Hi-
You cannot off-air record and retain indefinitely. Contact the talk show and
purchase it if they are selling it. That way it can be added to the collection
legitimately or retained in archives. Perhaps they would even sell you a
digital copy. Hopefully they will sell it cheaply. Or tell
Yeah...this is true, but we're really talking mostly here about cases in
which a legit vendor is selling via amazon marketplace: i.e., cases in
which fulfillment is by the distributor rather than amazon. Those are the
cases in which the tiered pricing stuff usually occurs.
Gary
> Jessica make
Jessica makes an important point. Since the provenance of the copy (even
if it's new and sealed) is unknown when you sell from a Marketplace seller
on Amazon (did they get it from the distributor or from the back of a
truck that crashed in their neighborhood?) you can't be sure it's a
"legally acq
for fantastic planet try peter marai
i don't think milos (facets) licensed it but peter did when peter and milos
were working together
or peter had something to do with it anyway
peter is probably still at pma...@aol.com, otherwise he is somehow now
connected with the 'new' new yorker
On Thu,
In amazon marketplace, the order is fulfilled by a third-party vendor
(i.e. the distributor of the film) not by amazon directly. So, when the
order hits, the distributor rejects it if they're charging institutional
prices and you're trying to buy it cheap.
> I know they have been actively goind
I know they have been actively goind after some educational titles. I just
don't see how you control this on Amazon or any secondary seller.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:13 PM, wrote:
> Yeah...interestingly we've had a few orders bounced back from amazon as
> requiring institutional prices...these a
Yeah...interestingly we've had a few orders bounced back from amazon as
requiring institutional prices...these are generally titles that amazon is
brokering via amazon marketplace, rather than stuff sold by amazon itself.
gary handman
> Hi all,
>
> Just spotted tiered pricing on these DVDs at am
Nope
The instructor can off-air tape and use in class (Kastenmeier is stupidly
restrictive...45 days, I think, but remember, these are guidelines, not
law)...but keeping the thing around for the long-haul (in a library
collection, say) is probably skating on thin ice.
gary handman
> Hi all,
>
OK I am totally confused. Did the original seller/owner sell home use copies
and was this one supposedly "used". The question would be
if the seller had literally signed off ( as in the proverbial I agree to
these terms) when they bought it, in that case the original company could
take action again
I don't think I was clear in my use of the word aftermarket. It's NOT the
original film distributor selling copies through amazon, and it's not Amazon
selling. It's 'used' dealers selling through amazon. I didn't check in this
specific case, but just like with 'used' dealers of books selling thr
It is just a short portion, so I'd just record it and then make sure that you
add some sort of stipulation that if it is going to be used outside of teaching
or for limited groups (not put up on the web or available to be further
distributed), that a librarian or copyright expert should be consu
Per course is not the way it is being touted now. It's any number of
profs/courses for the time period. Or so it was explained to me.
Susan
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I don't disagree, but the problem is that two types of films or distribution
of films has gotten confused because some sellers chose to again
have their cake and eat it too. There are many companies whose product is
geared exclusively to the academic market and frankly it is going to cost a
lot mo
P.S I am going to email some of these posts to my guy who still thinks
institutions should pay more even if all his titles are on Amazon, Midwest
tape etc. Again he really means well but someone told him it was so.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
> Well that is whole other k
*Begin Soapbox*
Personally, I think some filmmakers/producers need Business 101,
Marketing 101, and Economics 101 if they want to make a living. This is
the simplest issue of supply and demand...they don't even have to go to
college, they can go to WalMart, or Target, or Sears, or any store out
Swank has been doing some consortial stuff which brings the price down.
Waldo is one and BLC is looking it as well. Still not as cheap as one
might like but it's very helpful for supporting distance learning.
Jo Ann
Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut
Homer Babb
Well that is whole other kettle of fish. Overseas owners can get sensitive
about that.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, wrote:
> I had a similar email about a year ago from a filmmaker from New Zealand.
