[Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Brown, Karen E
Dear colleagues: The University at Albany, SUNY, is in the process of weeding VHS materials held in our general collection, all of which was commercially produced. Regarding those titles for which a more current format is not available we will need to obtain copyright clearance before we

Re: [Videolib] Donation of DVDs and Publishers

2014-07-24 Thread Moshiri, Farhad
Thanks Jessica. The publisher does not give any explanation. Their website have multiple pricing and just says Educational/Library and describes it as for classroom use. No mention of the law. Farhad Moshiri, MLS Post-Masters Advanced Study Certificate Audiovisual Music Librarian University

Re: [Videolib] Donation of DVDs and Publishers

2014-07-24 Thread Jessica Rosner
Well I give them credit for that. I understand why the multiple pricing is done but I think the only way it can work is if publisher insists on clear contract which could take the form of a I have read and agreed to these conditions type check out. I just don't think most do that. On Thu, Jul

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Jessica Rosner
Well at the risk of being jumped on VHS does not fit the copyright code definition of an obsolete format so unless you document that every VHS you are weeding is literally in the process of deteriorating not just a pain in the neck to use the law does not let you make digital copies. I have VHS

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Brown, Karen E
Thank you, Jessica. I suppose we can also make a case based on age and use that items in our collection are deteriorating. Our problem is that most of our patrons don’t have a VHS player at home; there are none in our classrooms. The material, as a result, is not being used. Those that are

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Jessica Rosner
the catch 22 is that when institutions make copies of out of print VHS titles it makes it that much harder for rights holder to justify the enormous cost of putting smaller titles out in digital format. In theory libraries say they will be only to glad to upgrade to a legal copy if one is released

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Matt Ball
Karen, Although Howard Besser and Walter Forsberg's work on the Video at Risk project mostly had to do with reformatting deteriorating VHS, there may still be useful information here about how they went about searching for and contacting copyright holders.

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Matt Ball
Just curious about the enormous cost of putting smaller titles out in digital format, how much does it cost to burn a DVD from one's computer? Matt ___ Matt Ball Director, Woodruff Library Pace Academy 966 W. Paces Ferry Rd. Atlanta, GA 30327 mb...@paceacademy.org

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Jessica Rosner
Seriously Matt? Dennis is MUCH better at this. But you have to go back to the original material often 35mm fillm elements do a decent new transfer, box it, promote it etc. The whole point of digital is to get high quality looking material. If one just took some old VHS master and dubbed it , it

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Brown, Karen E
Good point. Stream or download are fine, depending on the terms of use!!! Or did I just open another pickle jar. (: From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:47 PM To:

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Matt Ball
Libraries don't have VCRs anymore. A video that no one can watch might as well not exist. I would rather have a crappy VHS-to-DVD copy than nothing at all. And I'm willing to pay for it. Also, it's just a matter of time before VHS is an official obsolete format and then, as my mom would

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Jessica Rosner
If it is an educational doc with little interest in visuals you might get some people to OK a transfer but it like showing a black and white photocopy of the Mona Lisa in an art house to dub an old VHS to DVD. It is both deeply insulting to the people who made the films and illegal. I would not

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Jessica Rosner
OOPS hid send WAY to early on that last one. VHS players are a pain in the ass but it is financial and convenience concern to dump them. They still work and the law recognizes them as a valid format so until you can't get one as oppossed to dumping the ones you have you have no right to make a

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Susan Albrecht
That’s way too broad of a statement, Matt. We do, indeed, have VCRs here, as well as an RTI machine to continue to service our VHS tapes. We even (gasp!) still have VCRs in several classrooms. A faculty or staff member needing to reserve a room for a screening can even do a search of our

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Kankiewicz, Michael
We have four VHS players in the library, and most of our classrooms are still equipped with them (at least for now). We still have several hundred titles on VHS and many are used regularly. Michael ---

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Matt Ball
Now I remember why I stopped posting to this list. videolib@lists.berkeley.edu writes: OOPS hid send WAY to early on that last one. VHS players are a pain in the ass but it is financial and convenience concern to dump them. They still work and the law recognizes them as a valid format so until

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Meghann Matwichuk
Matt asked: How much does it cost to burn a DVD from one's computer? I'll go ahead and answer that even though it was a rhetorical question. Buying a one-off title from a filmmaker / distributor has costs, even if the 'sticker price' of the disc is minimal. This often involves extensive

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Dennis Doros
Just started to pay attention to this discussion and saw my name bandied about. I once had another distributor who told me he was very proud to spend $3000 to transfer a film to digital. I didn't have the heart to say that I've spent that much on one scene. And when I saw his transfer, the entire

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Susan Albrecht
TWO WEEKS!! Are you ready, Dennis? Is Amy ready? Is your SON ready? Since Princeton starts pretty late, we’re still over 4 weeks away, even with my daughter’s freshman “outdoor adventure” 5-day experience at the start. I am decidedly not ready. Susan Albrecht Library Media Acquisitions

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Susan Albrecht
Dagnab it! Meant that just for Dennis, obviously. It’s been a long, long, long week…. Susan Albrecht Library Media Acquisitions Manager Graduate Fellowship Advisor Wabash College Lilly Library 765-361-6216 765-361-6295 fax albre...@wabash.edumailto:albre...@wabash.edu

Re: [Videolib] Copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Matt Ball
A measured and thoughtful response as usual, Dennis. M- videolib@lists.berkeley.edu writes: Just started to pay attention to this discussion and saw my name bandied about. I once had another distributor who told me he was very proud to spend $3000 to transfer a film to digital. I didn't

[Videolib] copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Maureen Tripp
Dennis Doros, I second that emotion! totally agree that A-V preservation should be part of ALA annual programming--and it would be wonderful if AMIA could help out with expertise. The VideoRoundtable is looking for program proposals for 2015 right now. I hope someone will rise to the challenge!

Re: [Videolib] copyright searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Dennis Doros
Dear Maureen, We has nearly 1000 members across the country and around the world. I believe that our board member Elena Rossi-Snook is having a panel at ALA but I'm not entirely sure. But if the VideoRound Table would like to propose a topic for 2015 and I can find three or four amazing

Re: [Videolib] Copyright Searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Deg Farrelly
I am late to this now lengthy conversation, in which many others have already participated. But permit me to make several statements of fact, not opinion, related to the issue at hand. First and foremost, in response to Karen's original question and subject line. Contrary to what others on

Re: [Videolib] Copyright Searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Jessica Rosner
I don't have time to argue this in detail either (on my way to Cooperstown) but is particularly absurd to claim you can duplicate an allegedly deteriorating work and circulate it i off campus when the law very clearly states it is NOT to go off premise. What does fair use have to do with the

Re: [Videolib] Copyright Searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Matt Ball
Thanks Deg. Also, I confess to speaking hyperbolically (is that a word?) when I said that libraries don’t have VCRs anymore. As I mentioned to Jeff off-line (as I was making sure he hadn’t choked on his water) I should've said Increasingly, libraries have no way to provide access to VHS

Re: [Videolib] Copyright Searches for videotape

2014-07-24 Thread Eric Wheeler
We are engaged in a weeding/removal project at my institution as well. We are purchasing DVD replacement copies of VHS tapes where possible and removing VCRs from classrooms and from the library's equipment collection. Our goal is to remove all VHS/VCR resources from campus by January 2015. At