Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-13 Thread Rachel Knight
Yes, I agree with the comment at the bottom.  Also, sex sells isn't just about pretty women in adverts.  They use pretty men as well.  Think about ads for colognes and aftershaves - very pretty men with nice bodies, blatant sexism, whole ad is very touchy feely, music.  That is not selling the pr

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-13 Thread Rachel Knight
In response to the comment at the bottom, and I know that this will offend a lot of people.  Golf is so dull.  The guy wants a pretty girl to help advertise it?  Good luck.  A flock of playboy bunnies can't help to make golf sexy.  Come on, it's dull.  My sincerest apologies for any offence cause

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-13 Thread Rachel Knight
Markus, I disagree.  "We was just having ourselves a little fun with that boy" is the end of racism that tends to descend into violence.  And I know that still happens, we still get riots in Britain in areas where there are large asian populations.  I can understand Paul, in the sense that some f

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-11 Thread Anne Walk
Perhaps we should encourage more white males to video blog. They seem to take to it more readily, so our evangelism will be more productive if we focus on the demographic that will respond to outreach.oh charles. i find your comments so irritating. :Pwell, i posted about this fiasco on loadedp

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-11 Thread Adam Quirk
Right.On 5/11/06, Charles HOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: those who inevitably would like to vlog and have a need to learn... will find a way to the vlogosphere.  i'm not big on convincing people.  its a match or it aint.  nothing to worry about. Thank

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-11 Thread Charles HOPE
Michael Sullivan wrote: those who inevitably would like to vlog and have a need to learn... will find a way to the vlogosphere.  i'm not big on convincing people.  its a match or it aint.  nothing to worry about. Thank you for a bit of sanity.  I don't like all the handwringing and guil

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Sullivan
Perhaps, it is simply a situation that there are more white men than any other demographic who have the luxury of working at an office job that permits them to spend countless hours searching the net. i'm one of those white male office workers and good point! (though i cant say it is a luxury ;-

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-11 Thread Josh Wolf
Only if we know that it is "our outreach" which prompted them to  videoblog in the first place. Perhaps, it is simply a situation that  there are more white men than any other demographic who have the  luxury of working at an office job that permits them to spend  countless hours searching t

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-11 Thread Charles HOPE
Josh Wolf wrote: Instead, I think we have much more to gain by looking at why so many vloggers are white-male and what we can do to encourage and support people outside of this demographic to get involved. Perhaps we should encourage more white males to video blog. They seem to tak

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-11 Thread Josh Wolf
As usual, I'm a day late and a buck short... I don't see the effectiveness of saying things like "too many white  men involved in videoblogging," or when Brittany asked us to respond  with a video but dropped the disclaimer, "I'll probably get a bunch  of white men to respond," as if the opi

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On 5/11/06, Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Men are very base creatures at the best of times and there is no way to control them, and every so often men make comments on Breasts etc, you never hear a woman doing a Knob joke, now do you?  YOU never hear them, but that doesn't mean they don

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Jay dedman
>  You should cringe. You would certainly cringe if someone said there too many Jews in videoblogging. Why is it so controversial to get past the bashing of all groups? All groups. All of them. >Not just the ones to which the speaker belongs, but all of them. point taken. jay -- Adventures

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Jay dedman
>   well thats me destroyed, hope you are all happy.  What a shame, I was looking forward to >meeting the nice people in this group at vloggercon, now I am dreading coming. email is not good for these conversations. Ryanne is posting a video we just made. arguing is fun. jay -- Adventures i

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Knight
ple are "laughing with me, not at me," which they never bothered to notice that I wasn't laughing.-- BevBlog:  http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal:  http://funnytheworld.com- Original Message -From: Paul KnightTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 10, 200

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Charles HOPE
Jay dedman wrote: I just wanted to say my piece about this sillyness, I didn't want to get into a debate, but Men having >the same standards as women, come on Jay, when is that gonna happen? I hear you... I also cringe when Ryanne goes off about too many white men involve