> I can no longer recall the filmmaker or the DVD. She did not "insist" that
> we pay the ed
Hi all,
Just spotted tiered pricing on these DVDs at amazon.com:
What Price Clean Air
Chuck Close: A Portrait in Progress
David Weissman's Short Stuff
Little Moth (Xue Chan)
Nelson Mandela: Free at Last
Taoism
and a few others (search on "Institutional Use". So a vendor can put
in multipl
Hi all,
I've had a request from an administrator to record a short portion of a two
hour national morning talk show. Our university participated in a study that is
going to be reported on during a 10 minute segment of the show. The
administrator doesn't have a specific use in mind for it, she j
Yikes. Last i checked DANTON was not available but you could always ask
GAUMONT in France. or Criterion which released All Quiet IS Swank. I think
TO LIVE & BLACK RAIN are one where rights are overseas. Dang nothing to
simple on that list.
Too bad the guy was not teaching something someone on the
I had a similar email about a year ago from a filmmaker from New Zealand.
I can no longer recall the filmmaker or the DVD. She did not "insist"
that we pay the educational price but she emailed to say that she saw the
title in our online catalog and she was at least curious where we
purchased
...and ya gotta keep firmly in mind that Swank licenses for access by
specific courses for a specified amount of time. I may be a voice
shrek-ing in the wildness, but I simply can't support that kind of
circumscribed/limited access by the library (at least my library).
gary
> Prohibitively expe
Danton with Gerard Depardeau; All Quiet on the Western Front (1930); Black Rain
(Kuroi ame) ; and To Live (Hou zhe); and a part of the Genius that was China
from WGBH.
regars
jhs
>>> Jessica Rosner 5/5/2011 1:16 PM >>>
Well give us the titles. If they are not Swank they may be cheaper.
On T
Janice,
I think any distributors reading this string got/are getting a good education.
The National Media Market is currently working on the professional development
sessions for the next conference. Copyright issues may be included. I'll
recommend that pricing be included in the agenda if the
For the record, we got this email too and our legal counsel
recommended saying simply that we purchased our copy legally and we
abide by the copyright law. His initial reaction was to recommend
ignoring it altogether.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Deg Farrelly wrote:
> Sharing with the Videolib
Well give us the titles. If they are not Swank they may be cheaper.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:09 PM, John Streepy wrote:
> Prohibitively expensive is just like saying impossible on my campus. I
> just searched Swank's website and they did not have any of the titles.
> Thanks for the back up.
Prohibitively expensive is just like saying impossible on my campus. I just
searched Swank's website and they did not have any of the titles. Thanks for
the back up. Coming up on ten years doing this work and I am now starting to
think of myself as moderately knowledgeable.
regards
jhs
J
Susan
The seller can either control it completely in which case there is no
aftermarket or they choose to allow secondary sellers in which case they not
maintain the tiered pricing. Most of the folks I work with are currently
only selling to institutions. The soonest they would even think of a reta
right on!
gary
> Hello all,
> I am 99.9% positive I gave a faculty member the correct response to his
> request but I thought I would verify with the CW of this august body.
>
> The professor is teaching an entirely online course and wants to stream a
> few full length feature films for the stud
I agree with Jessica. Did you give the professor the correct information? Yes
and no, I'd say. Swank now has a catalog of >7,000 feature films for which
they have streaming rights (for academic use and via course management
systems). The cost varies depending on number you're signing on for
Jessica said:
One last thing. I have mentioned this before but for whatever it is worth there
are a lot of filmmakers and distributors who sincerely believe there is
something called "institutional video" and that schools and libraries must pay
more than individuals. I actually have one I am de
Gary,
Thanks for speaking on behalf of us librarians.
I wish there were a way to educate filmmakers and film distributors
about not only the legalities, but also the realities, of pricing for
the library market.
It's simple accounting: libraries can make more films accessible to
their patr
Depending on the film obtaining streaming rights should not be impossible
though it could be prohibitively expensive. It really depends on the
titles.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Streepy wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am 99.9% positive I gave a faculty member the correct response to his
> r
Hello all,
I am 99.9% positive I gave a faculty member the correct response to his request
but I thought I would verify with the CW of this august body.
