't claimed my feed and I'm not going to. I'm
also not going to ask that they remove them because I shouldn't have to. I'm
waiting for them to align their actions with their
On Apr 8, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote:
(and who's going to pay $20 to register each vlog entry?)
I know that this applies for photos -- so it most likely also applies
to video -- but you do have the option for group registration if
you have several works that are all part of
Yup, I claimed mine to my Veoh account.
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I looked at the watch tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of vlogger's
videos
(including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on the page. Markus didnt know
anything about it, and I
Yeah this addresses the atribution issue, what about the commercial
clauses? Is Veoh violating the non-commercial clause in peoples CC
licenses? Is Veoh a commercial entity? It would see so.
Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL
Yeah what I said ... ;)
Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It isn't as simple as adding a link back. Most people use some
version of
the non-commercial cc license. If that's the case they shouldn't
be
Since the media's delivery method is a feed, would it be required to have the license information in the feed?On 4/7/06, Bill Streeter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah this addresses the atribution issue, what about the commercial
clauses? Is Veoh violating the non-commercial clause in peoples
I agree... why should I be forced to become a member and claim my feed
by entering code into my RSS feed. I ALREADY have to do so much to
make sure my RSS feed caters to iTunes...
I personally prefer sites like MeFeedia who download the original .mov
file to their service. When people change my
For the record, Mefeedia only downloads the media to make thumbs. The media permalink points to where ever it was when the feed was spidered.On 4/7/06, Casey McKinnon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree... why should I be forced to become a member and claim my feed
by entering code into my RSS
As a suggestion, I reccomend that anyone using FeedBurner for their
feeds take advantage of the FeedFlare feature to add a 'View CC
license' to each post. You can do it for every post iten on
your site (by adding some code to your temaplte, or have it added to
your feed (with no extra steps on
Exactly what I mean... MeFeedia takes the producers into account by
not stealing stats and providing a link back to the original post.
Go MeFeedia!
Casey
http://www.kitkast.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the record, Mefeedia only downloads the
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
The problem with that is that there is NO requirement for
machines/software
to understand or obey the license.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
So OK, it's not the responsibility of
There is a huge and distinct line between My user did X and We
created a systematic way of doing X -- I can live with the former, but
I'm EXTRODINARILY unhappy about the latter.
Charles Hope wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey guys,
I just got off the phone with Dmitri Shapiro, the CEO of Veoh. I
tracked him down (thanks to a few great people) to discuss this
situation because it seems like much of the video Veoh has been
collecting comes from blip.tv -- and a lot of our users have asked us
to do something about
Thanks, Mike. I'm sure we're all waiting to get this dealt with.
mikehudack wrote:
Hey guys,
I just got off the phone with Dmitri Shapiro, the CEO of Veoh. I
tracked him down (thanks to a few great people) to discuss this
situation because it seems like much of the video Veoh has been
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephanie Bryant wrote:
Actually, they're outright infringing on my husband's videoblog.
I empathize, and I appreciate that you wrote them directly, but how is
all this different from the way netculture has
I remember commenting here, months back, when I first signed up
to VEOH, that someone seemed to have subdcribed them to bliptv's new videos feed
nobody paid any attention..
Hey guys,
I just got off the phone with Dmitri Shapiro, the CEO of Veoh. I
tracked him down (thanks to a few great
I'm sorry I missed that. As it happens, I don't think anyone
subscribed them to it. They subscribed themselves. That's what they
mean by unclaimed RSS - no one submitted it, they're just pulling in
the videos and pretending they're their own.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup
I agree with this whole thread... I find the Veoh service very
troubling and first noticed their revamped site around SXSW. They
are basically seeding their community with other people's content to
make it seem like an active place. They make it seem as though all
these people (many vloggers) are
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