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2008-12-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
> -Original Message- > From: Rob MacKillop [mailto:luteplay...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:46 AM > To: RALPH MAIER > Cc: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Hi All > >Changing the subject only slightly...what is the earlies

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2008-12-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
, 2008 8:41 PM > To: kalei...@gmail.com > Cc: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Hi All > > Here is one additional point -- the modern guitar has 12 frets to the > body/neck joint. Early 6-course lutes have only 8 tied frets. The > resulting enforced change of

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2008-12-12 Thread Arto Wikla
This is interesting! Why dissonances would become more dissonant as pitch is lowered? Is it an opinion or a physical fact? Speaking as a piano tuner, I can say it's a physical fact on a piano. Much less so on a harpsichord, and undoubtedly much less so on a vihuela also. Piano strings are so

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2008-12-12 Thread Judith Conrad
This is interesting! Why dissonances would become more dissonant as pitch is lowered? Is it an opinion or a physical fact? Speaking as a piano tuner, I can say it's a physical fact on a piano. Much less so on a harpsichord, and undoubtedly much less so on a vihuela also. Piano strings are

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2008-12-12 Thread Rob MacKillop
Ah, OK. Not many minor seconds in the bass register of vihuela pieces, but I get your point. On a piano is just sounds muddy, not more dissonant, to my ears. I don't think playing a guitar in E or G would make much difference. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list informa

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2008-12-12 Thread gary digman
ds more dissonant to me. That's the only explanation I have. Gary - Original Message - From: "Rob MacKillop" To: "Arto Wikla" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:56 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Hi All Sounds an interesting comment to me too, Ga

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2008-12-12 Thread gary digman
riginal Message - From: "Arto Wikla" To: "gary digman" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Hi All gary digman wrote: There may be a reason to be concerned about whether one is tuned in "E", "G" or "A".

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2008-12-12 Thread Rob MacKillop
Sounds an interesting comment to me too, Gary. Please explain. Rob 2008/12/12 Arto Wikla <[1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> gary digman wrote: There may be a reason to be concerned about whether one is tuned in "E", "G" or "A". Dissonances become more dissonant as pitch is l

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2008-12-12 Thread Arto Wikla
gary digman wrote: There may be a reason to be concerned about whether one is tuned in "E", "G" or "A". Dissonances become more dissonant as pitch is lowered. This might noticeably change the texture of the music. This is interesting! Why dissonances would become more dissonant as pitch is lo

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2008-12-12 Thread gary digman
t; To: "Joshua Horn" Cc: "Vihuelalist" Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:47 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Hi All Well - I think most people would agree that there isn't a standard pitch for either the vihuela or the lute and that in any case there are at least two options

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2008-12-12 Thread Rob MacKillop
Changing the subject only slightly...what is the earliest citation or image for a capo? Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2008-12-11 Thread RALPH MAIER
Sorry if this is a double-post. Forgot to hit "reply all". Cheers. Ralph -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2008-12-11 Thread Daniel F Heiman
Here is one additional point -- the modern guitar has 12 frets to the body/neck joint. Early 6-course lutes have only 8 tied frets. The resulting enforced change of the left-hand configuration in the high positions is a fact of life for lutenists, and probably helps most of us to orient ourselves

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2008-12-11 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
won't slight you in the slightest if you prefer to capo as a soloist. Best, Eugene > -Original Message- > From: RALPH MAIER [mailto:rkcma...@shaw.ca] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:29 PM > To: Rob MacKillop > Cc: G. Crona; Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Hi All

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2008-12-11 Thread RALPH MAIER
uspend his disbelief. In other words, the point isn't really that it sounds more lute/vihuela-like but rather that it sounds a bit less guitar-like. My $0.02 worth. Ralph - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:08 pm Subjec

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2008-12-11 Thread Rob MacKillop
I would say keep the capo. One advantage for modern classical guitar programmes is to make your repertoire from different periods sound a little different. There is less resonance but more transparency with a capo, and, yes, it does make some passages easier for the left hand. But th

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2008-12-11 Thread G. Crona
There is one minor point though - shortening the mensur and thereby facilitating difficult stretches... G. - Original Message - From: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I can't see any point in using a capo. You can just play it as it is. Might be different if you are accompanying

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2008-12-11 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:35 AM 12/11/2008, Joshua Horn wrote: >I was under the assumption that putting a capo on the third fret would >place a standard tuned Guitar into Lute or Vihulea "G" tuning. Yes, >solo work. =) My first bit of advice would be to get rid of the capo unless you need to adjust pitch

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2008-12-11 Thread Monica Hall
g a singer. Monica - Original Message - From: "Joshua Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Hi All I was under the assumption that putting a capo on the third fret would place a standard tuned Guitar into

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2008-12-11 Thread Joshua Horn
I was under the assumption that putting a capo on the third fret would place a standard tuned Guitar into Lute or Vihulea "G" tuning. Yes, solo work. =) Josh -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2008-12-09 Thread Edward Martin
Hello, Joshua. Glad to see you are back. I have a question - why put a capo on the third fret? Is it for some ensemble piece so you need to be in a particular pitch, or is it for solo work? ed At 04:08 AM 12/9/2008 -0600, Joshua E. Horn wrote: >--===AVGMAIL-493E4602=== >Con