Colaboratiion feature hint [Re: Plans for Vim 7.4]

2013-05-23 Fir de Conversatie Oliver Rath
Hi list! Am 09.05.2013 05:51, schrieb Bram Moolenaar: [..] 5. add collaborative editing [..] This is a feature that Im looking for a long time. Im not so deep inside that I would be able to write the code for this, but maybe I can give a hint from the Libreoffice-project, which uses this way

Re: Colaboratiion feature hint [Re: Plans for Vim 7.4]

2013-05-23 Fir de Conversatie Charles
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Oliver Rath r...@mglug.de wrote: Hi list! Am 09.05.2013 05:51, schrieb Bram Moolenaar: [..] 5. add collaborative editing [..] This is a feature that Im looking for a long time. Im not so deep inside that I would be able to write the code for this, but

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-23 Fir de Conversatie Thomas Köhler
Hello Bram, hello Ron, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, [...] Besides that, if you are maintaining runtime files, please send me any pending updates. I will not make big changes just before the release, everything needs some time for testing. Let's set a deadline at the end of May.

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-23 Fir de Conversatie Thomas Köhler
Hallo Bram, Thomas Köhler wrote: Attached, you can find a new version of prolog.vim (syntax highlightning for prolog) and koehler.vim (my colorscheme). The former fixes a bug in prologClauseHead higlightning, the later now supports the Underline and Ignore groups. While I'm at it, I also

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-23 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Thomas Köhler wrote: Hello Bram, hello Ron, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, [...] Besides that, if you are maintaining runtime files, please send me any pending updates. I will not make big changes just before the release, everything needs some time for testing. Let's set a

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-22 Fir de Conversatie ZyX
BTW: Is there any upcoming support for c++11 especially indent of c++11 files? Syntax highlighting can be done by external systax files but the indenting could not be modified by users. Really? Check out :h 'indentexpr'. It could be modified, but you will either have to do some hacks

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-21 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Ron Aaron wrote: I know it's late to vote, but some sort of sane 'gdb' integration would be supremely useful. I haven't found any packages for this that don't involve a lot of setup. There are several implementations, including my own Agide. Pick one that is the best and improve it... Most

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-20 Fir de Conversatie Ron Aaron
I know it's late to vote, but some sort of sane 'gdb' integration would be supremely useful. I haven't found any packages for this that don't involve a lot of setup. -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-15 Fir de Conversatie Charles Campbell
Jan Pobrislo wrote: Glib inside gvim, since gtk+ uses glib internally. More precisely glib is that part of gtk+ that does not deal with gui, so there's no gvim without glib. (Unless there's implementation of gvim not based on gtk which I'm unaware of). A gvim can be compiled using motif under

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-14 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Ken Takata wrote: 2013/05/11 Sat 5:25:21 UTC+9 Bram Moolenaar wrote: Ken Takata wrote: 2013/05/10 Fri 10:21:37 UTC+9 mattn wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:55:02 AM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: https://code.google.com/p/vim-soc2008-regexp/wiki/nfa_bugs Andrei (the

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-14 Fir de Conversatie Fanhe Fanhed
I have two patches to submit... I think the IDE features can provide by plugins, I am making an IDE project. 2013/5/14 Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net Ken Takata wrote: 2013/05/11 Sat 5:25:21 UTC+9 Bram Moolenaar wrote: Ken Takata wrote: 2013/05/10 Fri 10:21:37 UTC+9 mattn

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-13 Fir de Conversatie Ken Takata
Hi, 2013/05/11 Sat 5:25:21 UTC+9 Bram Moolenaar wrote: Ken Takata wrote: 2013/05/10 Fri 10:21:37 UTC+9 mattn wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:55:02 AM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: https://code.google.com/p/vim-soc2008-regexp/wiki/nfa_bugs Andrei (the student who worked on

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-12 Fir de Conversatie Jan Pobrislo
On Sat, 11 May 2013 04:45:50 +0200, Tony Mechelynck antoine.mechely...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Add VimL api to hook into the eventloops. The unix poll() eventloop seems simple enough to start with. Is it guaranteed to be available? Think MS-Windows or IBM-mainframe. Nope, neither are