The professor is teaching an entirely online course and wants to stream a few
full length feature films for the students. These films woul
I'm curious about how he knows what anyone paid for their copy if they didn't
buy it from him.
Matt
Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904
mattb...@virginia.edu | 434-924-3812
-Original Message-
I haven’t received this, but perhaps he is only addressing the
college/university market. We purchased our copy from Midwest, also.
Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
Phone: 630-264-4100
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurora.lib.i
One last thing. I have mentioned this before but for whatever it is worth
there are a lot of filmmakers and distributors who sincerely believe there
is something called "institutional video" and that schools and libraries
must pay more than individuals. I actually have one I am dealing with myself
And, at the risk of being Mrs. Obvious: "Never go against a Sicilian when death
is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha..."
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes)
-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergma
Sorry, I typed too soon; I'm really glad this listserv exists:)
Mary Hanlin
Media Collection Development Librarian
Tidewater Community College
120 Campus Drive,
Portsmouth, Virginia 23701
P: 757-822-2133
F: 757-822-2149
mhan...@tcc.edu
-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berk
I just got that email as well. (We purchased from a vendor that only sells to
libraries.) I am very interested in hearing how others are handling this.
Mary Hanlin
Media Collection Development Librarian
Tidewater Community College
120 Campus Drive,
Portsmouth, Virginia 23701
P: 757-822-2133
F: 7
Just got a response back from him regarding my reply… Gee, maybe if you're just
concerned about PPR, you should have said that instead of trying to threaten us.
"Thank you for your reply. Of course that is fine if not being used for
public performance. It's often the case that campuses u
Roy...you've pissed off a big community of video librarians and others by
sending this out, I'm afraid to say. Wish you had done a bit of
investigation and thinking before hitting the send key.
Most everyone in this business is very aware of the need to secure
performance rights for screening out
Um I am confused. Did all of you get a note from owner?
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:51 PM, wrote:
> Hey deg
>
> Here's what I wrote back to this guy (with a copy to UC legal
> counsel)...I'm pissed off!
>
> Dear Film Distributor
>
> The title in question was bought from a valid home video distribut
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you decide to sell a film retail
on Amazon you can't insist on an institution paying a higher price for
standard face to face use.
You can do that if you are exclusive seller of the film and make it clear at
the point of purchase like the standard ( I hav
Hey deg
Here's what I wrote back to this guy (with a copy to UC legal
counsel)...I'm pissed off!
Dear Film Distributor
The title in question was bought from a valid home video distribution
source and is perfectly legal under both contract and copyright law.
Since we do not require public perform
Anybody else receive this?
Apparently someone hasn’t read section 110 of the copyright code.
I checked our records – we purchased through Midwest Tape, so wasn’t exactly a
shady deal…
Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State
University, Mankato | (507) 389-
Sharing with the Videolib list an email from a video distributor, and my
internal response to the Collection Development office for use in replying to
the original message. (Snipped to remove some elements that are
institutionally specific)
That said, the author of this email is incorrect i
Fantastic Planet might be at Facets
Steven Milewski
Digital Media Technologies Librarian
Hodges Library
Integrated User Services
865 - 974 - 2647
smile...@utk.edu
-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Joan Mi
Our copy of Fireflies shows A.D.V. Films as the US Distributor.
Hope this helps a little.
Tim Markus
Head of Cataloging
The Evergreen State College
Olympia, WA 98505
mark...@evergreen.edu
-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley
Hello,
Does anyone have an idea of who distributes Fantastic Planet (Laloux,
1973) and Grave of the Fireflies (Takahata, 1988)?
Thanks for any help.
Joan Miller
Joan Miller
Head Archivist
Wesleyan Cinema Archives
301 Washington Terrace
Middletown, CT 06457
Phone: (860) 685-3395
FAX: (860) 685-3
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