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Jay dedman
> I just wanted to say my piece about this sillyness, I didn't want to get into a debate, but Men having >the same standards as women, come on Jay, when is that gonna happen? I hear you... I also cringe when Ryanne goes off about too many white men involved in videoblogging. i feel i got to be

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Markus Sandy
making sense of 1/3rd of your words would  be  a lofty goal paul you said (as you often do) "I just wanted to say my piece about this sillyness, I didn't want to get into a debate" and i say that this is the wrong place for that expectation Paul Knight wrote: What the hell are yo

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Knight
What the hell are you going on about Sandy?When you make sense, I will respect you.  Do you read the whole thing and understand every third word or what?On 11 May 2006, at 00:49, Markus Sandy wrote: this is a discussion group, not just a place to make proclamations too bad if you don't like the

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Markus Sandy
you missed the point as usual Paul.  i'll try again: your rhetoric and logic is similar to that of racists it is also just as wrong Paul Knight wrote: Markus,  You are so wrong. 1.  Brutal racism of that nature is different from me saying that, women don't make Knob jokes.

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Markus Sandy
this is a discussion group, not just a place to make proclamations too bad if you don't like the debate aspect Paul Knight wrote: Jay, I just wanted to say my piece about this sillyness, I didn't want to get into a debate, but Men having the same standards as women, come on Jay,

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Knight
Markus,  You are so wrong.1.  Brutal racism of that nature is different from me saying that, women don't make Knob jokes.2.  I am not racist, I have many indian and west indian friends and go round their houses regularly for food mostly and the occasional piss up.  (I was born in the inner city o

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Brad Webb
Charles HOPE wrote: > > > Brad Webb wrote: > >>Charles HOPE wrote: >> >>  >> >>>Paul Knight wrote: >>> >>>    >>> Men are very base creatures at the best of times and there is no way to control them, and every so often men make comments on Breasts etc, you never hear a woman doi

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Charles HOPE
Brad Webb wrote: Charles HOPE wrote: Paul Knight wrote: Men are very base creatures at the best of times and there is no way to control them, and every so often men make comments on Breasts etc, you never hear a woman doing a Knob joke, now do you? That is

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Knight
Jay,I just wanted to say my piece about this sillyness, I didn't want to get into a debate, but Men having the same standards as women, come on Jay, when is that gonna happen?PaulOn 11 May 2006, at 00:22, Jay dedman wrote: > I am tired of women saying that men are sexist, when quite obviously the

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Markus Sandy
Paul,  this sounds exactly like those racists who said "we was just having ourselves a little fun with that boy" Paul Knight wrote: I am tired of women saying that men are sexist, when quite obviously they are not, they are just having a laugh, maybe more feminists like you shoul

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Brad Webb
Charles HOPE wrote: > Paul Knight wrote: > >> >> Men are very base creatures at the best of times and there is no way >> to control them, and every so often men make comments on Breasts etc, >> you never hear a woman doing a Knob joke, now do you?  That is one of >> the many reasons why wome

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Jay dedman
> I am tired of women saying that men are sexist, when quite obviously they are not, they are just >having a laugh, maybe more feminists like you should go out and get a sense of humor, maybe. > > Men are very base creatures at the best of times and there is no way to control them, and every >so

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Charles HOPE
Paul Knight wrote: Men are very base creatures at the best of times and there is no way to control them, and every so often men make comments on Breasts etc, you never hear a woman doing a Knob joke, now do you?  That is one of the many reasons why women are better than men, but please, yo

Re: [videoblogging] Sick of the sexism/looking for a ........

2006-05-10 Thread Paul Knight
Dear "Distraught enough to make a video" Brittany,Apart from the fact that you completely misread the list as is the case with most Americans, you then push upon us a half loading video that just has you choosing the worst language I have ever heard, have you not had the training where no one lis