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-12 Fir de Conversatie Jan Pobrislo
On Sat, 11 May 2013 15:44:10 +0200, Xavier de Gaye xdeg...@gmail.com wrote: An alternative would be to allow any python thread to call the vim-python interface through message passing. That indeed is also possible, but for it to work properly you need to create interface for waking the main

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-12 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 12/05/13 21:28, Jan Pobrislo wrote: On Sat, 11 May 2013 04:45:50 +0200, Tony Mechelynck antoine.mechely...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Add VimL api to hook into the eventloops. The unix poll() eventloop seems simple enough to start with. Is it guaranteed to be available? Think MS-Windows or

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-12 Fir de Conversatie James McCoy
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 02:40:20AM +0200, Tony Mechelynck wrote: On 12/05/13 21:28, Jan Pobrislo wrote: Glib inside gvim, since gtk+ uses glib internally. More precisely glib is that part of gtk+ that does not deal with gui, so there's no gvim without glib. (Unless there's implementation of

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-11 Fir de Conversatie Xavier de Gaye
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Jan Pobrislo wrote: I'm quite curious what is meant by IDE-like features. From my experience most of that is covered by plugins already, except for one significant roadblock: inability to communicate with external processes without blocking whole UI. There

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-11 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Dominique Pelle wrote: mattn mattn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:26:40 PM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Taro Muraoka wrote: 2. Include the fast regexp engine patch that has been floating around for a long time. With some clever logic to fall back to the old

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-11 Fir de Conversatie tyru
Hi vimmers! On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tony Mechelynck antoine.mechely...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/05/13 10:54, Jan Pobrislo wrote: On Thu, 09 May 2013 05:51:48 +0200, Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net wrote: The top five of the voting list: http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie h_east
Hi, Bram and list 2013/5/9(Thu) 12:51:48 UTC+9 Bram Moolenaar: Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! In recent years, the resolution of the display

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Linda W
Bram Moolenaar wrote: Not required for Vim itself, but there can be plugins that require it. There has been a interest in a pluggable RE engine like grep has -- Specifically, the perl RE is best in breed by almost independent evaluation -- it even includes python additions. It' also

Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Jan Pobrislo
On Thu, 09 May 2013 05:51:48 +0200, Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net wrote: The top five of the voting list: http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php 1. add IDE features 2. add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script 3. fix all problems, big and small; make Vim more

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Ken Takata
Hi, 2013/05/10 Fri 10:21:37 UTC+9 mattn wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:55:02 AM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: https://code.google.com/p/vim-soc2008-regexp/wiki/nfa_bugs Andrei (the student who worked on this) does mention multi-byte. He says it slows down the execution, thus the

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie lith
I'm sure everybody has their favorite patch that he would like to see included. Maybe one should rather think of the breakindent patch as a basic feature of a modern text editors that fully supports soft word wrap. -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post!

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Andy Spencer wrote: On 2013-05-09 05:51, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! How about the gvim port to GTK 3? I'll see if

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Ken Takata wrote: 2013/05/10 Fri 10:21:37 UTC+9 mattn wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:55:02 AM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: https://code.google.com/p/vim-soc2008-regexp/wiki/nfa_bugs Andrei (the student who worked on this) does mention multi-byte. He says it slows down the

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Dominique Pellé
mattn mattn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:26:40 PM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Taro Muraoka wrote: 2. Include the fast regexp engine patch that has been floating around for a long time. With some clever logic to fall back to the old regexp engine for patterns

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 10/05/13 23:05, Dominique Pellé wrote: mattn mattn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:26:40 PM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Taro Muraoka wrote: 2. Include the fast regexp engine patch that has been floating around for a long time. With some clever logic to fall back to the

Re: Pluggable eventloop, was Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 10/05/13 10:54, Jan Pobrislo wrote: On Thu, 09 May 2013 05:51:48 +0200, Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net wrote: The top five of the voting list: http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php 1. add IDE features 2. add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script 3. fix all

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-10 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
On 09/05/13 05:51, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! [...] Maybe we could decide that Vim 7.3.999 + 1 will be 7.4.000, and make

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie Christian Brabandt
Hi Ron! On Mi, 08 Mai 2013, Ron Aaron wrote: 2. add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script I hope this doesn't mean Python will be *required*. That would be a badness. Pretty sure not. I think the python interpreter will always be optional. regards, Christian --

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie Christian Brabandt
Hi Bram! On Do, 09 Mai 2013, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! The top five of the voting list:

Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie cptstubing
Can you elaborate on the IDE features that you have planned? -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie tux-
Yay - time for a new branch! Thanks, Bram. :) -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie ZyX
1. Include the Python patches that ZyX has created. This improves the Vim API from the Python interface. I just wanted to write an RFC with new interfaces. These are even bigger changes, so it would be bad idea to start writing them without discussion. But these are unlikely to be written

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie Andy Wokula
Am 09.05.2013 05:51, schrieb Bram Moolenaar: Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! Wish: Vim 7.4 becomes a release with all current patches and no new

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie lith
I'd like to see the breakindent patch included. Yes, please! -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Ron Aaron wrote: On Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:51:48 AM UTC+3, Bram Moolenaar wrote: don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! That's very exciting! 2. add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script I hope this doesn't mean

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Yasuhiro Matsumoto wrote: On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:26:40 PM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Taro Muraoka wrote: 2. Include the fast regexp engine patch that has been floating around for a long time. With some clever logic to fall back to the old regexp engine for patterns

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Christian Brabandt wrote: On Do, 09 Mai 2013, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! The top five of the voting list:

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie mattn
On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:55:02 AM UTC+9, Bram Moolenaar wrote: https://code.google.com/p/vim-soc2008-regexp/wiki/nfa_bugs Andrei (the student who worked on this) does mention multi-byte. He says it slows down the execution, thus the multi-byte support should be there. We need to find the

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-09 Fir de Conversatie Andy Spencer
On 2013-05-09 05:51, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! How about the gvim port to GTK 3? I'll see if I can get that working if

Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Hello Vim users, We are now at patch level 7.3.931. In a few weeks we would reach 999. I don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! The top five of the voting list: http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php 1. add IDE features 2. add integration with

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Christian J. Robinson
[Replied only to the Vim Developers' list.] On Thu, 9 May 2013, Bram Moolenaar wrote: it's time for Vim 7.4! [...] 1. Include the Python patches that ZyX has created. This improves the Vim API from the Python interface. I know you cannot possibly be expected to add similar support for

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Taro MURAOKA
2. Include the fast regexp engine patch that has been floating around for a long time. With some clever logic to fall back to the old regexp engine for patterns that might not work with the new one. I want to look into this patch from view point of multibyte characters. Where can I

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Christian J. Robinson wrote: [Replied only to the Vim Developers' list.] On Thu, 9 May 2013, Bram Moolenaar wrote: it's time for Vim 7.4! [...] 1. Include the Python patches that ZyX has created. This improves the Vim API from the Python interface. I know you cannot

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Taro Muraoka wrote: 2. Include the fast regexp engine patch that has been floating around for a long time. With some clever logic to fall back to the old regexp engine for patterns that might not work with the new one. I want to look into this patch from view point of multibyte

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Suresh Govindachar
--- On Wed, 5/8/13, Christian J. Robinson hept...@gmail.com wrote: From: Christian J. Robinson hept...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Plans for Vim 7.4 To: vim_dev@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 9:01 PM [Replied only to the Vim Developers' list.] On Thu, 9 May 2013, Bram

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Christian J. Robinson
On Wed, 8 May 2013, Suresh Govindachar wrote: What are these extras Christian is referring to? Mostly it's just been a case of occasionally seeing a new Python→Vim integration feature added and I have thought, Oh, I wish the Python→Perl interface had that too. Oh well. Among them, I

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Ron Aaron
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:51:48 AM UTC+3, Bram Moolenaar wrote: don't want to find out what happens if we go over that, so it's time for Vim 7.4! That's very exciting! 2. add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script I hope this doesn't mean Python will be *required*.

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie Ron Aaron
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:51:48 AM UTC+3, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Hello Vim users, ... so it's time for Vim 7.4! Wonderful news! 2. add integration with Python instead of inventing more Vim script I hope this doesn't mean Python will be required, that would be a badness. -- -- You

Re: Plans for Vim 7.4

2013-05-08 Fir de Conversatie 陈世用
What about support fuzzy matching? 2013/5/9 Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net Christian J. Robinson wrote: [Replied only to the Vim Developers' list.] On Thu, 9 May 2013, Bram Moolenaar wrote: it's time for Vim 7.4! [...] 1. Include the Python patches that ZyX has